PSA for Provari users running HH.357's.

[SilentEcho13]

I live nearby Cisco, owner of Avid Vaper.

He brought to my attention that my HH.357 died because of my device (and he gladly fixed it himself, thanks dude!).

It turns out, the Provari has a slightly higher center post than it should have. Essentially, screwing on the HH.357 down to the VERY BOTTOM will cause the insulator within the atomizer to break. A good suggestion would be to screw it on until you make contact with the connector (you can feel it), then give it another 1/2-1 turn. Personally. I now permanently leave on a 510-510 adapter on my Provari as a safety precaution.

I can't speak for other atomizers, but myself and a few others have had a similar issue.

I thought I'd bring it up for anyone getting ready to spend $22 on an atomizer.

Live long and vape on.

 

[babemomlover]

This must have been what happened to mine :'(
I emailed them about it.

In the meantime -- can you screw the 510-510 adapter all the way into the provari and can you screw the HH.357 all the way into the adapter?

 

[SilentEcho13]

Probably is what happened :/

You can screwed the adapter all the way into the Provari, it's just a piece of metal so it wont hurt anything unless you're really forcing it on there. For the atomizer, screw it in to ANYTHING (including the adapter) just until it makes contact and gets a little snug.

My guess is that Hanna built all the components way too close to the bottom, or in a way where the bottom post can cause a half-short if it's damaged.

 

[babemomlover]

I've noticed phoenix bottom coils are the same way...
too tight and I get an E1/E8 error.

 

[atavanhalen]

If the provari connector can do that to an atty, something to keep in mind is that it is probably capable of doing the same thing to an adapter. Adapters are notorious for the rubber washer going bad. I know the provari has protection for shorting so probably wouldnt be an issue but that advice goes for any mod that does that.

 

[SilentEcho13]

If the provari connector can do that to an atty, something to keep in mind is that it is probably capable of doing the same thing to an adapter. Adapters are notorious for the rubber washer going bad. I know the provari has protection for shorting so probably wouldnt be an issue but that advice goes for any mod that does that.

Correct, check this picture out though, this is about as close to fully screwed on as i'll get. To anyone using an adapter, keep in mind that the post within the adapter WILL RISE UP HIGHER when the Provari's connector presses it up. The adapters aren't a solid piece, and are infact a two-piece unit.

Why even use an adapter if you're getting stuck with the same problem again?

Adapters are actually vented/slotted larger than the Provari's connector. You will get better airflow off anything that you screw into them, especially the HH.357. This atomizer's airflow is tight to begin with (to cause turbulence within the unit, as explained by Cisco), so closing off the airflow using the not-wide-enough stock connector can:
Reduce vapor production
Create unneccessary heat
Cause an early short due to an increased vacuum
Make your vape suck.

Quite honestly, almost everything I screw into the Provari loses airflow, ESPECIALLY the io6's. It's a great mod, but it's definitely not perfect. I hope Provape fixes this in the future by adding in an adjustable/spring loaded center pin to compensate.

 

[Sethenes]

Is this why i get this random pop that in my new provari and hh that feels like someone blasting air into your throat? I'm gonna try this fix and hopefully I won't get that again. It's pretty disconcerting. You wonder what just got blown down into your lungs. Very uncomfortable feeling.

About the spring loaded connector. I don't think that is a good idea, because juice can seep through any gap the connector has to be able to move up and down and get inside the circuit board.

 

[SilentEcho13]

Is this why i get this random pop that in my new provari and hh that feels like someone blasting air into your throat? I'm gonna try this fix and hopefully I won't get that again. It's pretty disconcerting. You wonder what just got blown down into your lungs. Very uncomfortable feeling.

About the spring loaded connector. I don't think that is a good idea, because juice can seep through any gap the connector has to be able to move up and down and get inside the circuit board.

I don't think this is what's causing the issue, because the Provari outputs a constant flow of voltage. I know what that pop is though, I started having them but ultimately they went away after some break in time with the HH.

As for spring loaded, I'm talking something like the new lavatube w/ego adapter. Connector is spring loaded/adjustable, but also is sealed completely from the bottom so no juice leaks into the electronics.

 

[brummyjon]

I'm not sure I fully understand this problem, but it certainly sounds like something they should fix before asking for the sort of price that suggests this is a premium product. Or am I sounding too fussy? I'm not sure that Mercedes Benz owners would be happy if the door didn't fit properly, for instance.

