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Hasegawa

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I have an Eleaf iStick Pico with a Melo III atomiser. The kit has 0.3 and 0.5 coil heads.

The first one I used was the 0.3, and when it was time to change, I did immediately; however, I noticed that I never experienced a dry hit with the 0.3, but currently experiencing it with the 0.5.

Am I experiencing a dry hit because I never used mentholated e-liquid with the 0.3? Right now I am using a mentholated e-liquid with the 0.5 coil head.

I rarely go beyond 30 watts. The max is 40. Both my mentholated and non mentholated e-liquid are 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Is it advisable I poke holes on the coil head?

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Reasons for getting dry hits comes from ejuice not wicking fast enough, not lack of air flow and not the flavoring itself. Is it a straight type of menthol or do you have other flavoring mixed with it? If straight menthol, add a drop or two of distilled water into the ejuice, this will thin it a little and help the juice flow.
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Reasons for getting dry hits comes from ejuice not wicking fast enough, not lack of air flow and not the flavoring itself. Is it a straight type of menthol or do you have other flavoring mixed with it? If straight menthol, add a drop or two of distilled water into the ejuice, this will thin it a little and help the juice flow.
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I am not sure what straight menthol is, but if you remember, it is the mentholated root beer float which I mixed with a milk non mentholated one (both 50/50 3 mg nicotine)

If I dilute it with distilled water, does it have any effect on the nicotine content or the taste?

I am wondering because with the 0.3 coil head, I never encountered such issue despite using the same PG/VG ratio. Thank you!
 

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Hello

I have an Eleaf iStick Pico with a Melo III atomiser. The kit has 0.3 and 0.5 coil heads.

The first one I used was the 0.3, and when it was time to change, I did immediately; however, I noticed that I never experienced a dry hit with the 0.3, but currently experiencing it with the 0.5.

Am I experiencing a dry hit because I never used mentholated e-liquid with the 0.3? Right now I am using a mentholated e-liquid with the 0.5 coil head.

I rarely go beyond 30 watts. The max is 40. Both my mentholated and non mentholated e-liquid are 50/50 PG/VG ratio. Is it advisable I poke holes on the coil head?

Thank you,
Hasegawa

at a 50/50 mix, :/ hmmm, would be hard to say why it is not wicking properly. Does the wicking look fully saturated if you take the coil out. If you were at a 30PG/70VG you might gain benefit, but a 50/50, poking holes in the wicking will most likely flood the coil. Might be the menthol is crystalizing or the cream you talked about in your lower post, creams/milks are notorious for coil carbonizing and gunking. Being a rootbeer flavor as well, maybe to many sweeteners.
 

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at a 50/50 mix, :/ hmmm, would be hard to say why it is not wicking properly. Does the wicking look fully saturated if you take the coil out. If you were at a 30PG/70VG you might gain benefit, but a 50/50, poking holes in the wicking will most likely flood the coil. Might be the menthol is crystalizing or the cream you talked about in your lower post, creams/milks are notorious for coil carbonizing and gunking. Being a rootbeer flavor as well, maybe to many sweeteners.

I was using the 0.3 coil head with the milk flavour for about 2 weeks without any problem, but this is the first time I am using a mentholated one (or with Koolada). Yes, you are correct it is very sweet. Would poking even tiny holes be very bad?
 

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I was using the 0.3 coil head with the milk flavour for about 2 weeks without any problem, but this is the first time I am using a mentholated one (or with Koolada). Yes, you are correct it is very sweet. Would poking even tiny holes be very bad?

On a 50/50 blend, in most instances yes, poking holes in the wicking is a bad idea due to how thin a 50/50 is. I'd have to see the 0.5coil head, it could be the wicking is to tight which is causing wicking issues, then poking hole in it might help, but general rule of thumb is no to poking holes in the wicking on a less than 70VG liquid. Also have to remember, on a general rule, a 0.3ohm coil will need more power than a 0.5ohm coil will, so you may be running just slightly over what that 0.5ohm coil can handle with that particular flavor.
 

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I am not sure what straight menthol is, but if you remember, it is the mentholated root beer float which I mixed with a milk non mentholated one (both 50/50 3 mg nicotine)

If I dilute it with distilled water, does it have any effect on the nicotine content or the taste?

I am wondering because with the 0.3 coil head, I never encountered such issue despite using the same PG/VG ratio. Thank you!
Sorry I did not remember until you just said something. What happened to add a little vg to the mix? Wondering why you started a new thread when you already had one on this subject? Plus your beginning post does not mention root beer and ice cream, just menthol.
 

