Pros/Cons of VW kick modules in the nemisis

[regal55]

I have three nemesis's, the clones are of such good quality and selling for $20 & under on ebay auctions I ended up with three and use them all.

I have one setup just like a cigar with an 18500 battery, magnet switch and no regulation. I have another setup with an 18650 battery and wattage kick regulation.

The dial to set the wattage is so abstract that I sometimes wonder if it is worth it. The only way to set the wattage that I can think of is the following procedure.

1. Go to radio shack and buy a resistor of the same resistance (ohms) as the coil in your tank.
2. Solder leads/probes to the resistor
3. Put one probe on the firing pin and another on the battery.
4. Hold down the button (fire) and measure the voltage across the resistor.
5. Calculate wattage V squared divided by resistance.
6. If its not where you want it take it apart and adjust.
7. Repeat.


PITA.. I guess I am curious how others feel about a variable wattage kick module in their nemesis, worth it or not?

 

[Stosh]

I use a kick but don't worry about the numbers. I've adjusted it to the level I like simply by taste, and since it regulates wattage changing toppers doesn't affect the setting. Once it's at the perfect setting, just vape on and forget it's there.

I've always adjusted my VV or VW mods to the best taste & vapor, then checked the numbers so I could set it the same in the future.

 

[regal55]

Yea thats what I've been doing pretty much but some e-juices require just the right wattage. Do these kick modules save battery life, or even it out at all?

I started adding up the price:

1. Nemisis clone $20
2. Kick Module -$15
3. Magnets $4

= $39 Cost of SVD = $39. Now the nemesis is lighter weight and much more flexible but it makes you think.

 

[Stosh]

Haven't seen much difference in battery life, when using standard resistance 1.8Ω toppers. The kick works well if your don't want to constantly tweak your vape. I have a couple other VV mods that have the normal button adjustments to find the perfect flavor for a particular eliquid...

 

[doghair]

I use one in mine. I like the consistency of the hit over the life of the battery but more that it shuts off and won't drain down past the recommended cutoff. I get all myopic reading sometimes and don't pay attention and look down to find the kick has cut me off so i go get a fresh battery. Personally I don't understand the complaints on how hard it is to adjust, just spin the top off move the screw a little, spin the top back on and and taste, repeat if necessary. Not as convenient as a button but still pretty low drama to me.

 

[icemanistheking]

I am weird in that I do not like the consistency of a Kick lol. I love getting used to a 3.7-3.9 volt vape, which is a perfectly good vape imo, then putting in a fresh battery and getting a blast of power, haha. I have a Kick 2, but never use it anymore.

I also typically like to vape higher than 15W, and doesn't it limit you to that?

 

[edyle]

I have three nemesis's, the clones are of such good quality and selling for $20 & under on ebay auctions I ended up with three and use them all.

I have one setup just like a cigar with an 18500 battery, magnet switch and no regulation. I have another setup with an 18650 battery and wattage kick regulation.

The dial to set the wattage is so abstract that I sometimes wonder if it is worth it. The only way to set the wattage that I can think of is the following procedure.

1. Go to radio shack and buy a resistor of the same resistance (ohms) as the coil in your tank.
2. Solder leads/probes to the resistor
3. Put one probe on the firing pin and another on the battery.
4. Hold down the button (fire) and measure the voltage across the resistor.
5. Calculate wattage V squared divided by resistance.
6. If its not where you want it take it apart and adjust.
7. Repeat.


PITA.. I guess I am curious how others feel about a variable wattage kick module in their nemesis, worth it or not?

So ... sounds like you are aiming for a particular voltage, and trying to figure out what wattage to use to get that voltage?

If you want a particular voltage, better to get a VV kick.

Get a VV kick and set it to 3.7 volts!

 

[BeRight]

I don't have one nor know about its quality nor shipping cost but a VAMO V5 for $25.63 is at e5cigs coupon code VapingCheap may still get 5% off.

Other options MVP 2 I've seen for $40ish via internet searching maybe even less now - I build 1.5 ohm coils and Vape between 8-10 watts making the MVP 2 a perfect fit (11 watts max)..

 

[edyle]

Yea thats what I've been doing pretty much but some e-juices require just the right wattage. Do these kick modules save battery life, or even it out at all?

I started adding up the price:

1. Nemisis clone $20
2. Kick Module -$15
3. Magnets $4

= $39 Cost of SVD = $39. Now the nemesis is lighter weight and much more flexible but it makes you think.

Altogether its a much more maintainable system;
If the SVD dies, first you got to troubleshoot where the problem is and if its the electronics, how are you going to fix that.
If the kick module dies, you'll know when you take it out and find the mech works without it, then you just drop in another kick module.

 

[WattWick]

I don't own a Kick. There's something I've always wondered, tho...

As a Kick adds to the size of your mod, you could just as well use a bigger/higher capacity battery? So... will a Kick keep an 18490 running longer than an 18650 runs in its unregulated "sweet zone"? I imagine, once the battery is actually below your "sweet zone" anyway, most of its capacity will go towards increasing voltage... and it would drain pretttty rapidly? Say, your battery is at 3.6 volts and you try to Kick output back up to 4 volts.

