Please help me with my nemesis!!!

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

First off, I'm going to need everyone reading this to please excuse my language, because I have had it up to here with this thing.

I traded my maraxus for this nemesis clone. I have no idea which clone it is, and that's part of my problem.
I'm using an IGO-W, and Sony vtc4's.

here's the deal.
When I assemble this thing using an 18650, and the firing pin in the switch is screwed all the way down, there is SO much battery rattle in this thing. It's insane.

Okay, no problem, I'll just adjust the pin in the switch longer and that'll solve the problem.

WRONG
Because when I unscrew the pin to the point that it will FINALLY make ....ing contact with the battery, the inner brass piece is so far away from the actual button, that that small metal grain-o-....ing-rice guide pin is no longer long enough to connect the two pieces of the switch, and falls out.
I've combed the forums looking for the answer.
I keep hearing to take out the beauty ring and that should solve it, the ring that is in the middle of my mod in this picture.

Problem is, that suggestion was accompanied by this picture

On this mod, the beauty ring is in the top.
When I take this beauty ring out of mine, the two pieces don't thread together.
I'm about to lose my mind.
Please, please help me.
-Desmond

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[Blackboar]

You mentioned the firing pin. But did you extend the contact pin up top? The one that adjusts the 510 connection? If you already did that and it doesn't work, you could try to order the extended contact pins from Fat Daddy Vapes. I got them for a Chi You clone and they work great.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

When I lengthen the top pin, it no longer makes contact with either my Igo or my pt2 rebuild.
I don't want to have to spend any more money on something that's supposed to work properly in the first place.

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[Froth]

in 18650 mode you do not need the beauty ring in the nemesis at all, it should be removed entirely. Some clones have threading issues which do not allow the tubes to screw together without the beauty ring, I have run into that issue with Hcigar clones more than once. I have had two different issues, one where the threads are too small and don't catch in the tube or they are kind of gunked up and feel too large to go together, I had to force them together and work out the crappy threading to get it to work.

If the top tube does not thread into the switch tube without the beauty ring then the mod is not going to work, basically.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Lose the beauty ring, problem solved.

Add a fuse and run high ohm builds. Have extra fuses on hand.

If you really like the beauty/fuse ring, and don't want to run a fuse, start looking for a longer screw to replace the top positive post.

Maurice

 

[Wicked & Coiled]

The contact upgrades from FatDaddyVapes will most likely solve your rattle issue. The positive pin he sells is 4x thicker than the stock. (His Neo magnets are awesome as well). FWIW, the FDV upgrade kit saved my Nemi-clone from the proverbial trash heap.

AFAIK, all Nemis should support 18650+Kick. You seem to be missing the "Kick-Sleeve"/18490 extension-tube, and it's accompanying beauty ring?

 

[Wicked & Coiled]

Lose the beauty ring, problem solved.

Add a fuse and run high ohm builds. Have extra fuses on hand.

If you really like the beauty/fuse ring, and don't want to run a fuse, start looking for a longer screw to replace the top positive post.

Maurice

Um, the OP says it won't thread without the beauty ring.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

It works, I just had to rig a much longer rice pin out of a 1/16" drill bit to get it working. This thing is a pain in my ...

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[me5647]

I have used several small NdFeB magnets (like these: 10mm x 2mm Super Strong Round Magnets - Silver (20 PCS) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme I've got them all over my fridge) as a spacer in mods that were too long and couldn't be adjusted to fit the battery. Just stuck them to the top of the battery.

I think there was a post somewhere saying that it wasn't recommended to do this. I can't find it now, and as long as you don't stick them to the bottom of the battery I don't see any reason why it would be a problem. Possibly wouldn't be a good idea for subohm.

 

[Singaw]

I see you have already doctored up a solution but a friend brought over a nemesis clone once with the same problem. It was the following video that saved the day. I hope it helps you as well.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

Lose the beauty ring, problem solved.

