Pyrex RSST/Affordable RBA/RDA

[Wickeddeuce]

Hey everybody I am seeking all of your amazing advice and feedback...

First off has anyone received the new pyrex rsst? is it all pyrex or just the tank? looking at the images it looks like the bottom cap and center pin arent covered in pyrex... i hope it is pyrex, can anyone clarify either now or message me when they get it?

but now for the main point... I am within the near future (next pay period or the following) going to be able to get my first rba/rda. I am looking for the best one at the absolute best price. The cheaper the better... main reason I am looking into the Rsst. I probably wont be able to manage anything more than 40 or 50 at an absolute cap but would prefer to keep it under 30.

I am really tempted by the RSST style, an exposed wick with an air hole and a liquid reservoir beneath... Any or all help would be super. any/all suggestions are welcomed, and thanks ahead of time to all you great vapers...

btw i will probably check the classifieds to see if any of your suggestions are there before going to buy one new.

i like to save money, got my svd from a user here because it was more affordable than ordering anywhere else...

thanks ahead of time for the help...

 

[skakid812]

Just remember with any RBA you buy you will still need wick, wire, mesh, ohm reader if you dont have one, and a few other things. I just picked up a few RSST's because they are said to be very newb friendly. But I still need to buy mesh and wire which could be another 10-20 bucks.

 

[ConradM]

I just got my first RBA today which happens to be an RSST. For the same reason too, cost. Non pyrex though although I plan to grab one of those as well.

Made a thread about it today -
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-discussion/507033-just-got-my-first-rba.html

 

[Nikkita6]

The RSST is a good beginner gennie, but I have noticed that many vendors have dropped the price for the AGA-T2, like 101vapes.com ... I think it's $14.99 on their site. There are plenty of youtube tutorials for the Aga-T2, and the RSST.... the RSST wins for better looks, and ease.

 

[Sthur]

Bah no mesh needed use cotton and a micro coil. My rsst with it works great.

This guy shows you.

Cotton wick on an RSST - YouTube

 

[Wickeddeuce]

@skak i already rebuild my kanger coils, thanks for the word of warning though...

@conrad ive done quite a bit of looking and the rsst just stood out to me... but glass is a must... so waiting to hear back on the pyrex rsst...

@nikki thanks for the tip on the agat2...

@sthur was thinking of using silica... or a different wick, maybe cotton, but a little hesitant, am will it get burnt if i chain vape?

in general... is the agat2 good? is there really much of a difference at all in any of these gennies? or am i just searching for a glass tank?

and drilling the hole out... has anyone figured out where you start to lose flavor? what is a good size hole for maximum vapor and flavor?

 

[suspectK]

Agi-101vape-$10..RDA or genesis.

Edit-the reason the RSST is considered good for beginners is the insulated wick hole... I haven't had a short in rebuilding, so I don't know how valuable that really is. I would think the only added benefit is helping seal the wick hole better.

 

[Thrasher]

the rsst has several advantages - unlike the AGA the centerpost doesnt move ( i do not know if later versions ever fixed this) - the positive post is spring loaded and the insulator in the wick hole, this makes it very starter friendly.

later on whan you have a good grasp of how to set them up the springloaded post and insulator dont really mean anything and make no difference.

 

[ConradM]

the rsst has several advantages - unlike the AGA the centerpost doesnt move ( i do not know if later versions ever fixed this) - the positive post is spring loaded and the insulator in the wick hole, this makes it very starter friendly.

later on whan you have a good grasp of how to set them up the springloaded post and insulator dont really mean anything and make no difference.

The tank is also one piece with the bottom if that makes sense. Which means the bottom of the tank is plastic/pyrex. I don't personally know what difference that makes but a lot of reviewers mention it.

 

[Thrasher]

the tank is actually a cup you can unscew the whole thing and take the tank out with juice in it if you had too so yea the wick not touching the bottom of the metal tank will help a beginner out as well.( the wick will not short out)


for reference the RSST is a copy of the AC9

 

[suspectK]

The tank is also one piece with the bottom if that makes sense. Which means the bottom of the tank is plastic/pyrex. I don't personally know what difference that makes but a lot of reviewers mention it.

That prevents a short when using mesh when it touches base of tank.

