Question for EGO Twist users
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I noticed that on one of my two "visions", as well. Mine are 2.4 ohms. You might like the vivi Nova 2.5 better than the visions. At altsmokes they sell it with your choice of 3 replaceable atomizer heads, included. You could order it with a 1.8, 2.4, 2.8 to try them out. To me, it seems to be a better made piece of equipment.
Honestly, I can't stand clearomizers, so I just use cartos I get from value vapor. They seem to stay less hot then the others I've tried. Well the green colored ones do anyway, the others I've had from them are junk.
I usually have my twist set between 4.0 - 4.2 (any higher and sometimes get a burned taste, depending on the juice)...also higher means the juice goes faster. With the low resistance clearos and cartos I sometimes turn it lower to 3.6 ish for the best taste. Alot seems to depend on the juice as some just taste better at a lower setting and some at higher setting
I love the fact that I can experiment with the twist settings!
I love the fact that I can experiment with the twist settings!
Thanks for all of your advice and comments. The clearos I purchased were 2.4 ohms so I guess those should work quite well. I checked out the Vivi Novas. I may order one to try at home but it is just makes for too big of a "contraption" for me to feel comfortable with in public. To be honest, the 1000 twist with a clearo is pushing it for me.. I did look into the Vivi mini. Are they pretty much the same as the V2 Visions?
Best resistance on the head depends on where you like to vape. With a 3.0 ohm carto for example, you will only be able to push the wattage to about 7.7 (that may very well not be a problem, but bears mentioning). It will be easier on the battery...it's counterintuitive, but higher volts and higher resistance is more efficient and easier on battery life at any given wattage.
With a 2.0 ohm head, you will have a greater range with this particular device: up to about 11.5 watts, and you're not likely to want to go any higher, if even that high. However, at the same 7.7 watts on a 2.0 ohm cartomizer, you're going to be turning the device to about 3.9 volts and using a lot more battery juice (2.4 amp draw versus drawing 1.6 amps on the higher resistance head. Your batteries will last a lot less time at any given wattage.
Hopefully I didn't make that too confusing.
This assumption that higher voltages are easier for battery is wrong. Sorry. Yes, with higher voltage we need lower amperage to get the same wattage. But if there is a voltage increasing circuit between battery and the coil the electric current in battery will be not the same as current in battery. It will be proportionally higher. Because of energy conservation law of physics.
If you were right then using 3000 ohm atty and 4800 volts (this is possible to build a VV battery like this, why not?) we would have thousand times lower amperage with the same wattage. eGo battery would work a year after one charge. Make voltage ten times higher and eGo battery would drive an electric car.
After not having the Twist for 2 months, then getting and using the Twist for a month, im not finding any big deal...maybe its me. I feel the standard batteries work well with the manufactured products resistance, unless, they happen to be badly off.
I agree with you that it is the small sleek size and look of the V2-V3 Ego Vision Clearomizers that is important to me - all the other types I've seen so far in rebuildables are too large and don't look as nice. I also think that the 650mah Twists are the best way to go - they are no longer than the old Ego batteries, or the KGO's, yet are quite light. If you carry two of those (most usually want to have a spare for backup anyways), they will easily last you a whole day of intense vaping. Or, as I recommend to some newbie friends, carry around one 650 mah Twist and one shortie Ego-C 650 mah; you get almost the same intensity of inhale on the Ego-C if you just press the button a second before you start inhaling, and inhale for a second or two longer. Then you have one powerhouse, and one very short battery that will be less obtrusive in certain public, or stealth vaping, situations. And, for simplicity, both work very well with the 2.1-2.4 Visions.
Hey @jimrug1 Here's something that can help you figure things out with your watts/volts/ohms and such. This calculator has a section where you can plug in your volts and your ohm and determine the watts you'll get. Most seem to like between 6 and 8 watts for the "sweet spot".
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp#power
http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp#power
1) Vivi mini + cool collar both from gotvapes looks slick on an Ego black bat-- I know cause I use that. The vivi 2.5 is for home... The mini is best leak proof device you will get... Mini with collar: (looks better IRL)
eGo Thread Sleeve Type D Small Tank - Fits All Std eGos CHROME [gv-egoTYPED-SmallTankeGoThreadSl] - $2.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
The vivis DO NOT LEAK! No other clearo can say that... Stardusts can leak, bottom coils, tops coils, fluxomizers... Get a few, toss them in a pocket and you are gtg. Can replace the heads/rewick with cotton wicks-- 3 ohm rating heads to select from (gotvapes has a 4th 3.2 ohms kinda wasted on the twist). Buy just one to try out--end game item.
