Provari VV & VW ?

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SirSteve

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I'm sure ProVape has had this discussion more than once, they have to be aware that VW appeals to many people. They also have to be aware that the ProVari is a top quality device and that people like it in its current configuration.

As for that Zmax V3 + dna 20 + Vamo clone, I would wait for at least version 2, seems China likes to push new models out without doing extensive testing. If they get it right, and it does what it says for a reasonable price and has at least decent quality, they will probably sell tons of them. But that remains to be seen.
 

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    Who knows what Provape will decide to do in the future. In the mean time they are producing one of the best PV's available.

    Seems like everyone wants them to produce a 'one shoe fits all' PV, and sorry that isn't even remotely possible VV/VW or not.

    IMO sub ohm is going to become a thing of the past because of micro coils anyway, and who knows what will come along next. There is no way a PV builder can keep ahead of what RBA builders are doing .
     
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    Asbestos4004

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    I've enjoyed experimenting with coil building...vv/vw...all the new tricky stuff that comes out because I like to goof around. I smoked alot, 1.5 to 2 packs a day. When I quit analogs I was left with a lot of time to kill. I have Vamos and a few other mods and mechs. They all have loose or wobbly connections...firing problems...something "cheap"gooing on with them. it all boils down to not wanting a cigarette. So, when I leave the house, I take my Provari and a carto tank. It ALWAYS works. When the novelty of playing with stuff wears off, I still don't want to smoke. I'm glad Provari is what it is. I don't really care what else they do, as long as they keep doing what they're doing. It works perfectly for me...every time.
     
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    I'm sure ProVape has had this discussion more than once, they have to be aware that VW appeals to many people. They also have to be aware that the ProVari is a top quality device and that people like it in its current configuration.

    As for that Zmax V3 + DNA 20 + Vamo clone, I would wait for at least version 2, seems China likes to push new models out without doing extensive testing. If they get it right, and it does what it says for a reasonable price and has at least decent quality, they will probably sell tons of them. But that remains to be seen.

    They do testing they make something sell it when all of the complaints come rolling in they fix the problem and resale it to the same people. Its not China who is at fault they are making good money off of consumers who cant wait to throw money at them no matter how poor their track record is.
     

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    Who knows what Provape will decide to do in the future. In the mean time they are producing one of the best PV's available.

    Seems like everyone wants them to produce a 'one shoe fits all' PV, and sorry that isn't even remotely possible VV/VW or not.

    IMO sub ohm is going to become a thing of the past because of micro coils anyway, and who knows what will come along next.

    I do agree that Provapes is probably working on something, and no it shouldn't completely replace the Provari As I've said, it's a great device. But, with technology the way it is, it's not a question of one shoe fitting all. It's a question of producing a chipset that can do it all. People will all ways personalize/build mods to their individual tastes, wants, or needs. I personally will still always want a mech around, and other individual devices for looks, backup, size, or specific functionality. But, I would also like a mod that does it all! If a company could develop one, and keep it away from the cloners, they would take the vape world by storm. Since provapes/provari is currently one of the leaders, and rightfully so, why shouldn't we look to them to lead in this too? The provari is a simple to use device that will always appeal to a great number of people, but if it (or similar device) was offered in a vv/vw "do everything" reliable option, they would again set the standard for the industry. As they have with the provari.

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    What is so important about VW

    I got the vamo 3 as my 1st mod because I wanted the best bang for the buck dif, features so I can see first hand what's what before getting a next mod

    I used it in VW mode for the first few months and honestly between the evod's T3's,Carto Tanks, RBA's, and the Genesis
    I am adjusting between 6 and 7.5 and I'm changing wts just as much as I change volts

    So I changed it to VV recently and I am adjusting Volt from 3.6 to 4.4
    no difference in the amount of time Im changing
    Not that its a big deal to change any way

    I have been happy with the vamo for the price but the 510 threads are going now
    still works ok with carto tank ( a little wobbly but OK)
    but my IGO not so good
    I did want to do this till dec when funds would be a little better
    But I need something right now

    I cant see spending money on anything in-between except as in addition to but not instead of
    the provari I add warranty for 2 years plus any problem they have service
    and the Technology is supposed to be better a more smooth even draw

