Provari does it make your tank setups better

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Mark Anthony

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Disagree with the first responder!

A hundred people said so, but I didn't believe it until I bought one for other reasons. There's something about the WAY the Provari provides the power that makes for a better vape.

Totally agree^^^^^ I think maybe we all may have been skeptical until we actually used one. I'm not knocking any other mods, mechanical or otherwise, but I do get a better vape with my Provari using the same tank that I use on any of my other mods. It's a matter of personal preference for most..... :toast:
 

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People will argue and debate about it, but many believe that the frequency of PWM (pulse width modulation) of the buck boost circuitry has a noticeable effect on the vaping experience. Subtle, but noticeable.

Most VV/VW devices use a 33.3 hz frequency. The Provari, along with a couple of Innokin products, use 800 hz. When observed on an oscelloscope, this results in a flat line wave; while the 33.3 hz frequency is a jagged sawtooth wave on the scope.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/488840-rattlesnake-effect-why-cheapo-vv-exception-itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/381232-provari-oscope-vs-vamo.html

If you had to make a guess, how many times do you think you have used this, and the Why Provari? link?? If you combine that with how many times others have used it, it HAS to be in the millions! ;) I think that probably would make it the most referenced link...of all time!! And probably no end in sight with the number of Provari threads currently in rotation! ;) Not sure how long it took you to put together, but has to be the biggest time saver ever. lol
 

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Ok so I went and read more of the other posts...
People fuss about the 33.3Hz pulse of VV/VW units, while some say the 800Hz units provide a better vape, if the general consencus believes that the 800 Hz is better than 33.3 then we can safely assume that direct non pulsed is even better than the 800 Hz units
and being Mechs provide direct non pulsed voltage.... Mechs are better than the 800 Hz unit
and BTW the scope reading for the Vamo Vs the Provari... yup there is a pulse wave showing up and if you set the trace speed to say .5 mS, the 800 Hz unit will show the same thing...
 

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I just dont understand.... how does an engine in a car make the tires perform better???

It makes 'em spin faster.

Wow, that was easy. :D

and being Mechs provide direct non pulsed voltage.... Mechs are better than the 800 Hz unit

I have no problem believing that mechs are better, or at least just as good, in that respect.

Of course, you're limited to whatever voltage your battery puts out at the moment, but that's a slightly different aspect.

if you set the trace speed to say .5 mS, the 800 Hz unit will show the same thing...
Have you tried this, or are you just guessing that the Provari has an unfiltered output?
 
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It makes 'em spin faster.

Wow, that was easy. :D



I have no problem believing that mechs are better, or at least just as good, in that respect.

Of course, you're limited to whatever voltage your battery puts out at the moment, but that's a slightly different aspect.


Have you tried this, or are you just guessing that the Provari has an unfiltered output?

cant afford a Provari for testing purposes... but pulsed is pulsed ;)
but I did try a Provari at a B&M with an RSST ( mine) and couldnt tell the difference
 

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Ok so I went and read more of the other posts...
People fuss about the 33.3Hz pulse of VV/VW units, while some say the 800Hz units provide a better vape, if the general consencus believes that the 800 Hz is better than 33.3 then we can safely assume that direct non pulsed is even better than the 800 Hz units
and being Mechs provide direct non pulsed voltage.... Mechs are better than the 800 Hz unit
and BTW the scope reading for the Vamo Vs the Provari... yup there is a pulse wave showing up and if you set the trace speed to say .5 mS, the 800 Hz unit will show the same thing...

Yes, a mech should have "cleaner" current than vv devices. I'm sure some will notice a difference between the 800 hz of the Provari and the 33 hz of many other devices. I don't notice much of a difference between my mechs and my 33 hz SVD. I'm fairly certain that in many cases the experienced difference is more imaginary than factual. Nothing wrong with that though. I feel a considerable difference between Gibson and Epiphone guitars where others don't, except in my one Epiphone that has been modded. The mod is purely visual, but in some way it made the Epi play as good as a Gibson :)

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I feel a considerable difference between Gibson and Epiphone guitars where others don't

And I feel a difference between my Stingray5 and my Sub Ray5: The Sub plays better. :( Gonna get that ray fixed. The Sub still doesn't sound as good, though.

Ok, back to topic: The difference between 33 hZ and 800 hZ is 29 milliseconds between two consecutive pulses. The difference between 800 hZ and DC is 1 millisecond between two consecutive pulses. So even without filtering it could be argued*) that the difference between an 33 mod and a 800 mod is about 30 times greater than the difference between a 800 mod and a mech mod.

*) Not that I would want to actually make that argument. But it could be argued.
 

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I'm gonna get a provari and a Vamo

And compare for myself!

It's the only thing to do

If you can save up the money to do it.

:lol:

Just don't leave them alone together. I got a Vamo to see what the VW hype was about. I'd only had him a week when I got up one morning and found him lying on the counter between two ProVari minis. He had a scuff on his screen. No joke.
 

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For me, the Provari makes my toppers perform better. For you, it will probably make them perform like crap.

So there you go, try basing a flame war on that. ;)

Okay. When adding emphasis to a word, italics are preferable to bold; using both is bad form. :evil:
 

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i got a 2nd provari a month ago ( zombie mini ) and everyone expected me to sell my first one.. a friend said " so your gonna sell me your other one right ... NO i said now i have 2 awesome devices that run your crap in the dirt...lol.. i love em and well have them for years without feeling they will break...i dont treat them NICE they are tools to me NOT fancy little cepters i flash abought. im not knocking anyother unit and i cant say it performs better than other mods i havent owned but i do have a vmax and a mvp2 and a mech and the provari beats them all IMO.. what was the op ..oh and yes it makes my toppers rock the best
 
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