 

[SilentEcho13]

I'm not sure I fully understand this problem, but it certainly sounds like something they should fix before asking for the sort of price that suggests this is a premium product. Or am I sounding too fussy? I'm not sure that Mercedes Benz owners would be happy if the door didn't fit properly, for instance.

The center post on the bottom of the atomizer/cartomizer (part with a rubber o-ring around it) is what makes contact with the PV's 510 terminal. On the Provari, the terminal post that protrudes upwards to make contact with an atomizer's center post is higher than it should be, which can ultimately cause the atomizer's center post to be pressed up into the coil and internals of the atomizer or cartomizer, potentially damaging it.

ProVape should have taken care of this, I'm not really sure if it's widespread or isolated though.

 

[brummyjon]

OK, I think I understand now. I know plenty of people rave about these devices, but I also see quite a few posts with issues such as this, and error messages, and end caps that don't match the body. Maybe some I haven't seen, too. Seems a lot of things going wrong for something that costs, what, $160? Well over £100, anyway.

 

[SilentEcho13]

I'm happy with mine. I haven't had error messages unless I try to push a 1.5ohm unit at 6v lol. My end caps match perfectly, no complaints except for the center post. While this is considered an "advanced user device", they shouldn't use that as an excuse to allow it to be sold with such big flaws.

 

[Riverboat]

I live nearby Cisco, owner of Avid Vaper.

He brought to my attention that my HH.357 died because of my device (and he gladly fixed it himself, thanks dude!).

It turns out, the Provari has a slightly higher center post than it should have. Essentially, screwing on the HH.357 down to the VERY BOTTOM will cause the insulator within the atomizer to break. A good suggestion would be to screw it on until you make contact with the connector (you can feel it), then give it another 1/2-1 turn. Personally. I now permanently leave on a 510-510 adapter on my Provari as a safety precaution.

I can't speak for other atomizers, but myself and a few others have had a similar issue.

I thought I'd bring it up for anyone getting ready to spend $22 on an atomizer.

Live long and vape on.

I have had my Custom HH357 atty on my Provari for 5 weeks..... No problems

 

[SilentEcho13]

I have had my Custom HH357 atty on my Provari for 5 weeks..... No problems

Cisco mentioned that he receives an overwhelming amount of atomizers with broken insulators and half-shorts, and a good bit of the users were Provari users. Since they're hand assembled, yours must have an adequate amount of room between the post and the insulator, so vape on!

 

[DukeBlue]

I just ordered a couple HH.357's to use on my Provari. Thanks for posting this info I would have surely screwed them up knowing my luck and getting them on Friday the 13th.

 

[MonsterTKE]

I have had my Custom HH357 atty on my Provari for 5 weeks..... No problems

What is everyone doing with there provaris? The center post height should not matter at all, unless you just believe that every atomizer cartomizer etc, in the world has the same spacing and specs. The center post is your stop, not the outside threads. In a perfect world the outside and inside would match up, but we dont live in a perfect world.

Im assuming people are hitting resistance with a gap between the bottom of the carto/atomizer and outside threads, then trying to force it all the way down? Well derp... Imagine that, it broke something.

 

[R53_Dave]

I'm not sure I fully understand this problem, but it certainly sounds like something they should fix before asking for the sort of price that suggests this is a premium product. Or am I sounding too fussy? I'm not sure that Mercedes Benz owners would be happy if the door didn't fit properly, for instance.

The Benz dealer does not recommend Pep Boys parts for use on their cars lol. I've used many tanks (Smok, Line V2, vivi nova, GG's) and never had this issue. If the maker of the tank has the pin sticking out too far...well....I'd talk to them. It's not the ProVari's door in question here. It's a single after market tank maker. Care to name any more tanks that have this problem with the ProVari? ProVari = too high. Adapters = too high? Methinks Tank maker = TOO HIGH! Sorry to hear you guys are having a bad time of it. It just seems to be an issue the tank maker needs to sort out. If the ProVari was having issues with a large number of tanks I could see blaming them. This is far from the case though.

 

[SilentEcho13]

Yes this problem doesn't seem to affect everything, but I'm just sharing the information I received. Upon inspection, the provaris post is a bit higher than my lavatube, I guess enough to damage the 357 atleast.

 

[DukeBlue]

I've been using the HH.357 on the Provari for a couple days now with no problems. The 357 is the best atomizer that I've used so far.