Question on nicotine strength...

[bowyorang]

Ok, got the eGo ordered last night and the shipping info came today. Ordered a few little samples with it to try but was not really sure about the strength.
I ordered it mainly for my wife, she smokes about a pack and a half a week of analogs. Which is WAY down from the pack to pack and a half a day that we use to smoke.
Just wondering where I should start in strength? Any ideas?

 

[nickf41680]

Ok, got the eGo ordered last night and the shipping info came today. Ordered a few little samples with it to try but was not really sure about the strength.
I ordered it mainly for my wife, she smokes about a pack and a half a week of analogs. Which is WAY down from the pack to pack and a half a day that we use to smoke.
Just wondering where I should start in strength? Any ideas?

what type of cigs?

 

[bowyorang]

Marlboro full flavor menthol

 

[nickf41680]

i had started with 24mg, i was a pack pack and a half a day og menthol lights... i quickly dropped down to 12mg and i am now happy at 6mg after 2 months... for someone that is smoking 2-3 cigs a day i would honestly try 6mg... any more than that and u would actually be increasing your nicotine intake.....just my opinion...

 

[cskent]

Nic strength is an individual thing. Some full flavor smokers are happy with 12mg, others 36mg. I had cut my smoking down to 4-5/day but when I started vaping 18mg wasn't cutting it for me. I went to 24mg and all was good. I would suggest using the shotgun approach, getting a bunch of small bottles in different strengths and flavors. You'll be more likely to find something that works. The nic level is pretty easy, just try lower mg levels and move up in strength until the cravings go away. Flavors are harder to nail down because there's so much variety available. That's my anyway.

 

[bowyorang]

K, I guess we can just do a little experimenting. She is adamant about that she isn't really trying to quit smoking. She loves smoking and loves the feel of it. Loves the nicotine, loves the hit of the smoke, loves the whole process. She just wants to find a way to do it healthier. Also, being able to do it inside is also a plus.

 

[BillyP]

Well if she is smoking 30 analogs a week thats about ~4 a day. If she wants to only get her nicotine fix 4 times a day id say order her 18mg strength. Anything less and she might be tempted to use more often than 4x per day.

 

[bowyorang]

Well if she is smoking 30 analogs a week thats about ~4 a day. If she wants to only get her nicotine fix 4 times a day id say order her 18mg strength. Anything less and she might be tempted to use more often than 4x per day.

I got a feeling that she will be tempted to use it more than four times a day anyway since she won't feel as if she is smoking a "real" cigarette. It will just be too tempting for her and she can say that it isn't really hurting her and that she just likes it. We'll see though.

About to order some menthol juice and was wondering about the mix ratio. I kind of understand that the vg controls the vapor and the pg controls the hit....so give me a good idea of where to start. It looks like I can get just about any combo from where I am ordering. I think I remember someone saying that 30%pg and 70%vp was a good starting point...or was it the other way around..... ideas?
She does like the hit, but I know she will be disappointed if there isn't a lot of vaper as well....

 

[cskent]

I vape 100% PG @ 24mg and with my fully charged eGo get lots of vapor. I've tried VG mixes and usually didn't care for them as much. Menthol can be very strong, it took days to completely burn out of my atty afterward. If you're going with different flavors be aware that you should probably try others first, or use one atty for menthol and the other atty for the other flavors. Cinnamon is the same way.

 

[kingcobra]

I'm browsing some forums since I'm obviously brand new on here and have been put in the sandbox Truth is, I am a newbie, with my first order on the way. I've been doing some research on this after a friend turned me on to vaping last week, this was way more like a real smoke than I ever imagined. So I decided to give it a whirl.

I smoke about 40 cigarettes a day on average, full strength. So I didn't want to mess around with the weak stuff, I've heard that you should stay away from the 36s at least at first, and I'm not even sure you can get that strength here in Canada. So I went with 24mg, and after just reading this thread, that seems like a good choice.

I"m not the least bit interested in getting something that tastes like tobacco by the way. I've got a couple of cool flavors of juice ordered, raspberry and watermelon. After over 30 years of smoking tobacco, I'm ready for something different and tastier I'm not sure why anyone likes the taste of tobacco to be honest, that's not why we smoke it.

It seems that there's been quite a few people on here, most perhaps, who have been successful switching to vaping. It is indeed true that there is a lot more to tobacco addiction than just nicotine, and in fact one of the things that you really miss when switching is having to go through MAO inhibitor withdrawal. There are supplements that you can take though which will ease the transition, like St. John's Wort, which is not only a mild MAO inhibitor but an SSRI, which means it has the benefits of both classes of drugs used to treat depression. I've used it with other forms (gum, etc) and found it to be helpful, it just wasn't enough. I'll also be keeping several other supplements close at hand which are known to aid in this transition, like tyrosine, ginkgo biloba, etc. As well, coffee is known to have the same MAOI alkaloids as tobacco, which is one of the reasons why they go so well together, and I've got a coffee going day and night Perhaps in combination with vaping, I'll have more success.

