Question About Kayfun Lite + Performance

[Wern314]

I just got Kayfun Lite Plus and after a few coil builds I'm noticing that Im getting hot vapes regardless of voltage settings. I have decent experience on building coils and it is vaping good I'm just unsure whether this is a normal characteristic of Kayfun or am I doing something wrong? I mostly vape between 8-12 watts at around 1.8 ohms give or take. I figure it should be cooler at the lower voltage but it's still a little hot for my vaping enjoyment. I also want to add that I've played around with airflow adjustment as well. Any help on this issue is much appreciated.

 

[BigCatDaddy]

I would say you should be running at 3.1 to 3.3 volts. Go here to check where you should be running your watts.
Ohm's Law Calculator

 

[djsvapour]

I use Kayfun (lite/nano) at 8-11 watts no trouble. I also tend to make 1.6-1.8 ohm coils - that's just how they come out and I have no plan to change really.

Like BigCatDaddy, I often use an ohms calculator just to check stuff. On a VW mod I tend not to worry, but on a mech, yes.

Maybe there is something up with your build?

 

[Mechm0djunky]

The number one thing I check when I'm getting a hotter than normal vape, is to make sure my coil is not raised up over the air hole more than normal. That usually solves my problem every time.

 

[Mechm0djunky]

I will also add, 1 millimeter above the air hole is about where I like it. It is raised up enough where I can stick a small little bitty flat head underneath the coil.

 

[Baditude]

Just as Mechm0djunky said, coil height over the air hole plays an important role in how a Kayfun vapes. Higher height = a harsher/warmer vape.

Are you making spiral or microcoils? Microcoils are less likely to develop a hot spot or short which could cause harshness or a hot vape.

You didn't mention what wick material you are using. If using cotton, the amount and placement of your cotton is very critical. Too much or too little, or improper placement of the wick "tails" in the chimney can affect the vape. Also, you are using "organic" cotton, right? If not, the cotton can contain either bleach or hydrogen pyroxide and will need to be boiled before using it.

I've been building my KFL+ with a single microcoil @ 1.3 - 1.5 ohm so that I can use it on both my Provari and Silver Bullet mech. Voltage range 3.5 - 4.0 volts.

 

[Despraci]

Just to add what other stated. Height will help control heat. It aslso helps with airflow around the coil and up the chimney. Cotton placement can effect the same. My builds are .7 ohms but I place the coil across so the cotton drapes over the side onto the deck. So I get vert nice loose airflow to balance out the heat. Also make sure you airflow control screw is all the way open or take it out.

Also, some juices in a kayfun will naturally be a hotter harsher vape. Cinnamon fireball is just a bad idea in a kayfun at high watts. A cinnamon bun I keep at low watts as well.

Like Baditude I keep my coils simple In a Kayfun. The more complex the coil, I found it created other issues or while it did what it was suppose to, it changed another characteristic of the vape.

 

[Grimwald]

I'm pretty new with a Kayfun...just a couple of weeks. I have the lite with no airflow adjustment. I use a simple 1.8 coil on a 3.7v device.

The thing that I found was with the provided drip tip I got a concentrated "stream" of vapor, which could burn my tongue. Once I switched to a wider bore tip, the airflow and vape was better for me. Just changing the tip...sometimes long, or short, or acrylic, wide, narrow...seems to make a difference in airflow and concentration.

 

[tj99959]

I equate "to hot" with "not wicking". With a KF this normally means that your wicks are blocking the fluid channels.

 

[ewspears]

Hi!
Assuming that the wicking is good, (I like "Cellu Cotton which is Rayon);
I sometimes open up the airflow to vape above 11 watts!

 

[djsvapour]

Hi!
Assuming that the wicking is good, (I like "Cellu Cotton" which is Rayon);

This is my next experiment. ebay seems likely for me - where do you get it in the US?

 

[DingerCPA]

I was having some issues with my new KFL clone. Found it was all about wicking. I had one wick that was too much, and one that was way too sparse (wick burnt in half and couldn't help but get burnt hits ) It's touchy, but I'm starting to get the hang of it. You can too.

 

[ewspears]

Any beauty shop supply!

This is my next experiment. ebay seems likely for me - where do you get it in the US?

 

[djsvapour]

Any beauty shop supply!

LOL

ebay it is then..

 

[Wern314]

I wanna thank everyone for their feedback. To clarify I've been using 28 ga kanthal microcoils, 10 wraps which comes out to be 1.8 ohms on my Vamo v5. I'm using organic cotton for wicking. After watching a few YouTube vids on Kayfun setup I have my coil lining up with the fluid channel, tails droop over into each channel and I pushed close to the deck. After reading some replies I've noticed that my coil is raised a little high above center airflow so that may have a lot to do with it. I am fairly new to cotton wicking and I'm still working on that happy balance of not to tight but not to loose. I'm going to build a new coil and set it up closer to center airflow and I will let everyone know if I get better results. Thx again.

 

[Mechm0djunky]

For the longest time I kept using too much cotton. Less is definitely more when it comes to particular atomizers, especially the fogger and taifun which I actually had out with me
today.

 

[jaxgator]

I just recently began building coils on a Kayfun 3.1 and found this tutorial by Bronze to be exceptional. Every build I have made with this has been good. However, I will also add that building a Navy Nest improved my quality of vape immensely.

 

[Wern314]

Ok so after trying a few new coil builds and much tweaking I've come to realize that it wasn't about being a hot vape but rather a thunder throat hit from the juice I'm using. Lol. I've just never had anything compare to the throat hit I'm getting on the Kayfun it kicks my .... Lol. I use V2 Cigs menthol eliquid I've been hooked on it ever since I first started vaping and haven't found any other menthol that tastes like theirs does. I assume it has A high pg ratio, it's a very thin juice and doesn't give off much cloud vapor. I haven't experimented with many other brands like I should be but I've put in some orders for other brands with different pg/vg ratios. Boy does the Kayfun blast you with flavor. I'm using a EHPro Kayfun Lite Plus V2 Duil Airflow Clone to be specific and even though I've removed both airflow screws the draw still seems tighter than I think it should be. I figured it would be super airy with having both screws out but it's not at all. Maybe that's the way it's supposed be for all I know. I'm going to watch more YouTube vids to see how others set it up.