Edit-like 30seconds late.. thrasher is the pro anyways.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

ok, and on the pyrex rsst it appears to be insulated as well, just not sure if its plastic or pyrex... but using cotton, or silica, or a non ss substance for a wick, if the wick touches the bottom will that short out the wick?

i really appreciate all the input... i just want to make sure im going to get something im going to like, and not be eyeing something else shortly after, i think then my wife would end me...

 

[retired1]

Moved to Rebuildable Atomizer Systems

 

[PLANofMAN]

The only time a wick can cause a short is if the wick is metal.

 

[NicoHolic]

It appears to me the "pyrex" RSST is still plastic for the base of the tank and the center tube insulation, and may still be problematic with caustic juices.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

It appears to me the "pyrex" RSST is still plastic for the base of the tank and the center tube insulation, and may still be problematic with caustic juices.

So with this in mind, I would probably do better to just get the agat2? is there a better pyrex/glass gennie out there that is reasonably priced or just downright cheap?

sorry to bold that but ive asked questions in the past and had get a kayfun sent my way...

i dont have that kind of cash to spend... so looking for something good, that is affordable

thanks all

 

[NicoHolic]

First, let me note I don't personally own any of these, so hopefully you'll get something back from someone who does. I did read all of Kidney Punchers T2 description, especially:

Note: We have new polished ends tanks from the manufacturer. We visually inspect each and every one of these before we send them out. These tanks are amazingly better than the previous rough edged tanks the manufacturer had provided us BUT there still MAY be slight imperfections in the ends of the tank. Please understand that at this low of a price, we cannot promise a 100% flaw free Pyrex tank. We have very high standards (which is why we replaced for FREE all the rough tanks previously purchased by our customers), but at this price point, we can't take any returns for Pyrex tanks because of a difference of opinion in regards to what is or is not an acceptable flaw.

Seems like one would be taking a chance with it. You'd also lose the beginner safety features of the RSST, such as the insulated wick hole and tank bottom. Perhaps the plastic RSST restricted to use safe juices would be a better choice?

 

[Wickeddeuce]

i appreciate the comment on the possible uh oh... but id rather risk it for a glass tank and have freedom to use what id like than get a plastic and have to restrict myself...

on a side note, while looking at aspects of the aga t2, i saw something about a washer & spring set to modify it to be more similar to the rsst for the center post... has anyone seen/done this? and is there anywhere to get them other than dfwvapes, or whatever it was referred to for less than 8 bucks for 2 springs and 4 washers?

i am not trying to be a pain just trying to spend as little while getting as most as i can... experienced vapers i come to you in my time of need... lol

 

[Nomoreash]

I've got both and both are good choices, especially considering the price. Overall I prefer the AGAT2 but it is a harder build with the figidity center post screw and it's not insulated which only matters using mesh, I only use ceramic wicks now in my gennies so being insulated doesn't matter to me.

For a beginner planning to use ss mesh I'd recommend going with the RSST, no hot leg to deal with and no shorts. If you aren't an SS person the center post screw isn't that big a deal once you use it a few times so it's preference.

The stock air hole in the RSST if they haven't changed it is super tiny, I think around 1mm so you'll most likely want to drill it out but that's not a big deal and some retailers will do it for you. I haven't checked out the Pyrex RSST but from what I've read the base is still plastic. If you absolutely have to have pyrex all the way around then the decision is made and no, imo there aren't any better choices for a gennie at the price point than the RSST or AGAT2.

I've seen those modifications to the AGAT2 center post but haven't tried any of them nor feel the need to. Yeah spring loaded is easier and I could see it if one was constantly messing with it but once the build is done it doesn't matter and imo the AGAT2 holds the wire more secure in it's stock setup. If you're getting one I'd recommend giving it a shot first before you go modifying, it's really not that difficult to deal with.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

thank you Nomoreash, I was planning on sticking to cotton or silica for wicks, so the aga t2 it is. the only reason the pyrex is a must is i like lime, lemon, cherry, i like the harsh to plastic flavors, and i dont want to use anything with plastic.

with the screw in and the aga t2 sitting on its side does it leak?

I am active duty in the army and will be using it on my svd, and it will be sitting in my cargo pocket most of the time on its side...

so from what i have gathered from the web, and this forum (you were a great help in pushing me to the aga t2) i am going for the aga t2 instead of the rsst...

thanks so much