    I don't feel that I'm losing something in VW is just a different measuring system to the same outcome
     
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    What is so important about VW

    I got the vamo 3 as my 1st mod because I wanted the best bang for the buck dif, features so I can see first hand what's what before getting a next mod

    I used it in VW mode for the first few months and honestly between the evod's T3's,Carto Tanks, RBA's, and the Genesis
    I am adjusting between 6 and 7.5 and I'm changing wts just as much as I change volts

    So I changed it to VV recently and I am adjusting Volt from 3.6 to 4.4
    maybe its a bigger range so what no difference in the amount of time Im changing
    Not that its a big deal to change any way

    I have been happy with the vamo for the price but the 510 threads are going now
    still works ok with carto tank ( a little wobbly but OK)
    but my IGO not so good
    I did not want to do this till dec when funds would be a little better
    But I need something right now

    I cant see spending money on anything in-between except as in addition to but not instead of
    the provari I add warranty for 2 years plus any problem they have service
    and the Technology is supposed to be better a more smooth even draw

    I don't feel that I'm losing something in VW is just a different measuring system to the same outcome

    My experience exactly. I didn't want to spend all that money on a Provari and wind up with less features than I have on my $40 Vamo 2. More than that, I didn't want to spend another $40-$80 dollars on another mod that will look like crap and wobble in a couple months. I like straight, tight and reliable...simple is nice too. I've had the Provari for awhile now and it's still in the same condition it was when it was brand new... straight, tight and reliable. It goes everywhere with me. I'm not a Provari prude, but the thing works perfectly.
     

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    What is so important about VW

    I got the vamo 3 as my 1st mod because I wanted the best bang for the buck dif, features so I can see first hand what's what before getting a next mod

    I used it in VW mode for the first few months and honestly between the evod's T3's,Carto Tanks, RBA's, and the Genesis
    I am adjusting between 6 and 7.5 and I'm changing wts just as much as I change volts

    So I changed it to VV recently and I am adjusting Volt from 3.6 to 4.4
    maybe its a bigger range so what no difference in the amount of time Im changing
    Not that its a big deal to change any way

    I have been happy with the vamo for the price but the 510 threads are going now
    still works ok with carto tank ( a little wobbly but OK)
    but my IGO not so good
    I did not want to do this till dec when funds would be a little better
    But I need something right now

    I cant see spending money on anything in-between except as in addition to but not instead of
    the provari I add warranty for 2 years plus any problem they have service
    and the Technology is supposed to be better a more smooth even draw

    I don't feel that I'm losing something in VW is just a different measuring system to the same outcome

    Thank you.
     

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    H. Hodges:10679210 said:
    I seriously doubt it.

    Once the sales start to lag because the "Next Great Thing" came out, I bet they will change their minds! Look at Pure Smoker. Yes the Legacy is a really good mech, but they're a one trick pony without developing anything else to appeal to a larger populace. And they are currently closing shop. If they don't come out with a newer version/device, people will soon lose interest and float away; taking their money with them. The Provari is a great device, but it could be something more! The DNA 20 chip doesn't look like a good fit for the Provari due to it's lack of protections and other slight downfalls (it's not vv only vw). However, I bet someone is currently looking on improving the DNA 20 platform to bring it up to be a considerable winner. Couple that with the price point for the Provari, and there is sure to be a better device coming along soon. PROVAPES IF YOU're LISTENING: Keep giving the public what they want; a vv/vw mod on par with the ruggedness and reliability of the Provari, and they'll be as loyal as your current following!

    Puresmoker went out of business because the owner opened another VAPING business. So this comment by you is a fail.
     

    H. Hodges

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    It dose not need to be messed with it works just fine as it is. Their success is in providing a rugged well made mod with great customer support. If that formula works no need to mess with it.

    Did anybody ever tell Z that he should just stop at the zenisis or zatty pro just because it was a great device and good enough for most people? How about Steve Jobs when the Apple II E came out? I have never said or even indicated they should change their customer service, or the current Provari for that matter. AGAIN, it is a great device with rocking sales and an extremely loyal customer base. I am only suggesting they use the proven hardware platform for a "do everything" type of electronic chipset. Why does that seem to be wrong to everybody? They wouldn't be taking away the provari you currently love, that would be financially irresponsible for them. But giving another provari VERSION to appeal to a different demigraphic. And why not provapes? They set the standard once, why not again?