2) I got all caught up in ohms at first too... It depends of your juice, juice thickness, and how you like the warmth. Low volts=cooler... I can't stand a high heat vape all day... Just twist to find your spot--no real formula...
eGo Thread Sleeve Type D Small Tank - Fits All Std eGos CHROME [gv-egoTYPED-SmallTankeGoThreadSl] - $2.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
The vivis DO NOT LEAK! No other clearo can say that... Stardusts can leak, bottom coils, tops coils, fluxomizers... Get a few, toss them in a pocket and you are gtg. Can replace the heads/rewick with cotton wicks-- 3 ohm rating heads to select from (gotvapes has a 4th 3.2 ohms kinda wasted on the twist). Buy just one to try out--end game item.
2) I got all caught up in ohms at first too... It depends of your juice, juice thickness, and how you like the warmth. Low volts=cooler... I can't stand a high heat vape all day... Just twist to find your spot--no real formula...
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I only have 1 1000mah twist and 2 1000mah standard ego batteries so I still try and get stuff that will work on both setups. I like to get 1.8-2.2 ohm cartos and on the twist I turn the volts up to about 4.2-4.4V
That's a good point, and one that hadn't occurred to me. The way I stated it assumes the battery itself is delivering the voltage unaided by the boost circuit - not the case with the Twist. Any idea how to calculate the actual amp draw when you boost a nominally 3.7V battery up to, say, 4.5 volts at any given resistance?
ETA: I missed that you said "proportionally". Is it proportional? Would a 10% increase in output voltage increase the amp draw 10% at the same resistance? You have me genuinely curious now....
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I guess the rule is simple, the wattage consumed by the coil (Ec*Ic) should be equal to the wattage produced by the battery (Eb*Ib) (well, minus some energy loss in the circuitry). So if battery voltage Eb is, say, 3.7v and the voltage on the coil is, say, 4.0v with the 2Ohm atty, then Ic=2A and Ib=Ec*Ib/Eb=4*2/3.7=2.16A.
Thanks so much fourthrok... Looks like an interesting calculator. I will play with it and see what I come up with....
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Geez Antoly.. A lot of formulas here... Almost makes me want to pick up an analog and just light it... Ha.. Just kidding but seriously.. Do I have to understand all of the above to be able to push a button and vape?? Simple is my middle name... ;-)
<--- Nic Nic Nic... Pounding my head against the wall.. I forgot my original question... ;-)
Sorry, Jim...didn't mean to hijack your thread. No, you don't have to do any math to vape! You can look it up in the chart someone posted. I'm just trying to make sure that the advice I gave you (higher volts and ohms are going to result in a battery charge lasting longer) is true.
Rick.. No worries... wasnt trying to imply that. I got some good info from you. Just venting the confusing aspect of all this to a newbie .. Feel free to post anything you want here. All comments, advice opinions welcome .... ;-)~
I have a 900mAh twist and i find that i use it at 3.4 - 4.2 volts most of the time. The only time i go over 4 volts is when i am using the 2.8 ohm head on one of the vivi novas that i own. All the other devices i have are standard res and i usually run them at normal ego voltages 3.4-3.8 volts. Am still fairly new to vaping and trying to figure stuff out also, now i do understand a lot of the electrial formulas that go along with the ohms and watts ans amp its just Ohms Law(i took electronics in hs and did them in the navy many years ago).
The best advice i can give is to just experiment and play around with things till you find what you like. I do have to add that i have several kinds of clearomizers vivi novas, stardust ,and ce2s all rebuildables and the vivi's are my favorites.
The best advice i can give is to just experiment and play around with things till you find what you like. I do have to add that i have several kinds of clearomizers vivi novas, stardust ,and ce2s all rebuildables and the vivi's are my favorites.
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to ya, im kinda new to the forum. So I use an atomizer, specificly an eGo C atty. It's like a self dripping system. I had to learn how to draw on it or it can flood out pretty easily and you may think it's leaking but it's not. When you pull of a cigarette, the harder you pull the more of a hit you get. With the atomizer, you let the system do the work and just slowly pull on it. If I start to hear a girgle sound then I hit the button a couple of seconds before I draw on it to let the juice burn up.
Joye eGo-C the next in the evolution of Joye e-cigarettes
here is a nice explanation with pictures! I get such great taste and flavors, I think it's because there is very little wick system to it. I also clean out my atty head to make it last longer. I got one head to last me 2 months before and this is using the Twist at full 4.8 volts! I hate wasting money.
Joye eGo-C the next in the evolution of Joye e-cigarettes
here is a nice explanation with pictures! I get such great taste and flavors, I think it's because there is very little wick system to it. I also clean out my atty head to make it last longer. I got one head to last me 2 months before and this is using the Twist at full 4.8 volts! I hate wasting money.
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