There are numbers of kits and juices. Not everyone's the same. We all have different needs. I started out last year with a Joye 510 and thinking that Salem e-juice would be close. NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!! Juice never tastes like tobacco. I did order another menthol juice and that was better. Over a year later, I still use a Joye 510 with two different types of menthol juice. I wanted to cut down my tobacco habit, and wound up giving up tobacco altogether. Looking back on it, it wasn't a walk in the park as I had 42 years of habit to put behind me, however, it was miraculous as I never thought I could do this, Praise God!