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On a 50/50 blend, in most instances yes, poking holes in the wicking is a bad idea due to how thin a 50/50 is. I'd have to see the 0.5coil head, it could be the wicking is to tight which is causing wicking issues, then poking hole in it might help, but general rule of thumb is no to poking holes in the wicking on a less than 70VG liquid. Also have to remember, on a general rule, a 0.3ohm coil will need more power than a 0.5ohm coil will, so you may be running just slightly over what that 0.5ohm coil can handle with that particular flavor.

The way I understand it is I may need to lower down the wattage because the 0.5 coil head requires less power? When I was using the 0.3 coil head, I was at 30 watts (40 watts max but rarely).
 

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Is it advisable I poke holes on the coil head?

No. :D

Is it just that one .5Ω coil? Or several? Sometimes you get a bad coil--QC problems. If your coil is well primed (fully saturated), seated correctly, and recommended wattage used--it shouldn't be happening. You may try thinning your juice out a bit with distilled water, as recommended above, but if the same juice worked well with the .3Ω coil, that is certainly not the problem.
 

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Sorry I did not remember until you just said something. What happened to add a little vg to the mix? Wondering why you started a new thread when you already had one on this subject? Plus your beginning post does not mention root beer and ice cream, just menthol.

This post is about getting dry hits. The reason I mentioned about the e-liquid is because you suggested I dilute it with distilled water. I wanted to know if other than making it easier for the coil head to wick, will the water have any effect on the taste of the e-liquid? Sorry if I am confusing.
 

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The way I understand it is I may need to lower down the wattage because the 0.5 coil head requires less power? When I was using the 0.3 coil head, I was at 30 watts (40 watts max but rarely).

Always start at the lowest manufacturer recommended wattage (or even lower) for any given coil--especially a new coil. Or even lower--just to make sure that the coil is prepped correctly and functioning as it should.
 

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I wanted to know if other than making it easier for the coil head to wick, will the water have any effect on the taste of the e-liquid?

I'm not Sugar, but no, it won't--you only add a drop or two of distilled water per tank. Your juice already has water in it--.5%-1% more won't affect anything.
 

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This post is about getting dry hits. The reason I mentioned about the e-liquid is because you suggested I dilute it with distilled water. I wanted to know if other than making it easier for the coil head to wick, will the water have any effect on the taste of the e-liquid? Sorry if I am confusing.
And I originally suggested adding a little vg to help smooth out that flavor, in your other post. This post of you wanting to poke holes in the atty is not what I see the problem as. Poking a hole in the attomizer would increase air flow or possibly ruin the entire coil itself. Dry hits are usually caused by the ejuice not flowing correctly or having enough or too much wattage on the mod.
So to me you are really asking the same questions as you did in your original post.
 
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I'm not Sugar, but no, it won't--you only add a drop or two of distilled water per tank. Your juice already has water in it--.5%-1% more won't affect anything.

Oh all right. Since the suggested wattage is not in the manual, I may need to experiment and see what works best, but you may also suggest if you can. Thank you!
 

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And I originally suggested adding a little vg to help smooth out that flavor, in your other post. This post of you wanting to poke holes in the atty is not what I see the problem as. Poking a hole in the attomizer would increase air flow or possibly ruin the entire coil itself. Dry hits are usually caused by the ejuice not flowing correctly or having enough or too much wattage on the mod.
So to me you are really asking the same questions as you did in your original post.

In my first post, my concern was the flavour of my root beer float is excessively mentholated, that's all, but this one is about getting dry hits. I haven't bought a bottle of VG, but when I have time I will. I hope it is clear now, and I appreciate all the help, and the fact you looked into both of my concerns. Thank you again, and sorry for the confusion.
 

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Oh all right. Since the suggested wattage is not in the manual, I may need to experiment and see what works best, but you may also suggest if you can. Thank you!

It should be on the coil itself--or on Eleaf website. What kind of coils are you using? For Melo 3? Sorry, I don't own one.

Melo2coils.jpg


ETA: If those are the coils you're using, please note that they are dual coils (Kanthal), so each coil only gets 15 watts (at 30 watts power). I assume that Eleaf is using low gauge wire, so 15 w per coil is perfectly fine.

The nickel coil can only be used in temperature control (TC), not power, mode.
 
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It should be on the coil itself--or on Eleaf website. What kind of coils are you using? For Melo 3? Sorry, I don't own one.

Melo2coils.jpg


ETA: If those are the coils you're using, please note that they are dual coils (Kanthal), so each coil only gets 15 watts (at 30 watts power). I assume that Eleaf is using low gauge wire, so 15 w per coil is perfectly fine.

The nickel coil can only be used in temperature control (TC), not power, mode.

Yes, I remembered just now. It is in the coil head itself. Thank you for this detailed explanation with a photo.
 
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