Question: Is it the lower the ohms, the more juice u will use, and vica versa?????

[The Don Mega]

I'm really not into the electrical part of this, but I am trying to learn. I just thought of this question and knew there had to be a ton of brilliant vapers (and I'm not throwing the word around lightly. There def r BRILLIANT vapers) vapers out there that know the answer. If I put the same exact juice, uh 3.0mL in a 1.8 ohm clearo and a 2.5 ohm clearo, which clearo would run out of juice first, and why? I think there has to be a standard x number as the volts. Would 4V be a good voltage to use as the standard number? Any answers to me, in this, are not stupid answers. It is someone helping to pass along their knowledge to someone who doesn't have the good answers at the moment. I would think it is the 2.5 ohm clearo since it needed more of those 4V's for a longer time to get a satisfactory vape. Def could be wrong with that statement, so don't beat me up over it. Just correct me, please. Like I said, I don't know a whole lot about this stuff. I'm sure I was the same way as 95% of u were when u were taking this little stroll down to vaping Lane the first time. Popping your vaping cherry (hahaha, you could've been vaping a cherry flavor your first vape. Isn't it ironic, don't u think? lol) I enjoyed the stick battery and cartomizer before. Just screw on a new carto and you're good to go. When it runs low, stick on a new cartomizer. Done! No need to fuss with voltage or power, leaking, the newest tanks and atty's and all the other stuff coming out every single day (A LITTLE MIND-BLOWING TO THOSE JUST STARTING). I, personally, have been upping my vaping experience, lately, and would love to gain some more knowledge into how this stuff works like that. What do you guys say? First, is 4V the right voltage to run this test on these resistances? Second, which clearo would run out of juice first? And third, why did the juice run out faster than the other clearo? OR, do they run out at the same time????? Obviously, they would have to vaped at the same vape-rate for each clearo. So it couldn't be done by 2 different people that have no where near the same vaping habits, with one taking a vape every 2 mins, while the other has already vaped 8 times in that 2 mins. Just a little food for thought and a discussion to be started. I am very curious as to what people are going to say about this. Mentioned before, I am ignorant when it comes to these type of "electrical" things but will love to further my knowledge into the subject. Thanks everyone for reading, and let the discussion begin.....if there is even one to be had. Hope its not a {blah, blah, blah} and everyone else says the same exact thing and I feel REALLY stupid. Haha. Well, in this weird world of vaping, there are a lot of questions that may seem stupid to u but can help myriads of others, and I hope this is one of those discussions. Take care, everyone!

 

[Oktyabr]

Hi!

Put simply ohms have absolutely nothing to do with how fast a device goes through the juice, not directly anyway. The only three factors that contribute to juice consumption rate are the size of the wick, the size and make up of the coil around the wick, and airflow.

Low ohms are generally used in conjunction with a higher juice rate because typically a very low ohm coil is used to place the most amount of wire around the most amount of wick, with the intended purpose of vaporizing the most juice. But that's no solid rule! You can have very tiny wicks with a tiny coil that produces relatively small amounts of vapor... and is still considered a "low ohm" atomizer.

Hope I didn't just create more questions than I answered!

 

[Oktyabr]

If I put the same exact juice, uh 3.0mL in a 1.8 ohm clearo and a 2.5 ohm clearo, which clearo would run out of juice first, and why? I think there has to be a standard x number as the volts. Would 4V be a good voltage to use as the standard number?

Ohms is a measurement of the electrical resistance of the atomizer. Ohms don't vaporize e-liquid, heat does. Electrical energy converted to heat can be expressed as watts. The formula to calculate watts is watts = (voltage x voltage)/resistance. Most factory made devices seem to vape best at around 8 watts of power. With a little calculator work you can answer the 4v question with each of your two examples yourself

 

[The Don Mega]

Hi!

Put simply ohms have absolutely nothing to do with how fast a device goes through the juice, not directly anyway. The only three factors that contribute to juice consumption rate are the size of the wick, the size and make up of the coil around the wick, and airflow.

