Possible e-cig use ban in public places - Saugus MA
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"Mark Petrillo, owner of Eastern Vapor, said e-cigarettes are a good way to quit smoking and noted he would support the new regulation since he already sells his products like they are regular cigarettes."
It doesn't seem too smart to support legislation that may prohibit you from testing and demonstrating your product in your shop. Unless there's an exemption. But even still, he should be pushing for less restrictions on public use, not more.
Typical crap from the government, “But because it’s such a new product, we don’t know if it’s harmful or to what level it could be taken." Hey, we don't know, so let's restrict it.
Age restrictions do make sense, though.
It doesn't seem too smart to support legislation that may prohibit you from testing and demonstrating your product in your shop. Unless there's an exemption. But even still, he should be pushing for less restrictions on public use, not more.
Typical crap from the government, “But because it’s such a new product, we don’t know if it’s harmful or to what level it could be taken." Hey, we don't know, so let's restrict it.
Age restrictions do make sense, though.
I just spoke with Mark Petrillo on the phone, and he says he will be posting a reply here shortly.
Eastern Vapor
335 Central Street
(Side Entrance)
Saugus, MA 01906
Phone: 617-412-0804
Just want to start off with a big thank you to DC2 for informing me on this post. Wanted to clear this up for you guys. The town informed me that the regulation they wanted to put into effect was to prevent the sale to minors, 18+ only, and to obtain a license to sell the product, which is what I was agreeing with. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THEY WANTED TO BAN THE USE IN PUBLIC PLACES. I WAS ONLY INFORMED FROM THE TOWN THAT THEY WANTED TO REGULATE THEM BY NOT SELLING TO MINORS AND OBTAINING A LICENSE, THATS ALL. Just wanted to clear this issue up and let everyone know IAM AGAINST BANNING PUBLIC USE AND WOULD NEVER EVER BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. Seems like the media has twisted it again and Iam sorry if anyone thought I was backing the idea of a ban. Sorry guys and thank you.
I wanted to also add I will be fighting for public use now that I am aware they are aiming for a public ban. Sorry for the mix-up again everyone.
Its perfectly understandable, that they would try to slip that in under the radar, or use your words in a context you did not mean, and actually thank you for what seems to be a very kind and polite vendor in your area. Much respect.
I actually agree with your point of view entirely.
I actually agree with your point of view entirely.
A vape shop in Saugus!! 
Hi EV335 I live a couple towns away from your shop. Welcome to ECF.
I'll have to check out your store someday.
Hi EV335 I live a couple towns away from your shop. Welcome to ECF.
I'll have to check out your store someday.
I'm not sure how much you have had to deal with the anti crowd in general. I can tell you that deception has become a disturbingly common practice for many of the groups asking for this kind of legislation at any level. There is a money trail to be followed and if you do that, it becomes painfully clear why this so.
Big pharma has a lot to lose if people all quit by vaping. The products they sell don't work very well, and they are expensive. They have no interest in you really quitting, they just want you to try.
Big tobacco at least in the USA, tends to stay out of the vaping business completely. They currently have nothing to gain by being "against" us, as were not really big enough in numbers to change much in this "developed country", considering the overall picture of the income they get. They also don't have a lot to gain being "for" us, as they have trust issues and product development issues to overcome to go there. Smokeless products like snus for example are just much easier for them produce and they have chosen to back that dog at the present time. Of course they still actively protect their rights to sell, in less developed countries, where there are plenty of smokers for their old products.
Big pharma funds the anti groups and certain politicians, hoping to drive more people to their products, and vaping put a monkey wrench into that. So vaping became a target. Anything that restricts vaping to the consumer to them is a win. They are more than willing to lie to anyone it takes to get the result they want. They have a proven track record of that. I just want you to be aware that their article, may or may not have been on accident. I'd be willing to bet it wasn't, though proving it is another matter entirely.
Big pharma has a lot to lose if people all quit by vaping. The products they sell don't work very well, and they are expensive. They have no interest in you really quitting, they just want you to try.
Big tobacco at least in the USA, tends to stay out of the vaping business completely. They currently have nothing to gain by being "against" us, as were not really big enough in numbers to change much in this "developed country", considering the overall picture of the income they get. They also don't have a lot to gain being "for" us, as they have trust issues and product development issues to overcome to go there. Smokeless products like snus for example are just much easier for them produce and they have chosen to back that dog at the present time. Of course they still actively protect their rights to sell, in less developed countries, where there are plenty of smokers for their old products.
Big pharma funds the anti groups and certain politicians, hoping to drive more people to their products, and vaping put a monkey wrench into that. So vaping became a target. Anything that restricts vaping to the consumer to them is a win. They are more than willing to lie to anyone it takes to get the result they want. They have a proven track record of that. I just want you to be aware that their article, may or may not have been on accident. I'd be willing to bet it wasn't, though proving it is another matter entirely.
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I'm glad you were misquoted. Well, not exactly. More glad that you don't support public bans actually. It only seems to make sense for you not to. Silly me to expect that they actually quoted you in context. Typical media twist.
Good luck. Due to our efforts here in Boise we got a specific e-cig exemption from their last round of Nazi-esque smoking prohibitions. Hopefully the folks out there are somewhat reasonable, though I wouldn't count on it.
Hey EV335, I see you have "moved on" so if you are reading this, hopefully you will register here.
And hopefully if you do you will no longer be in "moved on" status.
This is a great site, as you will find if you look around for a few minutes.
Anyway, good luck to you.
And hopefully if you do you will no longer be in "moved on" status.
This is a great site, as you will find if you look around for a few minutes.
Anyway, good luck to you.
I just spoke with Mark on the phone, and we will be working together on a Letter to the Editor as well as a letter from him to the town.
He will also be back here. *YAY*
He will also be back here. *YAY*
Vocalek thank you so much for contacting Mark and for all the work you do for us. It's greatly appreciated.
I'm thrilled to see a vape shop here so close to me. I applaud Mark for opening one.
Massachusetts is so anti-smoking I know there will be a big effort to lump ecigarettes in with regular cigarette restrictions. Perhaps stores like Marks will change public perception.
I'm thrilled to see a vape shop here so close to me. I applaud Mark for opening one.
Massachusetts is so anti-smoking I know there will be a big effort to lump ecigarettes in with regular cigarette restrictions. Perhaps stores like Marks will change public perception.
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