Positive news: WHO E-cigarette criticisms exposed as 'alarmist'

[Kent C]

When we're talking about surveys of doctors, we must bear in mind that doctors are by no means immune from the same ignorance and misinformation that afflict large segments of the general public. I've told the story before of my experience with my own doctor, who didn't even understand what e-cigs were or how they worked (he thought they still contained tobacco, but that it was simply heated rather than burned). After I'd taken the time to explain the current technology and direct him to some valuable online resources (ECF included), and since he'd already seen for himself the drastic turn for the better that my health had taken after only a few months of vaping instead of smoking, he became an enthusiastic convert and now actively recommends e-cigs to his patients who've had trouble quitting.

In summation, doctors are not automatically smarter or more well-informed just by virtue of the degree that hangs on their wall. Sometimes they need to be educated just like any other person does, and it's up to us, the people who know better, to do the educating.

Yeah, I really wasn't addressing their intelligence

 

[BuGlen]

When we're talking about surveys of doctors, we must bear in mind that doctors are by no means immune from the same ignorance and misinformation that afflict large segments of the general public. I've told the story before of my experience with my own doctor, who didn't even understand what e-cigs were or how they worked (he thought they still contained tobacco, but that it was simply heated rather than burned). After I'd taken the time to explain the current technology and direct him to some valuable online resources (ECF included), and since he'd already seen for himself the drastic turn for the better that my health had taken after only a few months of vaping instead of smoking, he became an enthusiastic convert and now actively recommends e-cigs to his patients who've had trouble quitting.

In summation, doctors are not automatically smarter or more well-informed just by virtue of the degree that hangs on their wall. Sometimes they need to be educated just like any other person does, and it's up to us, the people who know better, to do the educating.

Excellent point, and I'd like to expand it a bit if I may. In general, doctors are very busy with multiple patients and cases each day and can't/won't take the time to invest in research unless some significant evidence is staring them right in the face. Since we can't depend (or expect) that the AMA is going to recommend vapor products, thereby giving doctors the incentive to research, we have to be that evidence. What you did with your doctor is a very important method we have to make a difference, and I commend you in that effort. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince my doctor, even though she didn't condemn my choice, she wouldn't support it either. I'm now seeking a new doctor.

 

[Kent C]

Excellent point, and I'd like to expand it a bit if I may. In general, doctors are very busy with multiple patients and cases each day and can't/won't take the time to invest in research unless some significant evidence is staring them right in the face. Since we can't depend (or expect) that the AMA is going to recommend vapor products, thereby giving doctors the incentive to research, we have to be that evidence. What you did with your doctor is a very important method we have to make a difference, and I commend you in that effort. Unfortunately, I couldn't convince my doctor, even though she didn't condemn my choice, she wouldn't support it either. I'm now seeking a new doctor.

My GP and one specialist both support ecigs. One aide of the GP vapes (we exchange info each visit .... got her to an eGo from a cigalike and she appreciated it ) and one other girl in the office does as well. He supports them and is happy they quit smoking.

 

[AegisPrime]

My GP and one specialist both support ecigs. One aide of the GP vapes (we exchange info each visit .... got her to an eGo from a cigalike and she appreciated it ) and one other girl in the office does as well. He supports them and is happy they quit smoking.

Funnily enough, when I last went to see my GP he asked if I was still smoking - I told him I just vaped now and he was enthusiastic as to the health benefits but did suggest I use caution since "those things blow up"

 

[Kent C]

Funnily enough, when I last went to see my GP he asked if I was still smoking - I told him I just vaped now and he was enthusiastic as to the health benefits but did suggest I use caution since "those things blow up"

Lol... the ANTZ reach is far

 

[DrMA]

Let's take bets on the possibility of response from WHO.

I bet they'll keep silent on this and never even acknowledge the critique.

 

[Kent C]

Let's take bets on the possibility of response from WHO.

I bet they'll keep silent on this and never even acknowledge the critique.

Perhaps, but I saw a few criticisms from the WHO on other published works, in looking up other things

So far the ANTZ, in general, hasn't let any positive (or critical) articles go without some comeback which is more fear-mongering than their original.

 

[DrMA]

I'm not sure people realized this, but the McNeill et al. publication is actually a critique of the infamous and abysmal Grana et al. (glANTZ) review that's been giving us so much trouble. All of the alarmist lies and misinformation in the WHO report are sourced to this one "review" article and an associated report commissioned by WHO from the same group of dementors.

The full text of McNeill et al. is available for free download for the next 30 days from the journal page linked in the OP.

 

[DrMA]

glANTZ reaction to WHO critique. WARNING! this will raise your blood pressure and may cause sudden emesis:

tobacco.ucsf.edu/response-mcneill-et-al-criticism-report-we-prepared-who-and-subsequent-review-paper-circulation-ecigs

 

[sonicdsl]

glANTZ reaction to WHO critique. WARNING! this will raise your blood pressure and may cause sudden emesis:

tobacco.ucsf.edu/response-mcneill-et-al-criticism-report-we-prepared-who-and-subsequent-review-paper-circulation-ecigs

Emesis already occurred due to the content of your post, so may as well take a look





ugh...dry heaves