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sh_

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I just read this thread and I have to say thats really sad to know that Raf-a-licious will not be available anymore. That was my all day vape and I loved it.

After a few attempts on DIY trying to mimic this juice I have to say that I am not even close :D and thats the reason that I was trying to buy this juice from w/e I could.

I noticed that you guys dont even have it available on the website so if you still have any leftover stock I would like to buy :D
 

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If you are 100% NOT going to provide it anymore, how about releasing the recipe so diehards can continue vaping it at a premium if they wish?

Not going to happen. Sounds simple but it is not. The recipe isn't what is the issue it's a couple of flavorings. I won't share this process and recipe nor will I for any juice. This is my welfare and what puts foods in my family's mouth. I don't want to come off as harsh but this is not as tangential and non-impactful as you make it sound, actually quite the reverse. Additionally, it would still promote a business practice I morally and ethically don't agree with for multiple reasons.

Finally, I'm not 100% sure I won't create it again, many things could happen in the short term to bring this back to the shelves; lowering the price back to previous standards, reduced shipping costs, alternatives from other suppliers, and a few more.
 

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Not going to happen. Sounds simple but it is not. The recipe isn't what is the issue it's a couple of flavorings. I won't share this process and recipe nor will I for any juice. This is my welfare and what puts foods in my family's mouth. I don't want to come off as harsh but this is not as tangential and non-impactful as you make it sound, actually quite the reverse. Additionally, it would still promote a business practice I morally and ethically don't agree with for multiple reasons.

Finally, I'm not 100% sure I won't create it again, many things could happen in the short term to bring this back to the shelves; lowering the price back to previous standards, reduced shipping costs, alternatives from other suppliers, and a few more.

As much as I desperately love Raf, I think you're 100% justified in keeping your trade secrets :).
 

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Let's tone this thread down a bit. The only bad question is the one left unasked. I'm a forum pro, hell I've been MMOing and forum stomping since ...wow a really long time 1997... Hell before Everquest (If you want to go WAY back, I was playing a M.U.D. called Realm of Magic which I think is still around today if you want to Google it.)

There are reasons to ask innocent questions, I've found it saves me a lot of time and money. The worst that can happen is someone says, "No." and your still left where you are at.
 

andyman97

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Woah, sorry for the .... fight.

I hadn't thought it through that much that there would be things they would not want revealed.

Take pleasure in the fact that I am still forced to only be able to buy 12ml AVE juice from resellers :(
I wouldn't worry about it. You're free to ask whatever you want. If a juice maker wants to reveal their recipe, they can, if not, they don't have to. I don't see anything unreasonable about asking.

I also don't think anyone should take pleasure in the fact that you are limited based on your location...but that's just me.
 

base234

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Woah, sorry for the .... fight.

No need for you to apologize. My fault, not yours. You were just doing what we do on ECF. It did turn out to be a good question because it made me think about how these juice recipes are intellectual property worth a lot in some cases.

Believe me, anyone who loves AVE juices like I do takes no pleasure about you having to buy small quantities from resellers.
 

KEITH97M3

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Woah, sorry for the .... fight.

I hadn't thought it through that much that there would be things they would not want revealed.

Take pleasure in the fact that I am still forced to only be able to buy 12ml AVE juice from resellers :(

Raf-a-licious E-Liquid - by Alien Visions Has 30ml Raf-A-Licious left in 6 & 18mg, he also ships to AU but you better hurry.
 

KEITH97M3

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No they don't. It says "In Stock", but try clicking "Add To Cart".

I just tried it and you are correct. I don't know why the sites works like that because if you try and add the 24mg, it immediately says "the options you have selected are currently not available" but it doesn't say that with the 6 and 18mg. Guess only the 24mg 12ml are available.:(
 
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