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    Haha, I know what you mean. I'm good with my Vamo and Kmax for now, but I would like to get a Provari someday. It would be nice if they planned a VV/VW model sometime. I agree with Mr. Hodges on this. Such a model would be extremely popular. Of course, it would probably cost $250 to $300. :2cool: JD

    Well Jimmmy, looks like it's just you and me man. Thanks for the support!

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    Did anybody ever tell Z that he should just stop at the zenisis or zatty pro just because it was a great device and good enough for most people? How about Steve Jobs when the Apple II E came out? I have never said or even indicated they should change their customer service, or the current Provari for that matter. AGAIN, it is a great device with rocking sales and an extremely loyal customer base. I am only suggesting they use the proven hardware platform for a "do everything" type of electronic chipset. Why does that seem to be wrong to everybody? They wouldn't be taking away the provari you currently love, that would be financially irresponsible for them. But giving another provari VERSION to appeal to a different demigraphic. And why not provapes? They set the standard once, why not again?

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    I guess thats why Provape is busy making one of the best mods and we are typing post this Sat morning They have it all figured out and we are arm chair CEOing. ;-)

    Maybe Z should of stopped after the Z atty series cause alot of the stuff that followed were not up to snuff. Comparing a Mod to a PC that is much more advanced is not a very good comparison.

    I do not see much on the market that is night and day difference compared to the Provari So I see no reason for them to change. IMO they still set the standard. .
     

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    I'm sure ProVape has had this discussion more than once, they have to be aware that VW appeals to many people. They also have to be aware that the ProVari is a top quality device and that people like it in its current configuration.

    As for that Zmax V3 + DNA 20 + Vamo clone, I would wait for at least version 2, seems China likes to push new models out without doing extensive testing. If they get it right, and it does what it says for a reasonable price and has at least decent quality, they will probably sell tons of them. But that remains to be seen.

    I'm with you, China seems to get it right eventually these days. So, I'll not worry about getting first runs or the pitfalls of coops and preorders. Everything is moving so fast that 3 months after a China product goes live it's widely available for a price that's typically lower than the intro.
     

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    The provari is VW if you have a calculator.

    I like VW sometimes but the whole set it and forget it thing is nonsense. Vaping a protank with a stock coil at 10 watts may taste burnt, take off the protank with your PV still set at the 10 watt setting and attach a topper say with an ss mesh set up and the vape may taste weak and you have to bump it up. Different coils do not act the same.
     

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    Once the sales start to lag because the "Next Great Thing" came out, I bet they will change their minds!
    Your idea has been proven to be wrong time and time again. Every new mod that comes out is called a "Provari Killer". Each one has failed. From the VMax to the ZMax, Evic, Vamo, SVD, Segelei, and a host of others long forgotten. Everyone gets excited to get the "Next Great Thing" and then the problems are exposed. None of those have improved on the Provari. It still holds the standard to which all mods are held against. And it does this without bells & whistles or variable wattage. Adding more features to a mod that customers likely will never use, or that will not significantly improve their vaping experience is not a sound way to make a better PV.

    People who purchase a Provari do not do so for the option of variable wattage, an OLED screen, a 3-button control, a puff counter, the ability to hook their device up to their computer to monitor their vaping habits, etc, etc. They purchase one because of dependability, consistancy, reliability, durability, and the piece of mind that should it break or fail it can be repaired for as long as they own it. Provape is not hurting with sales for the Provari. It's as popular today as it has ever been. It will always be popular even if it is not improved upon, which I have trouble deciding how it could be improved.

    So go ahead and buy the cheaper Chinese mods with variable wattage and bells & whistles. Buy 3 or 4. See how long they last. See how much customer support you get. The "We make cheap. We sell cheap. It break, you buy another" approach of Chinese manufacturers doesn't fit in the way I make a decision in what I purchase with my hard-earned money. I prefer buying something with the qualities that I listed above, and nothing like that will ever come from China.
     
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