Low ohms are generally used in conjunction with a higher juice rate because typically a very low ohm coil is used to place the most amount of wire around the most amount of wick, with the intended purpose of vaporizing the most juice. But that's no solid rule! You can have very tiny wicks with a tiny coil that produces relatively small amounts of vapor... and is still considered a "low ohm" atomizer.

Hope I didn't just create more questions than I answered!

No, u didn't create more questions. I do understand all the other variables, too, but lets say the wick are exactly the same, on the same type of battery, and the same type of clearo, just with different ohms. I don't know if there was a "scientific" study by one of the great vapers out there that has tried this. If I don't hear anything in the next couple weeks, I'm going to try it myself, or, if someone gives me a good answer and explain that answer. Does that make sense? Btw, how in the heck do u PM people? LOL. New to the ecf and can't found out how to do that. Thank you tho, and u did bring in a couple more variable I didn't think about while typing this quick forum post. I do get what you're saying tho, so thank you!

 

[The Don Mega]

Ohms is a measurement of the electrical resistance of the atomizer. Ohms don't vaporize e-liquid, heat does. Electrical energy converted to heat can be expressed as watts. The formula to calculate watts is watts = (voltage x voltage)/resistance. Most factory made devices seem to vape best at around 8 watts of power. With a little calculator work you can answer the 4v question with each of your two examples yourself

Thanks for the reply. I am aware of ohm laws and how to calculate it. I was actually a pretty darn good student in Algebra-type math in school. I'm sorry, but the answer u gave didn't really apply. You just stated ohm's law and said how to use it. This is just a general discussion. Please don't think I'm trying to knock you or anything, because I am DEFINITELY not. Just replying is good enough for me. So you would be saying, having different resistance heads on the same volts on the same battery, they would both go empty at the same time. That's basically what I got from your response, since it didn't do too much explaining. Thanks for trying, though. I really do appreciate it. And if u get what I am trying to say, give it another try and see what u say. Thanks Oktyabr!!!! I REALLY do appreciate the reply, bud!

 

[Oktyabr]

A brand new vivi nova, a real one, will usually come with three different wicks. For the most part they are the same... one might have a few strands of small silica, another might have one big one. They are usually labeled in a range of 1.8, 2.4 and 2.8 ohms. They are essentially the same wick/coil, just with more or less (or possibly slightly thinner) wire to reach the advertised resistance. In a variable volt and especially a variable wattage device they will more or less consume juice at the same rate, given the same wattage.

I rewick all of mine myself for right at 2.0 ohms. This is only so they play nicely with non-variable batteries like your basic ego which is usually around 3.3 to 3.5 volts output (5.5 to just over 6 watts).

 

[Oktyabr]

Now for a real comparison? I have a factory clearo (about the same size head as a vivi nova) that reads 2.4 ohms. If I turn up voltage so I'm getting good vapor but *without* burning the juice (that's what happens with too many watts in a device designed for much less) it still uses the juice at a moderate rate. It probably has 2mm of silica wick in it, in a 1.6 ml tank. It's good for around 7 watts without burning the juice.

On the other hand I'm also a fan of SLR vaping and my preferred device is a lightly modified Smok RDA "Octopus" with a coil and wick I made myself. It uses three strands of silica, 3mm *each*. I use a thick, low gauge wire and the final resistance is 0.9 ohms. It also has an extra airhole drilled in the cap for better flow. I run it on an unregulated mechanical mod at the output voltage of the battery. Without taking voltage drop into consideration (a fraction of a volt) this combination will put down close to 20 watts of power on a freshly charged battery. It sucks up juice MUCH faster than the clearo in my first example.

Hope that helps?

 

[Talyon]

IMHO the lower the ohms the hotter the coil gets, resulting in faster liquid vaporization. I get more vapor and more TH with my 1.8 ohm coils which is why I use them exclusively.

 

[SharonMM]

IMHO the lower the ohms the hotter the coil gets, resulting in faster liquid vaporization. I get more vapor and more TH with my 1.8 ohm coils which is why I use them exclusively.