Of course this doesn't matter one bit if you're not opposed to the size of a Kicked 18650.

These are just questions and speculations from a non-user... not wild accusations

Edit: Just realized I took this way off topic. Sorry about that!

 

[muzichead]

The kick won't keep an 18490 running longer than an 18650. All the kick does is regulate your vape to whatever you have it set to for the duration of the batteries charge down to 3.2v. That is all it does. Set it and forget it. It will stutter when the battery gets down to its lowest voltage to let you know it needs to be replaced.

 

[crxess]

You make me wonder why you haven't tosses it out a window. Such a Pain to actually get it set up.

Sarcasm^^^^^

I have 9 Nemesis clones
5 With Kicks
4 without

Non take more than a minute or two to tune in and once done there is no more fiddling. No need for a screen as a constant reminder that it is set. No unnecessary added length.
IF the Kick fails - remove and keep vaping.
Kick is great in all 3 Battery configurations.
18350/kick and Hybrid plate is almost 1" shorter than my 18350 eVic

Not sure why you feel it is such an issue as VW is generally set and forget.

Did you not notice, or is your Kick missing - the indicator on the board that indicates relative position for Watts?

 

[regal55]

Altogether its a much more maintainable system;
If the SVD dies, first you got to troubleshoot where the problem is and if its the electronics, how are you going to fix that.
If the kick module dies, you'll know when you take it out and find the mech works without it, then you just drop in another kick module.

Very good point and thanks for reminding me why I went this direction.

You make me wonder why you haven't tosses it out a window. Such a Pain to actually get it set up.

Sarcasm^^^^^

I have 9 Nemesis clones
5 With Kicks
4 without

Non take more than a minute or two to tune in and once done there is no more fiddling. No need for a screen as a constant reminder that it is set. No unnecessary added length.
IF the Kick fails - remove and keep vaping.
Kick is great in all 3 Battery configurations.
18350/kick and Hybrid plate is almost 1" shorter than my 18350 eVic

Not sure why you feel it is such an issue as VW is generally set and forget.

Did you not notice, or is your Kick missing - the indicator on the board that indicates relative position for Watts?

The problem is when you adjust it the whole thing spins, so you need a chopstick or something to hold it in place while you adjust. And you really never know where you are at. I guess a VV kick does make more sense.

 

[edyle]

Very good point and thanks for reminding me why I went this direction.





The problem is when you adjust it the whole thing spins, so you need a chopstick or something to hold it in place while you adjust. And you really never know where you are at. I guess a VV kick does make more sense.

Yes; for drop in kick modules, a simple VV kick makes alot of sense compared to a VW kick.
You set the kick for 3.7 and vape; if something goes wrong with your kick, you take it out and take of the kick tube and you're good to go.

 

[crxess]

Yes; for drop in kick modules, a simple VV kick makes alot of sense compared to a VW kick.
You set the kick for 3.7 and vape; if something goes wrong with your kick, you take it out and take of the kick tube and you're good to go.

Not really, unless you are looking for a Locked 3.7v application. Would hate to throw a lr atty on there after vaping something much higher.
Watts keeps things consistent.

What just Spins? the kick module? If so, put a few rounds of tape on it.(avoid the ground pin)
My kicks were so tight in the Nemesis I had to hand sand 2 of them to get a fit. I can unscrew the top cap/atty and adjust and have it back together in under a minute.<if needed>

I have Kayfuns at 1.3ohm, 1.4ohm, (2)1.6ohm and a 1.8ohm - all vape the same off any given Nemesis/Kick combo. NICE

 

[regal55]

Not really, unless you are looking for a Locked 3.7v application. Would hate to throw a lr atty on there after vaping something much higher.
Watts keeps things consistent.

What just Spins? the kick module? If so, put a few rounds of tape on it.(avoid the ground pin)
My kicks were so tight in the Nemesis I had to hand sand 2 of them to get a fit. I can unscrew the top cap/atty and adjust and have it back together in under a minute.<if needed>

I have Kayfuns at 1.3ohm, 1.4ohm, (2)1.6ohm and a 1.8ohm - all vape the same off any given Nemesis/Kick combo. NICE

I had one kick like that where the ground pin was too long and a dremeled too much off. So I had to break out the Hakko soldering station and move the back pin out. These nemesis are fun to tinker with. But once set up right pretty reliable. My kick is advertised at 5w-12W but I leave it at the max 12W setting, I can't prove it but think the max is closer to 10W.

 

[crxess]

I had one kick like that where the ground pin was too long and a dremeled too much off. So I had to break out the Hakko soldering station and move the back pin out. These nemesis are fun to tinker with. But once set up right pretty reliable. My kick is advertised at 5w-12W but I leave it at the max 12W setting, I can't prove it but think the max is closer to 10W.

10w, possible. Could also be V-drop. My nemesis seem to need a good cleaning every few weeks to keep conducting well. Especially hte switch since it is fairly open to contamination.
We live in a very off gassing world now-a-days. Unbelievable what is floating around.