Provari with tornado tank? How does this work?

[revmax]

Hello all

New to this forum but not to vaping, bought a pro-vape a couple of years ago and really like it, this is one of the forums i researched on before my purchase, replaced that with a pro-vari when those came out

I use, with this:

• low-resistance 510 atomizers purchased from the pro-vape online shop
• aw 18650 3.7 v rechargeables
• a pro-vari extender cap to fit those larger batteries
• Johnson creek 100% VG "red oak" domestic flavored e-juice, 18 mg nicotine

So, I have, to my mind, what is about the perfect set-up, but, question:

I keep reading about "mods" and "tanks" and so forth - not really clear on all of the terminology here, but apparently there is some of fancy appliance I can screw into the top of my pro-vari that will eliminate the need to periodically refill the atomizer drop by drop

Kind of leery of this - i used to have something similar for my inkjet printer that never worked very well, but anyway:

Is there such a thing? What is the best brand that fits or works with a pro-vari? Do these things actually work, are they worth it? ARe there pros and cons, e.g., its great if you're deskbound but not helpful if you vape while driving?

ANy guidance would be much appreciated

I'm not so into the "collector" or "hobby" aspects of vaping, i.e., I just find one thing that works and stick with that so that's the kind of advice I'm soliciting

thanks!

Max

 

[Tonybee]

You can use it but you need to order the eGO adapter for the Provari. It's on their site. What I have found better than the tank system is the smoktec mega DCCs (Dual Coil Cartomizers) go mine at madvapes.com. They hold about 3-4ml of liquid (use the thermometer shake down method to load them). But if you want to use the tank system just get an eGO T style atty (Type A or B) attach your eGO adapter to the provari and vape away. Hope that helps.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Or you could go with a classy S/S carto tank. The one in the pic is the smoke grey S/S VPX tank from nHaler.

 

[Tonybee]

Or you could go with a classy S/S carto tank. The one in the pic is the smoke grey S/S VPX tank from nHaler.

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Hows that working for ya? I have a tank from madvapes and the learning curve is up there...leaking and flooding quite a bit.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Tony - I have tried many tanks and I have to say I am super happy with this VPX setup. I even bought another. They do not leak for me. He has internal orings where the carto slides in on both top and bottom. I have thrown Boges, Iken Fusions and Iken V2's at them and all work great. The only thing I have changed is the dotting method for prepping a new carto. The hole punch does not seem to get enough liquid into the filler material for me. It could be my heavy long drags but I have taken to slotting them with the trusty Dremel. That little cut off wheel makes quick work out of slotting and it is easier than punching them. I slot about 1/3 of the way through the carto body and even with an opening like that the tank still does not leak. I am really happy with them and as an added bonus I think they look great. Happy vapes man

 

[revmax]

Tony - I have tried many tanks and I have to say I am super happy with this VPX setup. I even bought another. They do not leak for me. He has internal orings where the carto slides in on both top and bottom. I have thrown Boges, Iken Fusions and Iken V2's at them and all work great. The only thing I have changed is the dotting method for prepping a new carto. The hole punch does not seem to get enough liquid into the filler material for me. It could be my heavy long drags but I have taken to slotting them with the trusty Dremel. That little cut off wheel makes quick work out of slotting and it is easier than punching them. I slot about 1/3 of the way through the carto body and even with an opening like that the tank still does not leak. I am really happy with them and as an added bonus I think they look great. Happy vapes man

Hi

If you don't mind elbaorating a bit, this is the stuff that is confusing me... it sounds like you have to punch holes in things to use one of these or prepare or alter it in some way? Is that right?

So as far as I understand it, if you want to refill a pro-vari less often these are you options:

- tank (for this you have to use a hole punch in a cartridge - not exactly sure what a cartridge is or how they work - to refill my provari now i just pop the metal tip off of the atomizer and use the dropper to put in 3-4 drops of juice)

- Dual Coil Cartomizers (OK, this sounds like a combination cartridge/atomizer - so a cartridge is some kind of storage mechanism - are they replaceable or do they get used up eventually like atomizers? does it change the draw? Do they leak?)

