Please help me with my doubts about laptop batteries

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stols001

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I have to agree on getting new batteries as soon as you can, and if you have a backup mod, well use it until you can, even though it doesn't sound like an ideal vape.

Sorry about what happened, you've gotten good advice above, and I'm glad you came here to ask the question. Sometimes stuff happens, and it's annoying, but better safe than sorry....

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I'm not saying that everyone should do it. But it is perfectly possible. As long as it wasn't rapidly discharged and it was working fine in the first place. It's like jump starting a car.

I am aware that it is possible. But even your original posting of it seems to suggest you know that it isn't safe. Not safe = not a good idea.

a Lithium battery discharged much below 3 volt is going to be damaged. It doesn't matter that it wasn't a fast discharge or slow discharge. Resurrecting it and using it to vape is not a good idea as it may not be safe to do. The lithium chargers for the most part won't do it as they have a safety built in too.
 

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I am aware that it is possible. But even your original posting of it seems to suggest you know that it isn't safe. Not safe = not a good idea.

a Lithium battery discharged much below 3 volt is going to be damaged. It doesn't matter that it wasn't a fast discharge or slow discharge. Resurrecting it and using it to vape is not a good idea as it may not be safe to do. The lithium chargers for the most part won't do it as they have a safety built in too.

He is also not taking into consideration the reverse battery issue. While the alien purportedly has reverse battery polarity protection HOWEVER, that doesn't apply when the device is hooked up to micro USB with batteries placed backwards.

What we know is that something happened to those batteries, there was much alcohol involved, so whether or not there was no protection for those batteries during this time is anyone's guess. With that being the case, I would think there is more danger in making the attempt to resurrect those batteries. Its not like they just got a little too low, something happened - and likely has to do with the fact those batteries were in backwards and someone tried to charge them through the usb and there was no reverse battery protections kicked in at that time per messed up features.
 

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My new batteries arrived today, LG INR something something, out of the box new, and I have my Alien back and haven't 'become a statistic' :) Thanks everyone for the informative and thoughtful info, it helps. You probably get bored with repeating yourselves, but I'm here to tell you, you do make a difference, so thank you for taking the time.
 

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Unfortunately, I have new issues, if you could call them that. Is it true that these batteries don't 'hold memory' and that it's okay to charge them to less than 100% multiple times over?

Yes, it's true. You're thinking old chemistry. Recharge them as often as you please. I often top off my batteries to keep them fully charged (when in use)--I don't like them to go too low. And charging process is fast.

When not in use, keep them at ~50% charge.

That said, I usually charge new batteries to a full charge when I first get them. Just in case. After that, makes no difference.

ETA: This is mandatory reading: Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
 
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Hey Medea, I'm glad to hear that you got some new batteries and are up and going again! ( well, at least for the most part) :rolleyes: I don't claim to be an expert on batteries but I try to cycle mine through completly when ever I can; You know, charge them fully and discharge them to about 20% or so. I think that battery technology has improved greatly in recent years, but I'm not sure what the recomended min./max is for continued use as far as the charging goes. Someone will surely be by soon to help you with that. Happy Vaping...
 

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Unfortunately, I have new issues, if you could call them that. Is it true that these batteries don't 'hold memory' and that it's okay to charge them to less than 100% multiple times over?

It's actually a good thing I believe. Regulated mods tend to kick batteries out when they get to around 3.2. I read somewhere that charging batteries when they get down to around 3.4 or higher increases the overall working lifetime of a battery. You get some smaller lifetime benefits by stopping the charge before they get all the way up to 4.2 as well.

The benefits aren't huge, and the downside is you have change batteries more often. I don't bother. But it does suggest doing that isn't bad for the batteries.

I don't remember where I saw this stuff, you should be able to find it if you check Mooch's blogs or read in the Battery section of the forum.

You were asking earlier about recovering drained batteries. I once had a Sigelei mod that occasionally misbehaved and drained batteries down to 2.2 or 2.4. I used to recharge them. Some chargers even have a recovery mode. But I read that 2.8 was the level where you can be confident there is no damage to the battery so I wouldn't go below 2.8 now.
 
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