Plum WTA - Easy method

[slopes]

I have been working on an easy way to make WTA juice to mix down with PG or VG.

What I did:
1. I heated up 12.5g tobacco with water and a pinch of sodium carbonate. The solution was very runny when mixed together.

2. I let it sit for a few hours and then strained off the juice through a cloth. I heat-reduced it to the consistency of a thin cream.

3. I placed the fresh plum in a tall, narrow drinking glass and tipped in the juice to just submerge the plum. I sealed the glass with cling-film and set it aside for a week (gently agitating daily).

4. I discarded the juice. Wearing gloves, I cut the plum into small pieces and pulped them through a garlic press. Then I mashed the pulp down with a fork and pressed out the juice through a cloth.

5. I heat reduced the juice to the consistency of VG liquid and made a 50/50 mix of VG and juice.

What I found:
The tobacco alkaloids had passed into the plum by osmosis. The undesirable contents of the tobacco/water mixture remained in the original juice. The end result vaped well, was relaxing and had a slight heady feel. Food tasted much better.

 

[Nova Sphere]

Wow, Good going! Sounds easy enough, but a lot of work, how much juice did this yield for you?

 

[Kurt]

"What I found:
The tobacco alkaloids had passed into the plum by osmosis. The undesirable contents of the tobacco/water mixture remained in the original juice. The end result vaped well, was relaxing and had a slight heady feel. Food tasted much better. "

How do you know this selective osmosis took place? Not saying it didn't, but unless you run fairly detailed and expensive tests, I don't see how you can claim this. Nor do I see how it could have happened in the first place.

Adding carbonate will ensure the nic and alks are in free-base form, which would be less soluble in water, not more. Acid, like citric, would make the alks into water-soluble salts.

Letting a fruit sit in this liquid for a week will invite fermentation and growth of molds, as well as other bacteria. Then mashing the fruit up would give a liquid high in large biomolecules and sugars, and filtering it will not really change that a lot. Not something I want to drip onto an atty. Nor would the juice be something that will keep well.

Kudos for carrying through such a time-intensive procedure. Not trying to be harsh, but I don't think this is the best idea, and I highly doubt you have isolated WTA.

 

[slopes]

Kurt - I think the osmotic function of fruit skin is well-established. I read on another forum somewhere how Soviet soldiers would leave potatoes in tank break fluid which soaked up all the alcohol leaving the nasties behind. I chose a plum for my experiment because it has a fairly large skin surface area and a relatively small amount of soft flesh. You are right, it isn't possible for me to be sure the process happened as desired... but, after a week, the mashed flesh had browned slightly (in comparison to a control plum) and had a deep, pungent smell of tobacco/nicotine - and there was a definite effect from vaping it. Unfortunately, like the kitchen method, the juice eventually clogged up my atties. The mix spent half the time in the fridge and there was no sight of mold/fermentation etc.

Thanks for the info on using acid in the mix... I didn't use much carbonate, but may try it again with citric acid.