Pretty negative article! CASAA Mentioned.

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"His [Burslyn's](and CASAA's) claims about the even more negligible effect on "public health" are based on extrapolation only; if the user's health isn't bothered, then the health of others around him or her will not be bothered, either. In other words, the study does not actually assess the impact of second-hand smoke (or, rather vapor)."

He's an idiot and wrong. Dr. Burstyn's report quite succinctly assess the impact of "second-hand" vapor:
The cautions about propylene glycol and glycerin apply only to the exposure experienced by the vapers themselves. Exposure of bystanders to the listed ingredients, let alone the contaminants, does not warrant a concern as the exposure is likely to be orders of magnitude lower than exposure experienced by vapers.

The study found that the chemical exposures to vapers was WAY BELOW the allowances for workplace exposures, except for PG/VG exposure, which was near (but not at) workplace limits ONLY when DIRECTLY inhaled. Meaning, other than a slight concern about constant, direct inhalation of PG/VG by vapers themselves, the exposures to the ingredients in e-cigarettes, including "contaminants", is already so low risk that it's not a cause of concern for even the vapers (which is discussed in the rest of the analysis). Since exposure to bystanders would be far less than what vapers get, there is no way it poses ANY risk to bystanders. If directly inhaling something has no health risks, how could second-hand possibly have any health risks?

Put it this way as an example:
If the safe workplace exposure limit is 100 ppm and the direct exposure from vaping is 1 ppm (not a health hazard) then exposure at LESS THAN 1 ppm by bystanders couldn't possibly be a health risk. In order for a bystander to get the same exposure as a vaper, they'd have to be in a sealed room with 100 people vaping. And even then, the risk would still be well below the workplace safety levels (1 ppm). So, "extrapolation only" is pretty convincing in this case, because it's based on actual chemistry, not epidemiology.
 
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I don't think his choice of the 100k$ bill was political; I think he was trying to show the cost of his PhD, in a simple picture.

I looked up political contributions, and while there's plenty of William Richards, none appear to be a match.

I don't see any political leanings in any of his articles (and there shouldn't be anyways). Maybe I missed something.

I don't have the time or desire to peruse his other articles.... but his political leanings are evident to me in the original article posted here, for the reasons stated above. Laissez faire libertarians and conservatives don't think in those terms.

The 100k bill was just a tweak.... and I think you're right - it was about the high pile of dough - what it sometimes cost to join the intellectual elite class of those who know what's best for the masses.....
 

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You'd think it more of a "liberal" state of mind, to let people do what they want to, w/out interfering with their pursuit of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"... but alas, I agree, it seems they just want to control everyone to conform by their perceptions. Quite sad really.

Classical liberal, yes. Modern liberal - no - they're the inventors of political correctness, something the old Left would despise.

Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning: Jonah Goldberg: 9780385511841: Amazon.com: Books
 

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He's an idiot and wrong. Dr. Burstyn's report quite succinctly assess the impact of "second-hand" vapor:

Hi kristin! I thought I had seen some mention of the 'second hand vapor' somewhere but wasn't sure it was this particular study. Thanks for the added info. Even the old 1947 studies of industrial inhalation by factory workers of PG and VG tend to back up the 'no problem' with those components.

I haven't been following this forum but there was an earlier segment on Fox a few weeks back:

New concerns over long-term risks of e-cigarettes | Fox News Video

A bit more 'balanced' but Dr. Alvarez is lacking some info and makes some comments that are just wrong. His 'concern' was the "children" (sigh).... and said they can walk into 'any Candy Store and get these things' which is similar to the ......... comments of W.Richards on this article. :facepalm: Use whatever means possible to denigrate - but don't actually look at the facts! :laugh:
 

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