Protank II rebuild, harder than it looks?

[MacTechVpr]

...I always get 1.7 Ohms with this build.

this works VERY well!

Yeah Ruby's in the zone. If you like that resistance/temperature, you are too. For other juice/temp combo's you need to be able to target resistance. That's what I and other's comment about on the two threads I mentioned here. Getting what's right for you.

Happy Holidays!

Good luck.

 

[dekkert]

what size wire should i be using i went from 32 to 28 and 28 is so hot its heating my mod up?

 

[MacTechVpr]

what size wire should i be using i went from 32 to 28 and 28 is so hot its heating my mod up?

The happy medium of 30 AWG seems to be the way that a great many are settling on. Understand that there is an 8x difference (reduction) in resistance from 30 to 28 gauge. That is huge. It provides substantially more surface area for vaporization but more power and time to heat up.

The 30g wire is thin enough to be formed or torsioned easily (which I recommend strongly in other threads and describe). Simplest way to build an efficient proper electrical coil that fires hot fast the first time (a contact coil, microcoil). And 30g is thick enough that it can be resilient and durable to survive multiple dry burns and re-wicking without too much distortion. So it's kind of an ideal compromise. I believe you'll see it being used on every kind of device as a compromise, in some instances an advantage over the thicker gauges.

I personally have no favorite but gear the gauge to my resistance requirement. That varies depending on the equipment and the juice I'm using. But 30 AWG is what I most commonly use.

However, if you are intent on vapor and are willing to sacrifice the significant power requirements thicker gauges are the way to go.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

 

[Ray Lopez]

Updated rebuild tutorial for the kanger heads

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Definitely make sure you don't use too much cotton. The problem with new cotton users is that we like to treat them like silica wicks. But once the cotton wicks soaks up eliquid, they swell up reaaaaal fat. That can potentially cause dry burns or in less severe case, poorer vapor production. Chances are your first few big fat puffs were from you dripping it initially, and the drier hits came from the wick being unable to get enough juice subsequently.


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I usually fluff up the cotton, then roll it into a string, then make a flavor wick, I leave the silica wick inside the coil alone, this way I can do a dry burn on the wick and not burn it to hell

I saw a guy unroll a cotton ball into a sheet, tear off a poofy strip (a strip just a bit wider than the coil, then roll on end into a needle tip, then feed thru, then just pull the poofed cotton thru, I could have swore it wouldn't have worked...but it vaped like a freight-train and didn't leak/gurgle and no dry hits...

Vape Yo Face Off!

 

[Bunnykiller]

A smaller diameter coil is higher ohms? I'm using a toothpick to wrap, with 7 wraps of 30 Ga I get 1.8 ohms. That's good, but I'd like another wrap or two, more micro, but keeping about the same ohms or a little less is fine. So I should use something thinner than the toothpick?

the lower the gauge the less the length the higher the gauge more wire is needed... example a 3" fire hose 3' long holds just as much water as a 3/4" garden hose 50' long ... the ohms would be equal to the volume of the hoses

 

[MacTechVpr]

what size wire should i be using i went from 32 to 28 and 28 is so hot its heating my mod up?

The happy medium of 30 AWG seems to be the way that a great many are settling on. Understand that there is an 8x difference (reduction) in resistance from 30 to 28 gauge. That is huge. It provides substantially more surface area for vaporization but more power and time to heat up.

I mispoke here dek and sorry about that (I must have had a bit too much egg nog over the holidays). There is an approx 18 times difference in cross-section between 28 gauge and 32. I think that's what I meant to say in support of the idea of greater surface vaporization area.

I hope you've had a chance to try 30g wire. It's a happy medium for the Protank. I've been testing 29 lately in a number of builds and find it to have some of the fine attributes of 28 like durability and vaporization area (not as much) but not as demanding power-wise. Along with 30g, a good option to hit resistance targets between the points offered by 28 and 32 in the power tables.

I write about these subjects on the thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/486794-protank-microcoil-discussion.html and slightly more advanced micro coil themes. Hope you get a chance to take a look.

Good luck.

 

[ZeroOhms]

I use a 1/16" drill bit to wrap my 30g kanthal around 4/5 wraps and then twist some cotton through as a wick. Works great and I've built around 50+ this way and they all end up between 1.4 or 1.8 Ohm. Never had a single problem. Just practice, practice, practice and you'll get it.

Something I tried and worked great. If you have a cordless screwdriver that sits on its own (ones with large removal battery), insert the drill bit into the chuck backwards. This holds the drill bit while you are coiling. Use one hand to hold the leading wire and other hand to wrap. Much easier than trying to hold the screw and leading wire together.

 

[MacTechVpr]

ME <<<<< <jealous>

(I don't have one of those electric screwdriver thingies!)

 

[classwife]

Moved to Clearomizers from New Members

 

[MacTechVpr]

Hey Moody, nice to see you. Please tell these kind folks how helpful the two threads I mention at post #35: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rebuild-harder-than-looks-4.html#post11605592 have been. I'd love to see more folks get the mechanics of a basic build in place so they can move on to stuff like floofgoofer attempts with his above video on verticals without giving up in utter frustration. Half the experienced builders on the Protank vertical microcoil thread could never get it straight. And loose ends will not perform. Newcomers need to sort that out first to have success with more sophisticated assembly.

Have you tried the tension wind method I more recently discussed on the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/486794-protank-microcoil-discussion-31.html thread???:

I hope you're doing great Moody. Keep that line in the water.

Good luck! Happy Holidays.

Hey listen folks, I really did not write that…and I have no idea how it got there. Some mod must have thought that would have been seriously a goof. Now I'm sure I wrote something equally humorous but I did not call Rip Trippers FLOOFGOOFER. Just not my style. I swear a lot.

Just sayin'.