Why do the thicker ''premium'' E juices only come in lower nicotine content. I used to use the thinner ego style batteries and the disposable with 24 mg nicotine content. I upgraded to an ego one and you're supposed to use the thicker juices but the highest nicotine content i can get is 6mg. This sucks and I'm so frustrated because if I use the thinner higher nicotine ones it doesn't vape up well and burns my chest and throat. The premium ones work well but not enough nicotine and most of them come in disgusting cereal or yogurt flavors. Also some of the replacement atomizers I bought for my ego one simply wont screw on. Is this a ghost town? Please help me. Thanks.
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After the introduction of "cloud chasing" tons of vapers started vaping low MG juices -the more vapor you take in, the more nicotine that follows...in other words, a vaper who uses 12mg liquid would find that too high whilst taking in a lot of vapor. Since vaping has advanced so much, and many of the mods, batteries, and atomizers on the market today are capable of putting out a ton of power, and thus a ton of vapor, there demand for lower mg liquids has risen.
What GrandSam said, many people find that with more powerful gear they need to lower their nic level. You can still get juice that's higher mg nic though, just perhaps not what you're used to getting. Many vendors let you customize nic AND pg/vg ratios. Mt Baker Vapor, Heather's Heavenly Vapes, Yaeliq all let you customize both and offer higher nic. Velvet Cloud is all VG but also has higher nic levels, VapingZone has a max vg line that goes up to 12mg.
I don't order from anyone that doesn't offer at least 12mg.
I don't order from anyone that doesn't offer at least 12mg.
A week ago I hung out in a vape shop for a while and watched the clerk send a newbie out with 3 mg liquids. There is only one reason I could think of for that, less nic means you vape more ml's. IMO that is not ethical. I finally, finally started DIY a few days ago and it's a revelation. I timidly added a very small amount of just one flavor and immediately preferred it to my pre mixed liquids. It turns out I don't like tons of flavors and sweetners, and mystery crap in my e liquid for the same reasons I avoid resturant food. Besides the fact the DIY liquid is basically free it can have similar benefits to home cooking. You wouldn't eat at resturants every night either. (My weekly ration of DIY liquid costs 84 cents to make. I used to pay more than that for 3 cigarettes.)
I just started DIY and find I prefer a lower percentage of flavor than what is in premixed liquids I've tried. I can also fiddle and fine tune the nic percentage and, last but not least, it costs 84 cents a week. What are you paying?
So where can I look for juice that has higher nicotine like 12mg that will work well with my ego one. The old liquids that I used to use do not work well in my ego one. I need thicker premium ones but with a little higher nicotine. So is it VG or PG that I need. Seriously what the hell.
dead honest answer: I really don't know what people who vape higher nic levels are going to do these days. I guess buy some nic solution and "spike" your ejuice to a higher nic level.
Of course, if you're going to have to do that, may as well just get involved in DIY anyway, make your own ejuice to your own spec.
Dead honest answer to your question: I truly believe that it is a cost - cutting measure. Vendors save a ton of money over thousands of bottles by not having to use up nicotine. I've noticed many have already stopped making 18mg and 24mg. Not a move I support, since many people getting off cigs really NEED higher nic in the beginning. And some people always need it.
It's simple supply and demand. More sub ohm stuff is selling and most people use half as much nic when they go to that gear. A vendor here (nicoticket?) has a thread about why they killed their higher nic liquids. They just don't sell enough to keep it in stock. Slow selling items taking up space that could be used to keep popular items in stock end up costing them more than it is worth.
If you want higher nic, and a choice of vg/pg ratio, try Vape Wild and Mt Baker. Their juices are made to order, so you may have to steep them, but they will make what you want.
If you want higher nic, and a choice of vg/pg ratio, try Vape Wild and Mt Baker. Their juices are made to order, so you may have to steep them, but they will make what you want.
bingo.
If you can't find what you need, cheat. DIY liquid is a common practice for those of us who can't or won't pay 30 for 30ml (I'm looking at you 5Pawns) or can't find the correct nic level from particular vendors. Try getting some 36 or 60mg nicotine base in a high VG blend from any of the plethora of online vendors (I use Ecigxpress).
Buying a juice that you like and mixing it with UFNB (Un-Flavored Nic Base) in the desired PG (Thin)/ VG (Thick) level, while adding enough Nicotine that your final product has your desired Nic % and VG/PG ratio is the answer for a lot of us. I dropped down to 12mg after getting into squonking, but I buy Nicoticket at 12mg and mix it with the same volume of my own UFNB (91.8% VG, 7% PG, 1.2% Nicotine) for roughly a 75 VG/ 25 PG ratio in the final product. They add a lot of flavoring, so flavor is still very intense, with the added benefit of less/slower coil gunking.
Please tell me what I need to look for in regards to juice that will work well in my ego one. Should it be pg vg what ratio? What am I looking for? I am so f***ing frustrated!
