Question about cotton

[Sundodger]

You should really take more care when you mix juice! This is how I do it:

WHAT!!!! No hearing protection?

I use Sterile Rolled cotton, Sterile USP grade, good for surgical use as per the box. If they can use this to stuff into me or on an open wound I have no problem making a wick out of it.

Everyone boiling other cotton I guess is their choice, just remember if it starts out sterile and then you boil it you are introducing moisture that, while the water you use may be distilled unless you dry it in a sterile environment there is no guarantee that is is still sterile, especially with all the moisture you have infused into it. Sounds like a good place for bacteria and virus's to grow. I guess once dry you could micro-wave it for a couple of minutes and that might help, or maybe not.

I say KISS is the way to go.

 

[Ryedan]

(I **massively** echo the request for any chemists or industrialists to chime in here: if you know what you're talking about, we're just guessing, and rolling the dice with our health)

Don't forget that we are using extremely small quantities of cotton in our coils. Now, it could still be bad for us, but I suspect we don't have much to worry about. I would be more worried about hemp or cotton string that is not rated safe for packing inside wounds.

 

[stevegmu]

When I had emergency surgery 2 years ago, they packed my wound with silver impregnated foam, not cotton gauze.

 

[Ryedan]

If they can use this to stuff into me or on an open wound I have no problem making a wick out of it.

I took a while writing my last post (left it and came back to it) and you beat me to this point

Everyone boiling other cotton I guess is their choice, just remember if it starts out sterile and then you boil it you are introducing moisture that, while the water you use may be distilled unless you dry it in a sterile environment there is no guarantee that is is still sterile, especially with all the moisture you have infused into it. Sounds like a good place for bacteria and virus's to grow. I guess once dry you could micro-wave it for a couple of minutes and that might help, or maybe not.

I say KISS is the way to go.

And this is a good point too . And if people are not using distilled water, there are also likely chemicals in the water supply that are not the best to inhale.

<looking for that chemist that is out there somewhere>

 

[generic mutant]

Don't forget that we are using extremely small quantities of cotton in our coils. Now, it could still be bad for us, but I suspect we don't have much to worry about. I would be more worried about hemp or cotton string that is not rated safe for packing inside wounds.

The point is there is no data *at all*. Nobody has sucked on hot cotton for several hours a day, ever, and systemically recorded the results.

I'm not expecting someone to say "hello, I represent Brand Z Cotton, and we're safe!". But it might be that there are certain pesticides, or other residues, worth avoiding - and they might well be 'organic'. You'd need a biochemist to say....

 

[State O' Flux]

"Cotton... The fabric of our lives"

Considering we are not burning any of these wicking materials, and they are used only as a wick and retention medium... where the only contaminates are those which might be dissolved and absorbed into the e-liquid prior to atomization... I'll take my chances with cotton.

I've always lived life to the ragged edge, and at near 60, still here to make up tell stories about it... why stop now? ;-)

 

[Rickb119]

You won't get much helpful info on this forum concerning the dangers of cotton. If it is not as bad as smoking, it must be safe is the consensus.

Some may feel that way. Others of us prefer to use the word "safer". For most (if not all) of us, it's a learning curve. I've often said that "if ignorance is bliss, I should be ecstatic".

Several years ago I drank at least 1/2 gallon of diet coke every day, until someone suggested that I research aspartame. Haven't touched it since. When I first started rebuilding I heard about cotton. Tried and loved it. Now I'm learning (and believing) more about commercially grown cotton, and will be looking to source some organic cotton twine. I've also thought about trying organic hemp.

If you know of any other "safer" alternatives to regular cotton or silica (I don't want to inhale glass), I'm all ears.

Edit: All in all, it's still "safer" than smoking. I think.

 

[stevegmu]

I'm seriously starting to consider free range hand spun Alpaca natural yarn. Can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be completely harmless and should wick well.

 

[Sundodger]

Nobody has sucked on hot cotton for several hours a day, ever, and systemically recorded the results.

I'm not expecting someone to say "hello, I represent Brand Z Cotton, and we're safe!".

Cotton/gauze has been used for a long time on open wounds, exposed to blood and other bodily fluids with no harm. Ever had wisdom teeth removed? You will have cotton on the sockets until all the bleeding stops. Blood and saliva mixed, swallowing what has been in contact with the cotton with no ill effects. I've had my nose broken several times, after the third time it bled so bad it needed to cauterized, then packed with 3 feet of gauze. After 10 days they removed the gauze. The only bad thing was the bleeding resumed and it had to be cauterized again and repacked. This happened 3 times before the bleeding stopped. All the time cotton gauze in blood, saliva, mucus mixed, probably anti-bodies being present to ward off infection all the time on that gauze and the left overs draining into my stomach. No ill effect.
Not to go over board but don't forget that women use a certain cotton product monthly for several days in what could be considered a true test of safety.

