question about batteries and vape safe with mech mod

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mh1972

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Hi, hopefully this is in the right section.
I ordered a K100 mech mod, this will be my first mech mod.
Is the vape safe(2 cent fuse) the best way for protection?
Also I know I should use protected batteries, could anyone recommend any? I have read about bad batteries and don't want to end up getting some by mistake.

thanks for any answers.
 

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Wow.

OK. Ummmm....

Generally all-mech mods use IMR type batteries. They don't vent as violently if they fail for whatever reason.

Protected batteries WILL vent violently being Li-Ion. They have more mAh (hold more charge) but need to be protected. If the protection fails for whatever reason, and there's a short, they vent violently and release a lot of gas and swell. Adding a vape-safe fuse will add another layer of protection. So both the protection circuit on the battery and the vape-safe would have to fail. Or maybe there's a way for the battery to fail even if it doesn't blow the protection/vape-safe. IDK.

So I think it's best to use good quality IMR batteries and the vape safe. The vape-safe doesn't allow for super-high amps though. So you probably won't use it with some SLR setups. You'll have to compute the amps/watts to know.

I like the vape safe.

Try AW or Panasonic IMR batteries, IMHO. There are probably others too...so read up and research.
 

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Wow.

OK. Ummmm....

Generally all-mech mods use IMR type batteries. They don't vent as violently if they fail for whatever reason.

Protected batteries WILL vent violently being Li-Ion. They have more mAh (hold more charge) but need to be protected. If the protection fails for whatever reason, and there's a short, they vent violently and release a lot of gas and swell. Adding a vape-safe fuse will add another layer of protection. So both the protection circuit on the battery and the vape-safe would have to fail. Or maybe there's a way for the battery to fail even if it doesn't blow the protection/vape-safe. IDK.

So I think it's best to use good quality IMR batteries and the vape safe. The vape-safe doesn't allow for super-high amps though. So you probably won't use it with some SLR setups. You'll have to compute the amps/watts to know.

I like the vape safe.

Try AW or Panasonic IMR batteries, IMHO. There are probably others too...so read up and research.

Oh ok I thought I needed protected, I have IMR batteries already. I will get the vape safe.
 

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from what i've heard protected batteries won't fire super low ohm coils correct?

First of all, I'd like to "thumbs up" the excellent information that AttyPops gave. :thumb:

Regulated or processor controlled APVs will not fire a sub ohm coil. There's a good reason for this. Coils fired below typical low resistance are considered to be unsafe for the equipment and the user, so the processor will shut itself down and refuse to fire. Sub ohm vapors intentionally bypass this built-in safety by using mechanical mods to be able to use a sub ohm coil.

Sub ohm vaping puts a lot of stress on a battery, as high amperage is required to fire the coils. There is a very fine line of using a sub ohm coil and being able to do it safely. Being that Li Ion protected batteries are of a volatile chemistry and not designed for high drain demands, they can become unstable and heat up quickly, setting up a catastrophic thermal runaway event.

Li Mn IMR, or high drain batteries are better suited for this if you feel you absolutely need to go that route. They are more capable of providing short high bursts of energy amperage than Li Ion batteries can. This why most regulated mods require high drain IMR batteries for their boost circuits. And because their chemistry is less volatile, IMRs are less likely to explode, but merely vent hot gas. But this gas can be extremely dangerous itself and cause a terrible burn or start a fire. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html#post3265928

I have to say, I'm not a fan of sub ohm vaping. I and others believe this practice is dangerous, and its only a matter of time before someone suffers a terrible accident. No battery is totally safe, even with an additional layer of safety like the Vape Safe Mod Fuse. Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2 Even PBusardo has said about sub ohm vaping, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

I suggest reading the following article concerning RBA safety, mods and battery safety, etc. There's lots of important information in the links.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-tips-vapors-looking-try-their-first-rba.html
 
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