Question #10

[Saintscruiser]

2 Thessalonians 2:6-10
New King James Version (NKJV)
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[a] who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


I finally found it! Okay, here we go. There is another reason that I believe in the rapture....comes from rapio meaning to take away suddenly.

When we become born-again, The Holy Spirit comes and indwells us. Look at all of the Christians worldwide. That's a lot of power coming through us Christians.....by prayer, casting out demons, healing the sick, ministering to the needy, etc. We are strong in unity. satan can't take over the world through the anti-christ (one man) with the Holy Spirit being so strong here. So when the rapture does happen, He who restrains will be taken out of the way. THEN, the lawless one will be revealed, meaning that we won't know who the anti-christ will be, because we won't be here. The 49th week clock starts back up. The time of the gentiles is finished. The Jews will go back under the Hebrew law once again. The Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem after the anti-christ makes a peace treaty with Israel. We won't be here to see it. After 3 1/2 years, the anti-christ will walk into the Temple and announce that he is God. That is the abomination of desolation. This was a difficult question. Shame on me for doing that!

 

[Fisheeboy]

I knew exactly what the answer was that you were looking for. Almost word for word. I just happen to not agree and therefore answered as I seen appropriate for myself and what I have come to understand.

 

[Saintscruiser]

If you knew what I was wanting, why didn't you answer my question and just say, "But I don't agree with this." Ya could have helped me find the Scripture! The word I was trying to find, Restrainer, came to me in a dream. Honest. You and I don't agree on quite a few things, and that is okay! We can agree to disagree. But next time, throw me a bone if you know what word I'm looking for. I thought I was going nuts!

 

[Fisheeboy]

Sorry about that. I'll try to interact with you in a better way. I need to be more mindful of others and more considerate as well.

 

[mightymen]

Sorry about that. I'll try to interact with you in a better way. I need to be more mindful of others and more considerate as well.

Your not alone Fish

me too.

 

[blondeambition3]

Anyone who denies God is the anti Christ.
So technically they're already afoot.

not religious btw.

I'm inclined to believe this also

 

[blondeambition3]

I it when we 'agree' to disagree and still one another.

 

[blondeambition3]

The "abomination of desolation" already happened exactly on schedule (Daniel's 1290 day prophecy). When the pagan Islamic Dome of the Rock and the al-Aksa Mosque were built on the temple mount, it made this holy place "desolated" or contaminated. This was built during the 685 to 705 AD period.


In 688 AD the Dome of the Rock was largely built and the Muslims were in control of Jerusalem. In 1967 the Israeli's finally regained control of Jerusalem after 2500 years. So the Gentiles (Muslims) controlled Jerusalem and the Holy Mount for 1278.48 years as this prophecy predicted.

The 'third' Temple that everyone is waiting for will be AFTER the thousand year Millennium, (When Christ and 'us' return).

satan will again be 'loosed' (for a short time), and those who suffered the FIRST death will be resurrected unto Judgement.

Here's the Scriptural reference;

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.[/QUOTE] -Revelation 21:2

satan, and his 'followers' will try to attack one last time, (Gog and Magog).... and then it's all over for them. (Rev 20:7)

 

[Saintscruiser]

Gog and Magog is Russia. The King of the North. A peace treaty is signed with Israel by THE anti-christ. (there are many anti-christians, but only one anti-christ.) Israel will begin to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. They are working on the exact apparel as given in the Old Testament, as I type. Where it will be built exactly, I don't have a clue. We think it will be at the dome because the 'wailing wall' is there. I would love to see the 'wailing wall.' The 'abomination of desolation' will be when the anti-christ goes into the Holy of Holies area and crowns/annoints himself to be god. satan has always wanted to be god and what better way to give god a raspberry than to defile His temple. This will happen at the first 3 1/2 years mark into the tribulation period. And if all hell hadn't broken loose already, it REALLY gets serious after that! The murdering of new Christians will almost become a sport, like in Roman times. Think of hitler and the Jews. That will be like Disney World in comparison. If Jesus doesn't come back (2nd Coming) when He does, mankind would most certainly annihilate themselves. I wouldn't want my worse enemy to go through that, much less spend eternity in the Lake of Fire. That is why we must tell the world about Jesus! If not us, then who will?

 

[Fisheeboy]

Gog and Magog is Russia. The King of the North. A peace treaty is signed with Israel by THE anti-christ. (there are many anti-christians, but only one anti-christ.) Israel will begin to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. They are working on the exact apparel as given in the Old Testament, as I type. Where it will be built exactly, I don't have a clue. We think it will be at the dome because the 'wailing wall' is there. I would love to see the 'wailing wall.' The 'abomination of desolation' will be when the anti-christ goes into the Holy of Holies area and crowns/annoints himself to be god. satan has always wanted to be god and what better way to give god a raspberry than to defile His temple. This will happen at the first 3 1/2 years mark into the tribulation period. And if all hell hadn't broken loose already, it REALLY gets serious after that! The murdering of new Christians will almost become a sport, like in Roman times. Think of hitler and the Jews. That will be like Disney World in comparison. If Jesus doesn't come back (2nd Coming) when He does, mankind would most certainly annihilate themselves. I wouldn't want my worse enemy to go through that, much less spend eternity in the Lake of Fire. That is why we must tell the world about Jesus! If not us, then who will?

There is absolutely no possibility that I can ever agree with this.

 

[mightymen]

I have time on my hands and like to tell you all a little story that is true.

Back in 1990 when I became a Messianic Jew/Christian, I use to go to Jews for Jesus for a one on one Bible study every week with Mitch who was the Director at that time. Being a new believer I read my Bible 24/7's wouldn't put it down. I was studying Revelation just like everyone else I wanted to know what was going to happen and when. One day at the Bible study with Mitch I told him, I've come to understand the book of Revelations.

He asked what do I understand, well I thought at the time the rider of the black horse represented the suffering of the black man(I was so sure of myself way back then)

Mitch looked at me and smiled never said a word and just pickup were we left off the previous week.

Mitch since then has moved on to become President of Chosen People Ministries.

I have much to thank the Lord for and Mitch is one of them.

I know now the rider of the black horse is differently not what I thought back than.