Any advice anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

max

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

- tank (for this you have to use a hole punch in a cartridge - not exactly sure what a cartridge is or how they work - to refill my provari now i just pop the metal tip off of the atomizer and use the dropper to put in 3-4 drops of juice)

Cartomizer Tank= It's a tank that surrounds the cartomizer and the cartomizer has a hole in it to constantly absorb the liquid from the tank that's filled with juice- tanks vary in size from holding 1.5 ml to 5 ml. Leaking has been a problem but they seemed to have solved that issue lately. Depending on the size of the tank you can usually vape for 1-2 days without filling. As for punching the hole in the carto it's much easier and neater to dremel it.

- Dual Coil Cartomizers (OK, this sounds like a combination cartridge/atomizer - so a cartridge is some kind of storage mechanism - are they replaceable or do they get used up eventually like atomizers? does it change the draw? Do they leak?)
A cartomizer includes the atomizer and the cartridge in one. The stuffing surrounding the element gets filled with liquid.I recently switched from single coil cartomizers to dual cartomizers and they rock. Lots of TH and vapor and they take 60 drops to fill. VERY important that the first fill is done properly. On day 7 and have cleaned my carto twice and it's like new except it doesn't hold as much juice. Generally you don't have to refill a dc as much as a single. They eventually wear out though but the quality of the vape is considerably enhanced. I'll never go back to singles and my next step is to build a tank.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Max - I will try to help and hope I do not confuse you even more.

The Vari will run many different devices, add various adapters to the 510 connections and the options grow even further. With an atty (atomizer) yes you drop three drops and get about 7 nice drags depending on draw length and voltage setting. Add a carto (cartomizer) like a boge, Iken or smoketech and you now have about 1 ml of liquid in a wadding material that will get you about 40 nice draws. The carto is a self contained unit that has wadding and a coil and depending on juice, carto manufacturer, usage etc life expectancy will vary. I get about 30 mls of juice through a carto before I trash it. Now if you take that same carto and pierce the tube (or slot with a Dremel like I do) and slide it into a tank like I have in the picture you have 5mls of liquid that gets fed into the unit and drag count before needing a fill rises dramatically. As for leaking, the set up I have pictured has not leaked and I have two identical tanks and have tried several different carto types in them.

Welcome to ECF and Happy Vapes man!

 

[revmax]

Max - I will try to help and hope I do not confuse you even more.

The Vari will run many different devices, add various adapters to the 510 connections and the options grow even further. With an atty (atomizer) yes you drop three drops and get about 7 nice drags depending on draw length and voltage setting. Add a carto (cartomizer) like a boge, Iken or smoketech and you now have about 1 ml of liquid in a wadding material that will get you about 40 nice draws. The carto is a self contained unit that has wadding and a coil and depending on juice, carto manufacturer, usage etc life expectancy will vary. I get about 30 mls of juice through a carto before I trash it. Now if you take that same carto and pierce the tube (or slot with a Dremel like I do) and slide it into a tank like I have in the picture you have 5mls of liquid that gets fed into the unit and drag count before needing a fill rises dramatically. As for leaking, the set up I have pictured has not leaked and I have two identical tanks and have tried several different carto types in them.

Welcome to ECF and Happy Vapes man!

Hi live2ski and vapor eyes r

Many thanks for your kind welcome! I appreciate it and this has cleared up the clouds of confusion for me a great deal!

OK, so now I know what "atty" is... and a "carto" too... so it sounds like the best options really would be:

- smoktec mega DCCs (Dual Coil Cartomizers) hold about 3-4ml of liquid - those seem to be here: Smoktech EGO dual coils cartomizer1.5ohm

SOunds like I can just screw that directly onto Provari...?

- eGO "T style" atomizer (Type A or B - not sure what "T style" is or what difference between A & B are) but they're here: Joye eGo-T electronic cigarette batteries, atomizers and USB chargers

...and eGO adapter (sold on provari site) - looks like these are on this page:

Ego-T Adapter

Would I also need a cartride with this?


- cartomizer (like boge, Iken or smoketech) that has been "slotted with a dremel" (some kind of toolkit - found those here: http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-Tools-Hardware/b?ie=UTF8&node=229122) and then put inside of a tank like the "classy S/S carto tank" like the ones here: VPX Cartomator Cartomizer Stainless Steel Tanks

Is that about right?

THANKS!!!!!!!!

Max

 

[Liv2Ski]

Grasshopper you learn quick Enjoy the new hobby it is more addicting than smoking and I foresee a nice collection of cool gear hitting the old credit card! I look at it this way each time I buy another MOD or vaping gadget------I would have ...... that money away on smokes anyway!!! Enjoy

 

[Michael Curry]

Is that about right?