Add a fuse and run high ohm builds. Have extra fuses on hand.

If you really like the beauty/fuse ring, and don't want to run a fuse, start looking for a longer screw to replace the top positive post.

Maurice

Never again will I run any build over .5 ohms, and I surely wouldn't use a fuse that'll offer me what, 15 watts? Can't do it

I see you have already doctored up a solution but a friend brought over a nemesis clone once with the same problem. It was the following video that saved the day. I hope it helps you as well.

Yeah that's the first video I came upon, and seeing as the only other tube I got was the kick ring, I guess I'm just going to have to get myself a longer top screw. I was gonna get the magnet upgrade anyway, so .... it.


Thank you to everyone for your help!
Y'all are the best!
-Desmond


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[crxess]

Remove upper tube - screw cap into beauty ring
remove cap and beauty ring
screw cap into lower tube

IF the top screws into both and the top of the upper tube - the tubes WILL screw together. It might not be simple, but they will.
Before trying again, clean threading well with a tooth brush.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

Remove upper tube - screw cap into beauty ring
remove cap and beauty ring
screw cap into lower tube

IF the top screws into both and the top of the upper tube - the tubes WILL screw together. It might not be simple, but they will.
Before trying again, clean threading well with a tooth brush.

This makes complete sense, but for some reason, doesn't work. It's like there are two different types of threading on the beauty ring. I've cleaned the hell out of all the threads, and they don't want to connect on the two body tubes without the beauty ring.

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[crxess]

This makes complete sense, but for some reason, doesn't work. It's like there are two different types of threading on the beauty ring. I've cleaned the hell out of all the threads, and they don't want to connect on the two body tubes without the beauty ring.

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If the Cap threads into the Beauty ring and the Cap screws into the Main tube, the threading is the same. It may be tighter between the 2 tubes(deeper cuts) but not different. If you can get it to start and just work back/forth(on/off) a little at a time they will eventually mate up.

I understand the problem
I had the problem
I won

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

If the Cap threads into the Beauty ring and the Cap screws into the Main tube, the threading is the same. It may be tighter between the 2 tubes(deeper cuts) but not different. If you can get it to start and just work back/forth(on/off) a little at a time they will eventually mate up.

The cap doesn't thread into the main tube without the beauty ring. It does the same as if I tried to thread the two body tubes without the beauty ring

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[TheColdHandedVG]

Take off that middle ring (the really small one) and that will fix the problem. The only time it would make sense to use it (if you must) would be with a button top battery and the throw decreases to it's limit. Just take it off though....

EDIT: Just realized that won't work on yours. Mine is a clone from Tobeco so I guess it is a little different. Did you try messing around with the orientation of every tube? The only thing on mine that must remain where it is would be the bottom tube that the switch screws into; other than that everything is interchangeable on mine. If that doesn't work you will have to use a button top battery if you aren't already.

 

[brianwert93]

get rid of the beauty ring.

 

[Froth]

If the Cap threads into the Beauty ring and the Cap screws into the Main tube, the threading is the same. It may be tighter between the 2 tubes(deeper cuts) but not different. If you can get it to start and just work back/forth(on/off) a little at a time they will eventually mate up.

I understand the problem
I had the problem
I won

I have done exactly this with two Hcigar Nemesis, worked well. Was a little cautious at first but once I got the first two threads to catch I was able to force them back and forth and finally together. It seems to be a problem more than just a few people experience.

 

[DesmondTheMoonbear]

After reading about the first two threads catching, I guess I just need to really force it.
But now I need to find a good way to grip the tubes. Because I just sliced the ever loving .... out of my hand on the edge of the tube. It's going to require a whole lot of force to thread it.

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[mariner1911]

After reading about the first two threads catching, I guess I just need to really force it.
But now I need to find a good way to grip the tubes. Because I just sliced the ever loving .... out of my hand on the edge of the tube. It's going to require a whole lot of force to thread it.

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silicone pot holders. I use the square kind