Frosting, it is just for recognition, but who knows what will happen with that recognition. But I seriously doubt the the Obama administration will oppose a tax bill for tabbacco alternatives.. He's practically a commy. So I here ya and writing congress Is a good idea.
Please sign this petition to keep e-cigs free of insane restrictions and taxes! WE NEED MORE SIGS!
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Morgy, Its a sneaky bill. Its not out in the open "Hey this can tax the hell out of e-ciggs" There's a clause in the bill that determines anything tobacco related could be taxed. Since it's sugarcoated as a cigarette tax bill its concerning. Rare have cigarette taxes not passed. Hopefully it's opposed enough that the bill doesn't get any farther in the process! 
I'm sorry, but WTH guys? This petition is plainly *NOT* a "petition to keep e-cigs free of insane restrictions and taxes!" A petition is a call upon a government to take action. For what action are we calling? "Recognize" can mean anything from
provide massive federal funding for the promotion and subsidization of
tolaunch a full federal investigation under the jurisdiction of the FDA
Also, how is the popvox bill being interpreted to be related to PVs? "The Saving Lives by Lowering tobacco Use Act" redefines cigarette to include:
Discrete single-use unit. The term 'discrete single-use unit' means any product containing tobacco that
(A) is intended or expected to be consumed without being combusted; and
(B) is in the form of a lozenge, tablet, pill, pouch, dissolvable strip, or other discrete single-use or single-dose unit.
(B) is in the form of a lozenge, tablet, pill, pouch, dissolvable strip, or other discrete single-use or single-dose unit.
Single use or single dose unit could be interpreted as such. It is yes, hard to know exactly how it will be.
Also, I found this which I was trying to earlier. Since I am unable to copy and paste from the bill itself, I will try to make this as accurate as possible.
(i) OTHER TOBACCO PRODUCTS : Any other product not otherwise described in this section and has been determined a Tobacco product by the FDA though its authorities under the Family Smoking Prevention and Control Act shall be taxed at a level equivalent to the tax rate of cigarettes on an estimated per use basis by the Secretary.
Nicotine is considered a tobacco product. This is where we may run into an issue with this bill if its able to keep moving. Even the CASAA is opposing it.
Also, I found this which I was trying to earlier. Since I am unable to copy and paste from the bill itself, I will try to make this as accurate as possible.
(i) OTHER TOBACCO PRODUCTS : Any other product not otherwise described in this section and has been determined a Tobacco product by the FDA though its authorities under the Family Smoking Prevention and Control Act shall be taxed at a level equivalent to the tax rate of cigarettes on an estimated per use basis by the Secretary.
Nicotine is considered a tobacco product. This is where we may run into an issue with this bill if its able to keep moving. Even the CASAA is opposing it.
Yeah, and that is rather stupid; increasing the tax on all smoking cessation products as a means to reduce tobacco use. I've long been of the opinion that it's less about reducing use as raising revenue anyhow.
Bingo senor. I don't like it anymore then you do. Hopefully, the bill goes no where with so many passionately speaking against. But if it doesn't..... I suppose I'll be stocking up on nic before it gets enforced and going mad scientist DIY. Anybody have an extra lab-coat?
People. I'm just trying to help here, I'm not a political or legal genius and I did not start this post to ignite a debate, I did start it to HELP ALL VAPERS!
So please, sign the petition, whatever the hell it does, I've been led to believe it's good for us. And do the POPVOX thing too apparently. Sorry I'm too busy vaping to know EXACTLY what does what but if I can pass something on and post something that will help vapers I'm going to do it, pardon me if I didn't get the details EXACTLY right I just hope it HELPS! All I know is if we don't reach 5000 sigs in time it will be much more difficult for our cause.
Peace, love, and dense clouds of vapor.
So please, sign the petition, whatever the hell it does, I've been led to believe it's good for us. And do the POPVOX thing too apparently. Sorry I'm too busy vaping to know EXACTLY what does what but if I can pass something on and post something that will help vapers I'm going to do it, pardon me if I didn't get the details EXACTLY right I just hope it HELPS! All I know is if we don't reach 5000 sigs in time it will be much more difficult for our cause.
Peace, love, and dense clouds of vapor.
Ok, I signed the popvox one in opposion with the following comment:
erich said:
Awesome!
Glad you took the time to do it. Hope others will consider doing so too if they havn't already..... & with that...Bumpity Bump
16 days to gather 1600 sigs.
Dunno about you guys, but I've been recruiting family members and posted this link on the FaceBook. Just a thought
Dunno about you guys, but I've been recruiting family members and posted this link on the FaceBook. Just a thought
Keep them coming! We been pushing on Facebook, Twitter, here on ECF!! Friends, family... we need all the siggys we can gather Would love to see that 5K mark just CRUSHED!!!
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Would love to see that 5K mark just CRUSHED!!!https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitio...nd-support-job-creation-new-industry/57vtB0QK
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3,480 - Keep plugging away!!
3,480 - Keep plugging away!!
Bumpity bump! Thank you all so much for doing your part! However, we're not quite there yet. Please spread the word, keep signing, and keep bumping! VAPE ON!!!
VAPE ON!!!
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