Pretty negative article! CASAA Mentioned.

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So it has been ages since I have been on these forums but I was reading the news and came across this article, wanted to post it because among many infuriating things the headline of the article implies vaping makes you "look like a douche." CASAA is also mentioned in this article.


[h=1]What Are the Health And Economic Risks of E-Cigs, Besides Looking Like a Douche?[/h]http://www.mainstreet.com/article/f...besides-looking-douche?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO.
 

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The writer, William Richards, is a true progressive/socialist. He thinks Obamacare doesn't go far enough and favors public health insurance - national health care without any private companies involvement. He only agrees with Republicans when they compromise their principles or simply don't have any.... He gave Scott Brown a pat on the back on his vote to end the filibuster on the $15 billiion "jobs bill" that created no jobs!! Well.. it did for a while before those solar companies went bankrupt :facepalm: edit: it may be another author of the same name but the text of the original article speaks for itself and in the same language/concepts as above....

This is the crux of the issue... Richards:

"His [Burslyn's](and CASAA's) claims about the even more negligible effect on "public health" are based on extrapolation only; if the user's health isn't bothered, then the health of others around him or her will not be bothered, either. In other words, the study does not actually assess the impact of second-hand smoke (or, rather vapor)."

... which is fueled by Burslyn's likely attempt to be 'fair and balanced' - something, btw, the other side never is : "it would be prudent to scrutinize the health of exposed individuals and examine how exposures could be reduced."

To their credit, I suppose, some liberal progressives still understand that Petro's 'leave me alone' still has some power of persuasion, so they have to make it so that 'others are harmed', not just the individual themselves.... hence the writer's comments:

"I'm not sure he (Bloomberg) stays up late worrying about the individual smoker, crushing a pack on his balcony with a $9.99 bottle of wine. But, he cares abstractly about healthcare costs and acutely about someone's Parliament puff trailing four feet into another taxpayer's face. Or, in this case, someone's vapor cloud."

When healthcare costs are socialized - then it is the 'duty' of every comrade to be health conscious because not doing so imposes costs on - steals from - those who are being health conscious for the good of the state.

So... it would behoove whoever is doing the studies, to include 'second hand vapor' as part of the study. I've seen those studies, perhaps they were not of the one presented... or perhaps they were and the writer ignored them to be able to make his point. ;)
 
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The writer, William Richards, is a true progressive/socialist. He thinks Obamacare doesn't go far enough and favors public health insurance - national health care without any private companies involvement. He only agrees with Republicans when they compromise their principles or simply don't have any.... He gave Scott Brown a pat on the back on his vote to end the filibuster on the $15 billiion "jobs bill" that created no jobs!! Well.. it did for a while before those solar companies went bankrupt :facepalm:...

Where did you get this information? (edit: there's a "William Richards" that fits your description, a blogger in Ohio. This "William Richards" lives in NY)

Got A Light? | William Richards

He's a writer mostly about architecture and social trends. He seems genuinely doubtful that e-cigs are as safe as CASAA claims; I don't see a problem with someone being a skeptic; I just see an individual that is stubborn, and/or has high standards for what he considers reliable information. It's not helping us, but it's not an unhealthy reality check.
 
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Where did you get this information? (edit: there's a "William Richards" that fits your description, a blogger in Ohio. This "William Richards" lives in NY)

Got A Light? | William Richards

He's a writer mostly about architecture and social trends. He seems genuinely doubtful that e-cigs are as safe as CASAA claims; I don't see a problem with someone being a skeptic; I just see an individual that is stubborn, and/or has high standards for what he considers reliable information. It's not helping us, but it's not an unhealthy reality check.

Where I got most of it was from his comments on the article posted. The Scott Brown stuff was from a blog where he says he's a 'citizen of main street' and the article in the OP was a mainstreet article. Here's the blog... his profile says MA... maybe it's you! :laugh: Just kidding.... ;) And maybe he moves a lot. I would, if I were him. :laugh:


http://fromthedeskofwilliamrichards.blogspot.com/2010/08/sunday-journal.html
 

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Excellent choice of words.

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Where I got most of it was from his comments on the article posted. The Scott Brown stuff was from a blog where he says he's a 'citizen of main street' and the article in the OP was a mainstreet article. Here's the blog... his profile says MA... maybe it's you! :laugh: Just kidding.... ;) And maybe he moves a lot. I would, if I were him. :laugh:
Yeah, you got the wrong William. No, it's not me :D

I read all the comments to the article (posted at top) and can't identify the author in there; what's his username?
 
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Yeah, you got the wrong William.

I didn't in the main commentary on the article itself. That's all him :D It is consistent with the other stuff but unfortunately, there are other people that think the same way. I'll do some more checking on the author on those other points, but the main points regarding ecigs and how those type of people look at it, still stands.
 

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Maybe he wrote the article as a provocateur? A bit of controversy is great for getting people's attention.

On the other hand, if his interest is "social culture", he's either trying to reflect his perception (which looks an awful lot closeted to me), or trying to jump on the silly "ban e-cigs" bandwagon.

Either way, the comments speak for themselves.
 

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Maybe he wrote the article as a provocateur? A bit of controversy is great for getting people's attention.

On the other hand, if his interest is "social culture", he's either trying to reflect his perception (which looks an awful lot closeted to me), or trying to jump on the silly "ban e-cigs" bandwagon.

Either way, the comments speak for themselves.

I agree. He seems to be a better writer elsewhere... but the politics are the same:

http://williamcrichards.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/thestreet-com/

Some will see what I meant, by the picture on the $100k bill ;)
 

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Some will see what I meant, by the picture on the $100k bill ;)
I don't think his choice of the 100k$ bill was political; I think he was trying to show the cost of his PhD, in a simple picture.

I looked up political contributions, and while there's plenty of William Richards, none appear to be a match.

I don't see any political leanings in any of his articles (and there shouldn't be anyways). Maybe I missed something.
 
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