Please help with final Purchase for 510 :)

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EtherMagic

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OK, Im on my last order before the Judge lays down his decision, and want to make the best possible decision on my last order, and it's VERY simple.

I am going to get the Titan 510 from the, I have found a GREAT package deal going on.

OK, I have about $250 to spend on supplies, and another $100 for e-liquid (I already have my e-liquid figured out).

OK, here we gooooo...

I am either getting 10 attys and 10 batteries, or 15 atty's and 5 batteries.

They have package deals fro "5 atty's for $54.99" and "5 batteries for $54.99".

I'm going straight for the package deals, I'm not buying 1 at a time, meaning just 1 battery here, 1 atty there, to expensive.

So, should I get 3 packages of the "5 attys", and then just 1 package of the 5 batteries, or should I get 10 atty's and 10 batteries???

I just lost a battery with my M402 from e-liquid gumming it up, I don't want this to happen again which is why I am getting the 510.

The point here which I am basing my decision on is this: Which will last longer , the atty's or the batteries for the 510? Will 5 batteries last long enough for me to go through 15 atty's, or will it not be enough?

So, which should I get, more atty's (15) and less batteries (5), or equal them out and get 10 batteries and 10 attys?

This is my last chance to stock-up, PLEASE HELP as I never owned a 510!!!


Thanks!!!!


Paul
 
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I'm fairly new to this, so this might be incorrect, but I don't think there is a solid answer. You see people report that their atty has lasted them for 3 months so far, and you see others who complain about their atty dying in 2 weeks.

Batteries are pretty much the same way.

I'm sure there are people that can give you their own personal experience, but I think it's going to be different for everybody...depending how well you take care of your atomizers, how often you charge your batteries, etc...
 

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I am pretty new too, but I would get fewer batteries and get a USB passthrough and a PCC.

I really don't think getting atty's and batteries will be that challenging no matter what the judge says if you are buying small quantities. Might be tough on the US suppliers, but getting 5 penlight batteries through should not be that tough.

The juice might be much more difficult...8-o

Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth...
 

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Although I'm a firm believer in a large atty stock, I would suggest the order with more batteries. The 510 is a great little unit, but battery life is a slight bit shorter than some others. If you want more attys, and less batts, I would suggest getting a PCC also, to keep your batts charged.

The 510 is well worth it though.
 

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Ok if you are getting the 510 manual, the batteries are sealed so not to worry about juice gumming up the works. I would go with attys as they can be quite tempermental, regardless of brand from all I've read. (Knock on wood my very first are still working with my 510). Adding a pass through would not be a bad idea.

As the other poster said, I think juices are also going to be a bigger issue than getting batts and such unless the FDA puts the kibosh on the devices themselves. That being said, even now, smaller orders are more likely to fly under the radar through customs than larger ones.

HTH
 

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One heck of a good question :) Right now this is what I am doing:

1) A PCC holding one GOOD atomizer, two cartridges and and one battery that I alternate with the battery I am using.

2) Three additional spare batteries.

3) Two spare cartridges not including the one I am using, nor the two in the PCC. That makes a total of five cartridges.

4) All cartridges pre-loaded with DRY tea bag linings used as filters. I'm filling the cartridges directly from the bottle I was previously using just for topoffs. This is what I have found so far to simplify prefills and topoffs, because juice flows so easily into the tea bag linings.

5) Enough juice to last six months. At the high rate I use juice, partially because of the tea bags, that should be 3-5 ml per day. But I haven't had a lot of experience with the tea bags yet.

6) A Kensington four-port AC outlet to USB charger, along with three 510 USB charging cables and the USB cable that comes with the PCC. Of course you could get by with less than this, depending on how fast you want your batteries to be charged.

7) A total of ten atomizers (most of which I can count on to be good) so I can withstand their failure over six months.

8) A three month supply of 0 mg juice so if the ecig ban happens and is enforcable, I can try a slow withdrawal from nicotine with the intent to quit smoking.

People have recommended that I get a USB passthrough for the 510 along with a USB-to-cigarette-lighter adapter, where I can vape in my car without waiting for a battery to charge. I didn't take this advice and ended up camping in the rough, running out of batteries and going back to analog cigarettes. I really want this setup now, though like you, I'm waiting to make any more significant investments, and resigning myself to to analogs when a situation like this occurs again.

Also, if you have yet to try different strengths of nicotine, my advice is to buy 18 mg.

Of course, all of this all depends on how .... you want to be about the situation :)

How this helps,
:) Dave
 

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Ok if you are getting the 510 manual, the batteries are sealed so not to worry about juice gumming up the works. I would go with attys as they can be quite tempermental, regardless of brand from all I've read. (Knock on wood my very first are still working with my 510). Adding a pass through would not be a bad idea.

As the other poster said, I think juices are also going to be a bigger issue than getting batts and such unless the FDA puts the kibosh on the devices themselves. That being said, even now, smaller orders are more likely to fly under the radar through customs than larger ones.

HTH



Thank you all for your responses! :)


E-liquid for me is no problem, The guy I get mine from has a stock pile for years upon year and told me not to worry if FDA shuts his site down. I have his personal cell # and all info needed to order as much as i want :)

OK, I will get a PCC also. I'm thinking of just expanding my money and getting 15 attys and 10 batteries. I really didn't want to spend this much, but what the he11, as long as I'm good for a year and a half money don't mean a thing.

