Question on sub ohm
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I personally do some pretty rigorous cardio and still enjoy sub ohming. I like lung hits, I think they feel good. Obviously if everyone liked just your style there would be a rush to develop geni's, but with the sub tank craze it seems maybe some folks like other aspects of vaping. How's the lung hits on your geni?
You don't seem to get the point. How is it vapers keep building up a tolerance and need more and more? Is it just new vapers who can't get a good vape with a conservative set up due to inexperience, or is it about clouds? I don't care what anyone vapers, I just don't understand the need for more and more. Is it like an addict who is never satisfied?
If I take a 16 second draw on a carto tank I can blow more volume of 'vapor' than most kids on YouTube. Not as thick, though...
And just to point out, I'm sitting here vaping a .63 ohm twisted 28 ga setup at 30 watts, getting great, thick vapor clouds and loads of flavor, definitely my idea of satisfaction. Only 3 mg nic, and that let's me take a couple puffs and just trail the monsters out! Fantastic 
I totally get your point. You don't get that people have different wants than you. I personally built my tolerance up a little when I started subin over tootling, but it hasn't increased since than. Four chain puffs off a dripper or tank and I'm slightly lightheaded, like I was only a few days after starting subin, and this was months ago.
Personally I see vaping as a hobby. I like buying new attys to try different builds in them, find what little thing you really like and enhance it! I like having mods tailored to each atty, everything perfected for that next vape!
I can see if someone gets to a level and stops needing more. But it seems like that's not the case with so many. Where is the end? No resistance 500 watt vaping?
Not just about clouds, but I do enjoy them! Again it's balancing airflow, flavor and clouds in different configurations dependant for me on the specific atty. All taking into consideration with possible voltage to run and even which mod is free
"Thickness" Is important..
I've given the apparent desire for BIGGER clouds some thought and here's my take.
Smoking isn't only about getting nicotine in your system.
It's a very physical/sensual thing. From the mannerisms/posture, taste and smell to
the feeling of smoke particulate expanding in your lungs on inhale.
While vaping offers us the nicotine, mannerisms, posture, taste and smell
it fails in sensuality because there's no way that vapor particles
can stimulate our windpipes an cilia to the extent that smoke, with all it's little
particles can.
That's the why to more powerful mods, sub resistant coils
and the never ending search for bigger clouds.
Vapor just isn't dense enough to stoke out needs.
It's like asking a 90 pound weakling to rub your shoulders when you need a MASSAGE
or getting him/her to walk on your back when you need "HEAVY" to crack your spine.
Regards,
Hazy
I think it'll max out. There's just no reason to go higher than a couple hundred watts. We'll see more improvements on older ideas, more streamlined versions of what's out now. We'll see people taking everything to the max, which is always popular among enthusiasts
"Thickness" Is important..
I've given the apparent desire for BIGGER clouds some thought and here's my take.
Smoking isn't only about getting nicotine in your system.
It's a very physical/sensual thing. From the mannerisms/posture, taste and smell to
the feeling of smoke particulate expanding in your lungs on inhale.
While vaping offers us the nicotine, mannerisms, posture, taste and smell
it fails in sensuality because there's no way that vapor particles
can stimulate our windpipes an cilia to the extent that smoke, with all it's little
particles can.
That's the why to more powerful mods, sub resistant coils
and the never ending search for bigger clouds.
Vapor just isn't dense enough to stoke out needs.
It's like asking a 90 pound weakling to rub your shoulders when you need a MASSAGE
or getting him/her to walk on your back when you need "HEAVY" to crack your spine.
Regards,
Hazy
Nikola gives great massages of all kinds, and she can't be much over 105 lbs.
Obviously it's different for everyone, but I get a lot more throat hit and flavor from high nic, high pg, low power vaping than I ever could from a cigarette or cigar even. Cigarette smoke and vapor are roughly the same density...
Otay, I said weakling, and walking on backs, in my case requires the force only weight will give - other than a kick which isn't productive.
Look, the only way I can illustrate the concept totally is to ask you to fire up a ciggie and compare.
The density is particulate where in vapor it's vapor- water droplets.
The difference between a glass of water and a milkshake.
I do have a few in Prague. Nothing, just air and a little cigarette flavor. I dont get anything from them anymore. I reach for my mod after because a cigarette doesn't do it for me anymore. My vape is far stronger. Most who try mine cough, and they are smokers...
Yes, you can use your higher pg juice. I do. I never use higher than 70vg, and half my juice is 50/50.
And there's nothing wrong with trying new things. My understanding is the Subtank can be used for higher ohm vaping as well as subohming. And the RBA deck is great for learning to build if you choose. I think its a nice choice for trying different vaping styles. And if you're like many of us you may find you like variety. I like lower power vaping, mid range and high power vaping.
And there's nothing wrong with trying new things. My understanding is the Subtank can be used for higher ohm vaping as well as subohming. And the RBA deck is great for learning to build if you choose. I think its a nice choice for trying different vaping styles. And if you're like many of us you may find you like variety. I like lower power vaping, mid range and high power vaping.
I mean for me I get a lot of personal satisfaction from blowing big clouds, the nicotine high just makes it better, but I even quest for big clouds with 0 nic juice
I thought you were vaping 3mg..You don't need the thick, most folks do
PG/VG always make smokers cough when they inhale..It softens up the cigarette crud
I personally enjoy higher VG juice. It's a much smoother vape. The problem with a high VG juice is that the flavor is muted. To ascertain the same amount of flavor that I would get from the same juice with a higher PG level I have to increase vapor. And no I don't want to have to take an incredibly insane long pull on a tank to get it lol. This requires higher watts and is easier to attain with sub ohm builds. My lowest build that I vape is .26 ohms with 22 ga wire. It's a dual 10 wrap 3mm coil build. It's my favorite build and I run it at about 75 watts, even though on a fresh drip it'll take 150 watts with no problem. Flavor is awesome off of it, and yes it does blow clouds. The clouds aren't the point they are a side effect for me. I want a full flavored and smooth vape. High VG (70/30 or more) and sub ohm builds is the most satisfying to me because of the feel and taste. Now if I wanted to feel that TH and flavor I would stick with a high PG juice. Most of the time though when I'm on the go or at work or don't feel like dripping I run a 18mg 70V/30 juice in my subohm tank 1.2 coil and run it at 18 watts. It's not my favorite vape, but it keeps me satisfied and doesn't kill the juice bill. Basically find your vape learn how to do it safely and enjoy it.
I vape 24 and 36 mg/ml. I was at 18mg/a while ago, but it didn't take...
ummm not true.... I used to smoke 3PAD and now vape 36nic at about 5 ml a day... if I vape more than 5 ml a day I feel "yucky"... and when I chain vape I get hiccups, the first sign of getting nicsic... so if one becomes nicsic, one isnt tolerant to it.
I wonder how many people would be vaping if there was no visible "cloud" produced... all one would get is flavor TH etc but no "mist" on exhale....
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