 

[SSIM8]

Ok, got the eGo ordered last night and the shipping info came today. Ordered a few little samples with it to try but was not really sure about the strength.
I ordered it mainly for my wife, she smokes about a pack and a half a week of analogs. Which is WAY down from the pack to pack and a half a day that we use to smoke.
Just wondering where I should start in strength? Any ideas?

18 to 24 is average for most vappers. I go back and forth with them depending on flavor and such. But 24 will defiantly keep the analog urge under control. And don't put limitations on how often the pv is used. She might use it a lot at first to help get through the withdrawals of analogs.The first few months I was constantly using it...now it has leveled off. Good luck to her

 

[dormouse]

What kind of analogs? That determines what her nicotine habit is. If she is smoking ultralights then she won't need the same nicotine or level of TH that someone who smokes full strength cigs would need.

What exact kind of cigs?

Many people are able to start on these levels or one step higher (and some need lower if they start vaping a lot more than they smoked)

full strength cigs -> 24mg and some need 30+
light cigs -> 18mg and some need 24mg
ultralights -> 10-12mg and some need 18mg

And since I expect she will vape at least as much as she smoked, the packs per day don't really matter in my opinion. The more she vapes, the more nicotine she will get. What may matter is the flavors. Some people need good tobacco aroma juices to quit cigs. In the beginning I was like that - I could not vape fruity/foody flavors without getting analog cravings as if I had eaten. others are able to go right to fruity/foody flavors.

Get a variety and let her decide. I don't know what atomizers or cartomizers you got. If you have LR ones then the hit is going to be hot and high nicotine could be too irritating to start out on when vaping feels weird. Buy either a variety of nicotine or get the level you think is right plus some empty bottles and some 0nic of the same flavor and then you can mix up other strengths yourself.

And don't spend a ton on those Chinese PG juices. You could get some tobacco or USA-Mix or menthol to start but then buy some juices with some VG in them. Medium or high nicotine in 100% PG can be very irritating to the mouth, throat and even lungs. Even 30% vg in the juice base will help buffer that. Most US juice makers offer PG/VG blends.

If she smokes non-menthols I recommend FreedomSmokeUSA Desert Ship (in 70pg/30vg) which reminds many (including me) of a freshly opened pack. It's a Turkish blend so nutty and a bit pungent and strong aroma. If she smokes light or ultralights, maybe Backwoods Brew Casablanca instead (a more complex Turkish blend). I also find adding Cocoa flavor to tobaccos juices helps many of them. Most cigs have cocoa in them (Marlboros, Pall Mall, Parliament, Capris and many others). FreedomSmokeUSA Cocoa premixed is great to have around.

 

[bebop09]

I started at 24mg, sort tried to drop to 18-20mg and sort of lost throat hit for me and accidently order 36mg in a recent batch and am smoking at that level. Next batch going to try and go back to about 20. I would definitely try and lower nic content over time as vaping should really be a happy medium of not smoking analogs and not completely destroying your body. That's just me, I just wish I could get my fiance to get on the vape train, lots of spent cash on her with little result.

 

[Stosh]

I would recommend you get some samples in low nicotine 6-12mg strength. Starting out when you can vape (and not smoke) a Double Chocolate Bavarian Cream Banana Cappuccino with ZERO calories, it's tough to put down. And there are so many other tasty flavors, much better than a real cigarette, chain vaping is common.

 

[Chornbro]

I smoked pack/day marlboro menthols... 24mg is just right but can be too much at times. I damn sure don't crave analogs. Try 24 or 18...

 

[MickeyRat]

K, I guess we can just do a little experimenting. She is adamant about that she isn't really trying to quit smoking. She loves smoking and loves the feel of it. Loves the nicotine, loves the hit of the smoke, loves the whole process. She just wants to find a way to do it healthier. Also, being able to do it inside is also a plus.

She's 100% right. She's not quitting. She's switching.

IMO start at 24mg but, keep some lower strength around. This varies a lot between individuals.

 

[Supersquint]

Good luck King Cobra! I too was a 30 year veteran and took up e-cigs, finished a pack the day after I got my new toy and didn't buy another. It's only been a few weeks but this seems to have all the habit associated stuff and less of the other crap.

 

[DC2]

I definitely don't think she should get anything higher than 18mg strength.

I would get some 6mg and some 18mg so you can mix them together to find what she likes.
My guess is that she'll settle in around 12mg strength.

If she starts getting headaches and/or feeling nauseous, it's too much nicotine.
If she is still having cravings for a cigarette, it is very likely not enough nicotine.