As someone posted here that it's up in the air which will last longer, atty's or batteries, thats my main problem. I been vaping for 3 weeks and had no problem with my attys, I already lost a battery!

I won't have the money in my paypal until next week, so this gives me time to think :)

Any more responses would help :)

EDIT: Dave, I didnt see your post, will read now! :)


THANKS :D
 
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Dave and OP, I always recommend you buy the highest nic content your preferred supplier offers as you can cut that down to your desired level much cheaper than you can buy more juice.

You buy a 36mg 10ml bottle of liquid, you can cut that in half with more PG or flavoring, and then have 20ml of 18mg juice at a significantly cheaper price.
 

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Dave and OP, I always recommend you buy the highest nic content your preferred supplier offers as you can cut that down to your desired level much cheaper than you can buy more juice.

You buy a 36mg 10ml bottle of liquid, you can cut that in half with more PG or flavoring, and then have 20ml of 18mg juice at a significantly cheaper price.

Good idea...I still have some juice to order...I'l take your advice.

And a little more of my own: Given your limited budget, you should probably skip the tea bags and go with replacing the filler with "walmart" polyfill. And remember the big cost the juice, pretty much however you slice it.

Dave
 

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What is the magic date the judge is supposed to be making his decision? Also has anyone been having problems getting personal shipments in from China? I noticed it's quite a bit cheaper, expecially if you are going to order more than just a couple of things.. Like 20 attys @ $5 kind of thing.

There have been no reported problems on ordering from China as far as I know. I had 2 orders returned to the supplier from Chinese Customs. Ruyan just reshipped both orders under a different tracking number, and I received them in 8 days instead of 5 or 6. They all flew through US Customs.
 

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how small is small, though? 5? 10?

I was thinking maybe 20 attys and 10 batteries. I'm not sure but thinking of switching to the 510 from an M series. If that's the case I might get a couple of starter kits and blank carts too. I'm totally new to this whole thing as well, as in not even a week in. I will severly pout if it gets taken away from me already.
 

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I was thinking maybe 20 attys and 10 batteries. I'm not sure but thinking of switching to the 510 from an M series. If that's the case I might get a couple of starter kits and blank carts too. I'm totally new to this whole thing as well, as in not even a week in. I will severly pout if it gets taken away from me already.

You'll love the 510, but I suggest you keep the 401 for a back-up. Some day, you may run into a problem, and you'll be thankful that old 401 is hidden away in a drawer somewhere. Sort of like the spare tire in your car.
 

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You'll love the 510, but I suggest you keep the 401 for a back-up. Some day, you may run into a problem, and you'll be thankful that old 401 is hidden away in a drawer somewhere. Sort of like the spare tire in your car.

Speaking of problems with the 510, has there been a lot???

And what is the main problem that been happening with it?

I spoke with Tony from innovapers and he said he gets some bad batches and complaints with the 510, but didn't say what problems where occurring.

Although I've only been vaping for 3 and a half weeks, the only problem with my m402 was the battery getting gummed-up, and also the batteries seem to be charging faster by the day, meaning I'm not getting as much time with them as say the first couple weeks.


Thanks :)
 
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Speaking of problems with the 510, has there been a lot???

And what is the main problem that been happening with it?

I spoke with Tony from innovapers and he said he gets some bad batches and complaints with the 510, but didn't say what problems where occurring.

Although I've only been vaping for 3 and a half weeks, the only problem with my m402 was the battery getting gummed-up, and also the batteries seem to be charging faster by the day, meaning I'm not getting as much time with them as say the first couple weeks.


Thanks :)

I use the 510 with manual battery simply because when I expect a good vape, I'm confident I'll get one. And since the cost of juice has been my biggest expense so far, I feel the rest of the issues are really just stuff to talk about :)

As far as attys, my experience so far is that filler that gets the juice flowing well and a fresh battery solves a lot of my "atty problems."

I am just speaking about un-modified parts. I've not made any mods. If I weren't so lazy, I suppose I would try making mods to a better-looking PV than the 510 :)

Dave
 

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That was somewhat misleading. Innovapor bough non-authentic equipment, and thus the 510 parts they were selling were not compatible with the authentic Joye 510 parts and accessories their customers already had.

The problem was theirs, and not some wide-spread problem with all 510s.

I have been loving my 510 since the day it was delivered to me. It was not purchased from Innovapor.
 

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Speaking of problems with the 510, has there been a lot???

And what is the main problem that been happening with it?

I spoke with Tony from innovapers and he said he gets some bad batches and complaints with the 510, but didn't say what problems where occurring.

Although I've only been vaping for 3 and a half weeks, the only problem with my m402 was the battery getting gummed-up, and also the batteries seem to be charging faster by the day, meaning I'm not getting as much time with them as say the first couple weeks.


Thanks :)

I don't see any more problems with the 510, than with anything else. It's an electronic gadget, and needs care & maintenance. There is a learning curve to vaping, and a lot of the problems are from misunderstanding. You get better at it as time goes by.

My point was in fact that since its basically a piece of electronic equipment, unexpected things can happen. If you happen to have a stroke of bad luck, or run out of something, that back-up in the drawer can keep you from buying a pack of stinkies, while you get more parts, supplies, or correct your problem. If you never have to use it? No problem. Just consider it insurance.
 
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