Interesting that you mention that. I've been cooking my own "tobacco" (do notice the brackets) liquids with several different flavours and I haven't found that "ashtray" taste yet. I'm talking about Flavourart, about TPA's flavours (the M-Type has nothing to do with it and I feel like Tobacco Absolute really adds nothing special, and these two actually come from tobacco), about Paradise Vape, about MistEliquid that sells flavours from an American maker whose name I forget right now... So, my questions happens to be: not that I want that "asthray" feel all of the time, but how do I get it?