Relax brother. Getting frustrated isn't going to help. I don't use an Ego1, never even seen one in person. What is the PG/VG ratio in the juice you were using?
You mentioned that your "older" elqiuids worked well. Do you remember the ratios on those?
IN general, best way to keep any coil vaping well is clearest lightest colored eliquids, BTW. Unfortunately, the photos on websites often use amber bottles now so if they don't have a "grading system" telling you how dark or light the elquid is, you may end up buying a coil killer.
IF you want "thick" eliquid, I'd say 80vg/20pg is pretty thick. Even 70vg/30pg. Buy a bottle of 36mg nic solution in VG (36mg is so safe to work with, no hazmat stuff necessary even for a newbie pretty much) and spike your 6mg or 12mg vendor juice up to the level you need.
If you are bad in math, people in DIY will help you.
After looking at the Joyetech website, it appears to have drop in coils. In my experience, these seem to work well with a 50/50 pg/vg blend. In some sense, your coil resistance (1 ohm or 0.5 ohm) "dictates" which type of vaping you prefer: Mouth to lung (MTL) or Lung Inhale. Generally, those who prefer MTL will do just fine with almost any blend of PG/VG, whereas Lung Hitters tend to prefer a higher VG blend than 50/50. VG will create more vapor, and is very thick. PG is considered a flavor carrier, adds "throat hit", and is very thin. Consider trying a 50/50 blend as it will be a fair trade off of vapor production and Throat hit.
Vaping is a journey. It may take time before you really figure out what blend works best FOR YOU.
A 50/50 PG/VG blend is just as it sounds; middle of the road.
Vaping is a journey. It may take time before you really figure out what blend works best FOR YOU.
A 50/50 PG/VG blend is just as it sounds; middle of the road.
VG is thick, PG is thin. You probably want juice in the 50-80vg range. The vendors in my first post either let you select your ratio of VG/pg or offer high/max VG liquids. Mt baker, ITC vapes, vaping zone, those are among the cheapest.
If you tell us what flavored you like we can probably help with suggestions.
I mostly just want tobacco flavors with around a 12 mg nicotine content. Been searching the web and almost made an order at mt baker but I don't understand what pg vg ratio I should get. OMG I haven't been this close to tears in years. I'm just going to chuck this .... and go back to cigs.
I haven't tried mt baker's tobacco flavors, so I won't be any help with the flavorings, but for the ego one you might want to try a 50/50 blend, or you can even try 20pg/80vg. The great thing about MBV(mt baker) is that they're cheap so you can buy a few different 15ml's, and they're fast, usually just a couple days to your door depending on where you live.
Mt. Baker Vapor, ITC Vapes, Vape Wild, and Mech Sauce are pretty darned customizable as to nicotine and pg/vg. My daughter and I enjoy eliquids from all of them. We started off almost 4 years ago ordering from Vapor Bomb, which at the time was very customizable as far as nicotine and pg/vg. We have not ordered from Vapor Bomb for a while, but from the customer service we received when they were our first and only eliquid vendor, I would still recommend them. The Vapor Room is also fairly customizable.
If it were me, and if I could afford it, I would order smaller bottles in various pg/vg ratios, at the nicotine level you are comfortable using, to see how they work for you with your equipment.
If it were me, and if I could afford it, I would order smaller bottles in various pg/vg ratios, at the nicotine level you are comfortable using, to see how they work for you with your equipment.
I will try to be as specific as I can with the info you provided. The ego one is non-adjustable device, which means the amount of power applied ( wattage ) is dependent on the resistance of the atomizer used. In that regards it is similar to the old ego's you used, assuming you had a non vv ( variable voltage ) ego. The difference is that the ego one atomizer comes standard with either 0.5 ohm head or a 1.0 ohm headed with a lot more air flow than the previous coil heads you used which were probably in the 2.0 ohm resistance range. The combination of lower resistance and more air flow means you are pulling in a lot more vapor with every pull than you did before, so the thinner ( higher pg ) and higher nicotine juices would be more abrasive and harsh.
My recommendation is to use the 1.0 ohm head in your ego one, and use a liquid in the 50/50 to 30/70 pg/vg ratio at 12 mg. If you are using the 0.5 ohm coil head a 12 mg/ml nice level may be too much, and you may need to use 6mg liquid, which means you will need to use a lot more liquid to get the same nicotine fix.
As far as tobacco flavored e liquid in the mid price range, I have liked Ahlusion, Heather Heavenly Vapes and Mountain Oak Vapor. The frost two are customizable and MOV offers different lines. Either 50/50 or 30/70 pg/vg. Halo offers very popular tobacco juices as well but the pg ratio might be too high for your device even if you use a 1.0 ohm coil head. You will not have as many options in brick and mortar vape shops likely as most of those seem to concentrate on the newer brands with low nic high vg . What you called 'premium'.
Good Luck !
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