Ok, so to get this straight... If I am using a higher voltage battery, I want to use something to cook the juice that has low ohms? And vice versa, if I use a weaker battery, I would want to use more ohms?

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[Vapoor eyes er]

The higher the wattage the quicker the juice is vaporized:
Volts: 4.0
Ohms: 1.8
Wattage:8.88888889

Volts: 4.0
Ohms: 2.5
Wattage: 6.4
I also generally use 1.7 and 1.8 ohms and notice juice disappears much quicker than with 2.4 ohms but I enjoy a strong TH and lots of warm vapor. Many of us prefer to vape according to wattage rather than voltage.

 

[klynnn]

When I started I always remembered lower ohms lower voltage higher ohms higher voltage. Simple but it worked. If your battery is a 3.4 type use the lowest ohm head.

 

[The Don Mega]

I am loving what everyone is saying. Keep it going, folks. Knowledge is power! SHOW YOUR POWER!!!!

 

[The Don Mega]

What kind of got me starting on this is the Vivi Nova and an evod. The Vivi Nova tears thru the juice but the evod doesn't come close to that, in my case. I can put 2.5mL in my Vivi Nova and it will be darn near empty after only using it 10 times. That's just a rough estimate. I know the wicks have a lot to do with it, but d@mn! That's ridiculous!!!!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

You also have to understand that most cartos, heads, etc are not as advertised ohm- wise. I have a 1.8 ohms head that measures out at 2.2 ohms. 2.4 ohms that measures at 1.9 ohms. Have a 1.7 carto that measures at 1.5. Although I LOVE my Vision Vivi Novas I find they're the worst in misreported ohms. I test all mine beforehand and believe the easy air flow/ draw of the Vivis makes them juice monsters 8-o

 

[Oktyabr]

What kind of got me starting on this is the Vivi Nova and an evod. The Vivi Nova tears thru the juice but the evod doesn't come close to that, in my case. I can put 2.5mL in my Vivi Nova and it will be darn near empty after only using it 10 times. That's just a rough estimate. I know the wicks have a lot to do with it, but d@mn! That's ridiculous!!!!

YUP! That's the missing piece to this puzzle I think! Two completely different designs. If the Vivi Nova, at roughly the same resistance as the Evod, is going through more juice in the same amount of time then it would stand to reason it's producing more vapor too

 

[ZTKT]

Great info!
Looking to rebuild sooner than later and learning about how wick/coil size/ventilation affects juice consumption is helpful!

 

[SharonMM]

You also have to understand that most cartos, heads, etc are not as advertised ohm- wise. I have a 1.8 ohms head that measures out at 2.2 ohms. 2.4 ohms that measures at 1.9 ohms. Have a 1.7 carto that measures at 1.5. Although I LOVE my Vision Vivi Novas I find they're the worst in misreported ohms. I test all mine beforehand and believe the easy air flow/ draw of the Vivis makes them juice monsters 8-o

Ok, now you're just {MODERATED} with us, right?

Jk, I know you are really trying to be helpful. Sincere apologies for being so dense lol! I'm still not grasping ...

So, more volts more ohms then?

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[Vapoor eyes er]

Ok, now you're just {MODERATED} with us, right?

Jk, I know you are really trying to be helpful. Sincere apologies for being so dense lol! I'm still not grasping ...

So, more volts more ohms then?

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LOLLL...
Generally 1.7 or 1.8 ohms to 2.0 ohms is good from 3.3- 4.0 volts. 2.4 ohms is good from 4- 5 volts. Realize though some enjoy a warm vape while others like it cool. The Vivi is a top coil clearo so it gives a warmer vape while bottom coil/ BCC clearos give a cooler vape. If you ever discover a combination of volts+ ohms you enjoy you could always calculate the wattage and save that # for future reference.
Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator
This way you know exactly what you're looking for. Since getting my VW Vamo I no longer have any need to calculate anything- just set the wattage that I enjoy (dependent on the type of juice) and no matter what ohms device I use it is automatically calculated and adjusted for me. VW makes it so easy IMO.