Question - Creating that "rich" and dense, quality mixture

[icemanx3]

Hello DIYers. I was wondering if anyone has luck with their juices having that real quality and rich flavor?

What I mean is, let's say, tobacco blends from AVE just as an example. Obviously I am not trying to create my own boba's, but how the heck do you think they make their juices so rich and wonderful, if that makes any sense.

Thank you,

ice

 

[silkakc]

Ice,

I've found that if I add 2 things to every recipe, it makes them taste rich and complex and dreamy. The 2 things are Perfumer's Apprentice Bavarian Cream and PA's Sweetener. They round out every recipe now that I make. In 6 ml bottles, I add 4 drops of each to every recipe I try. It makes them *taste* and *smell* like an expensive bought juice Bavarian Cream is so gentle/bland on it's own but adds such amazing depth to every dominant flavoring you add to it.



Lori

 

[icemanx3]

Ice,

I've found that if I add 2 things to every recipe, it makes them taste rich and complex and dreamy. The 2 things are Perfumer's Apprentice Bavarian Cream and PA's Sweetener. They round out every recipe now that I make. In 6 ml bottles, I add 4 drops of each to every recipe I try. It makes them *taste* and *smell* like an expensive bought juice Bavarian Cream is so gentle/bland on it's own but adds such amazing depth to every dominant flavoring you add to it.



Lori

YAY!!!!!!! Now that's the kind of info I like to learn about! Thank you sooooo much! I've got to try this. Would you suggest sweetner and Bavarian Cream from Perfumer's Apprentice only, or do you think The Flavor Apprentice would work in a similar way? I ask because I just bought Flavor Apprentice sweetner, and I wanted to place another order with OSDIYS for some PG, and they don't carry PA.

You are so very helpful, as is the ECF community. I just love it!

Regards,

ice

 

[djbishybish]

Perfumer's Apprentice and Flavor Apprentice are the same company.

 

[Tasteles]

Perfumer's Apprentice was the original name, they have since created Flavor Apprentice to try to seperate flavoring from their perfuming supplies...

 

[icemanx3]

Perfumer's Apprentice and Flavor Apprentice are the same company.

Well that's great news then, I've got all the right stuff! Thank you for clearing that up!

ice

 

[dripdaddy]

If you are mixing tobacco flavorings, try a little few drops of EM (Ethyl Maltol) or premixed EM sold as Cotton Candy flavor. Many people find that it helps to knock down strong flavorings and helps to round them out.

 

[salemgold]

I actually like marshmallow to sweeten rather than EM. I also like a few drops of condensed milk (FA) or sweet cream to get that rich taste. Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (PA) is another rich flavor if you want a hint of vanilla

 

[phonedude]

Ice,

I've found that if I add 2 things to every recipe, it makes them taste rich and complex and dreamy. The 2 things are Perfumer's Apprentice Bavarian Cream and PA's Sweetener. They round out every recipe now that I make. In 6 ml bottles, I add 4 drops of each to every recipe I try. It makes them *taste* and *smell* like an expensive bought juice Bavarian Cream is so gentle/bland on it's own but adds such amazing depth to every dominant flavoring you add to it.



Lori

Thanks for sharing that. I have often needed just a little something extra. Now I have to order more supplies.

 

[MaxUT]

I actually like marshmallow to sweeten rather than EM.

Marshmallow works well for eliminating the 'dry' taste you sometimes get with tobacco flavors.

 

[silkakc]

YAY!!!!!!! Now that's the kind of info I like to learn about! Thank you sooooo much! I've got to try this. Would you suggest sweetner and Bavarian Cream from Perfumer's Apprentice only, or do you think The Flavor Apprentice would work in a similar way? I ask because I just bought Flavor Apprentice sweetner, and I wanted to place another order with OSDIYS for some PG, and they don't carry PA.

You are so very helpful, as is the ECF community. I just love it!

Regards,

ice

Thanks Ice
You know what I use for an easy base? That Bav Cream + Flavour Arts Cookie + Sweetener. You can put virtually anything else with it and it tastes divine! Any fruit, any nut or any spice. I've tried Pineapple, coconut, caramel and maple as the 4th flavor and they all tasted like real bought juice!

For 6 ml, I use 4 drops Bav Cream, 4 drops sweetenr, 6 drops Cookie and 6 drops "anything"

 

[donnah]

where can I find the flavour arts cookie? I went to onestopdiy but the shipping was $6! Is there a cheaper place?

 

[ByStander1]

where can I find the flavour arts cookie? I went to onestopdiy but the shipping was $6! Is there a cheaper place?

ecigexpress carries Flavour Art flavorings at a great price (don't remember about shipping though)

 

[MaxUT]

My last order from Ecigexpress (6/4/11) was shipped Priority mail and cost was $5.99.
I used code VPZECX for 5% discount.

My last order from Liberty Flights (also 6/4/11) was shipped first class mail and was $2.99.
Cost per 5mL bottle of non-tobacco FA flavoring was $2.31 with the site's 20% discount.

So LF would probably be the best bet if all you needed was one or two small bottles.

 

[icemanx3]

I made a simple 18mg cantaloupe today with a few drops of bav cream and it's totally awesome and vapeable without steeping!! I bet in a couple days it will be even better! Thanks so much for the tips on using bav cream!! Incredible!! Can't wait to try more!!

ice

 

[MaxUT]

Ice, was it PA Cantaloupe and what percentage of flavor did you use?

 

[donnah]

Thanks! I ordered from ecigexpress.. got a 10ml bottle of FA cookie for $6 shipped (with the 5% discount code ecfforum) I regularly order from LF but 10ml plus shipping would have been more than $6

I also added some bavarian cream to my caramel tobacco plus a little sweetener and I like it a lot better! I can't wait to try it with other juice too! I did make up some chocolate fudge brownie (capella) and added some bavarian cream and it really smoothed it out. Thanks for the tip!

 

[icemanx3]

Ice, was it PA Cantaloupe and what percentage of flavor did you use?

Yes, the flavor apprentice cantaloupe.

I'm pretty sure I have the save file. I'll have a look. I made a bannana tobacco later today using a bunch of PA ripe banana, some PA tobacco blend, and once again some PA bav cream. It's the most explosive, face full of flavor I've ever experienced. I am so excited right now.

PA = the flavor apprentice

ice

 

[zoiDman]

Banana is also a flavor you should have in your toolbox. Give a Creamy-Sweet taste and adds body to "Flat" mixes.

 

[phonedude]

Banana is also a flavor you should have in your toolbox. Give a Creamy-Sweet taste and adds body to "Flat" mixes.

Thanks, getting a pretty good order list compiled here.