THANKS!!!!!!!!

Max

By Jove, I think you've got it!

You pretty sell summed up everything in the previous posts. On the question of needing a cartridge, no, you wouldn't need one. "Cartomizer" is jargon made of the two words "cartridge" and "atomizer". It basically combines those two pieces into one.

The 510 carto's are smallish diameter, same as a 510 atomizer in size, actually. Though it isn't a true necessity, I use my 510-eGo adapter on my ProVari when I run those 'appliances' as well. It goves me a place to thread on an eGo cone. The cone is basically an aesthetic thing with no actual function toward producing vapor. But in addition to making a nicer looking transition from the large size of the ProVari down tot he smaller 510 stuff, I feel that it might add a bit of mechanical support and stability in the event of a bump or (shudder) dropping of the PV.

The 510-eGo adapter is needed to be able to attach those EMDCC's for clearance reasons. Incidentally, EMDCC's rock. I have one that's still working and I know for a fact I have run over 90ml of juice through it. YMMV of course. It will hit around 1.5-1.7 ohms, so you will be able to use it anywhere between 3.3 and 4.0 or 4.2 volts on a ProVari.

 

[Credo]

Here's my favorite 'out of the box' large cartomizer:
GV VISION ExTReMe™ : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[Michael Curry]

Went for a coffee and thought of something here....

Seems from the original post that you are accustomed to using an atomizer and cartridge combo. As you vape, your cart eventually runs dry, and you have to refill it, right? In the tank configuration you use a cartomizer instead of an atomizer, no cartridge needed since it's built in already. The big difference is, instead of having to top off the cart or carto, the juice seeps in through the holes or slots in the wall of the carto, keeping it filled all the time. Advantage, of course, is that the tank can hold a lot more than a carto alone, so it's much longer between refills, and as long as your tank never goes totally empty before you refill it, it's practically impossible for you to ever accidentally vape your carto dry and burn it. That will significantly increase the lifespan of the carto.

For standard cartomizers, the 'standard' so to speak, is the Boge. CrystalClear Vaping sells them for a nice price - 15 for 20 bucks. LINK

As for the other question, which I totally missed before, once you fill the tank up, you're good to go for a long time. No further fiddling - so they're great for driving and pretty much anything else you do while vaping.

The tank would basically turn the tables... You'll have to recharge that 18650 a couple times to get through a tank of juice. And with an awesome battery like that - that is a bit of a feat! lol

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Atomizer- filling frequently but great TH and Vapor
single coil cartomizer- filling less
dual coil cartomizer- filling even less but better TH and Vapor than single coil.
tank + cartomizer- filling once every day or two depending on the size of the tank. Best delivery system if you don't like refilling and you can actually see when the tank needs juice.

 

[Michael Curry]

Hey Vapoor... Ever seen one of THESE?

Best of both worlds.... Turns this:

Atomizer- filling frequently but great TH and Vapor

into:

Atomizer- filling frequently but great TH and Vapor

I had seen them in the local store and was pretty skeptical. To the extent that I didn't spend the 2 bucks to try one. Then I read about them in another thread. Went back tot he store and grabbed one, tried it. I'll be going back for the rest of what they have in stock tomorrow.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hey Vapoor... Ever seen one of THESE?

Best of both worlds.... Turns this:

Atomizer- filling frequently but great TH and Vapor

into:

Atomizer- filling frequently but great TH and Vapor

I had seen them in the local store and was pretty skeptical. To the extent that I didn't spend the 2 bucks to try one. Then I read about them in another thread. Went back tot he store and grabbed one, tried it. I'll be going back for the rest of what they have in stock tomorrow.

WOWSER How on earth did you ever find these They look and act like a mini tank Mod/ Manual. Just tooo much to describe and only $1.50? Maybe I can cash in some of wifey's wine bottles and buy a bunch. Who would've ever thought and thanks for the link with the review.

 

[Michael Curry]

Actually, finding them was the easy part. The lady that owns the local vape shop brought them back from the recent vaping event to see what they were all about. I'm using mine with a 510XL atty and I love it.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

You guys get all the great stuff while we in CanucKnuckleland get the leftovers LOL. We have ONE brics and mortar place here!!!
Cheers and have a great w/e.