I do represent Brand X Cotton, and can say it is safe. (I hope there is no real Brand X...)

 

[stevegmu]

Detrimental effects of toxins don't happen overnight, in 10 days or even years for some people.

You may want to do some research about the dangers of feminine hygiene products and problems many women have experienced before pronouncing them harmless.

 

[TruSound]

It's slightly amusing that vape heads that smoked cigarettes for 10,20,30 years or even longer are worried about whatever is on their cotton wicks, if you just remember for a second the chemical count in a cigarette the cotton fears will quickly pass.

 

[stevegmu]

It's slightly amusing that vape heads that smoked cigarettes for 10,20,30 years or even longer are worried about whatever is on their cotton wicks, if you just remember for a second the chemical count in a cigarette the cotton fears will quickly pass.

I find it amusing many who quit smoking don't care what's in their vape, as long as it isn't as bad as what is in cigarettes. Some of us quit smoking as a healthier lifestyle choice and don't want to ingest other toxins as a result.

 

[Sundodger]

Detrimental effects of toxins don't happen overnight, in 10 days or even years for some people.

You may want to do some research about the dangers of feminine hygiene products and problems many women have experienced before pronouncing them harmless.

I didn't pronounce them harmless. Yes some women have problems with certain products, most are NOT with the type of product I'm talking about. Most of the products you are talking about get yanked from the market pretty quick, not even in the same category as what I'm talking about. Being specific and not general feminine hygiene products would be a start, that's a large category of products.
Apple and oranges are both fruits but are not the same, just try making orange pie taste like apple pie.

 

[stevegmu]

I didn't pronounce them harmless. Yes some women have problems with certain products, most are NOT with the type of product I'm talking about. Most of the products you are talking about get yanked from the market pretty quick, not even in the same category as what I'm talking about. Being specific and not general feminine hygiene products would be a start, that's a large category of products.
Apple and oranges are both fruits but are not the same, just try making orange pie taste like apple pie.

Repeated and long term use of tampons have caused endless, well-documented problems with many women. Let Google be your friend.

 

[Criticalmass]

I find it amusing many who quit smoking don't care what's in their vape, as long as it isn't as bad as what is in cigarettes. Some of us quit smoking as a healthier lifestyle choice and don't want to ingest other toxins as a result.

Well, what's the point in quitting if you can't be healthier in the process?

Sent from my Astromech in a galaxy far, far away. The force is with me. so is Mr. chicken.

 

[Sundodger]

Repeated and long term use of tampons have caused endless, well-documented problems with many women. Let Google be your friend.

Google is not my friend, I use no google product for anything, I run noscripts to make sure.
You look it up, in all those products you claim harmed women it wasn't the cotton in the product, again you confuse the cotton in the product as being the problem, it wasn't, it was other things added that were the cause. My sister was one of those women and it wasn't the cotton.

 

[stevegmu]

Google is not my friend, I use no google product for anything, I run noscripts to make sure.
You look it up, in all those products you claim harmed women it wasn't the cotton in the product, again you confuse the cotton in the product as being the problem, it wasn't, it was other things added that were the cause. My sister was one of those women and it wasn't the cotton.

I have done a vast amount of research concerning cotton and the ill effects many have suffered as a result of the toxins released from it.

Oh, Ok, since cotton wasn't the issue for your sister, then it certainly hasn't been for 10's of 1000's of other women.


Ignorance is bliss, I guess, as long as one isn't smoking...

 

[Sundodger]

I have done a vast amount of research concerning cotton and the ill effects many have suffered as a result of the toxins released from it.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess, as long as one isn't smoking...

Zero points for name calling. So having done all this research how about some references for all of us that are ignorant. References to your research please.

 

[Ryedan]

This was a perfectly good (not to mention fun) thread the last time I checked in. What's with the pissing contest

 

[State O' Flux]

This was a perfectly good (not to mention fun) thread the last time I checked in. What's with the pissing contest

Time to go. If I wanted to step into an argument, I have a house full of women for that job... more than able to recall anything I've ever done, somehow to their advantage, for that past 33 years.