Question on the eGo-T USB Passthrough kit

[bettysue]

Hi,

I am a newbie here and ready to buy my first kit. I had been set on buying a 510 kit but have received mixed opinions on it and several suggested instead an ego system.

I found this kit on a site: eGo-T 1100mAh USB Passthrough Starter Kit

which is a tank system with passthrough charging, which I am assuming might be good for a heavy smoker/vaper. I currently smoke 2-3 packs of menthol 100 cigarettes a day and my desire is to wean down on nicotine strengths until I can just buy regular flavors without nicotine.

Do those who have been doing this for a while have an opinion on this kit or passthrough charging?

thank you,
betty

 

[Kent C]

Hi Betty,

The eGo-t system is one generation back from the eGo stuff. The eGo-c is newer and cheaper because you only have to replace the coil unit instead of the whole atomizer for the eGo-t. And there are now better choices for the eGo-c than the eGo-c tank/atty system. That would be clearomizers. A good combination now, would be a couple of eGo-c batteries or say one battery and one passthrough, and eGo charger, and a couple of Kanger T3 clearomizers.

For example and many vendors have these but I happen to have this on the browser...

eGo-c 'upgrade' batt - 650mAh which last about 5 hours for a heavy smoker:

Joye eGo-C Upgrade Battery, Joyetech eGo C Upgrade battery, eGo-C Upgrade battery

eGo charger:
Joye eGo Mega USB Charger, Joye eGo Charger, eGo USB Charger

eGo-c 'upgrade' passthrough - get the 650mAh IF you're going to have it hooked up all the time either at the computer, tv chair, car, etc. The 1000 would be if you intended to take it off the passthrough usb charger for a period of time - 8 hours eg.

Joye ego-C Upgrade Pass-thru, Joyetech Upgrade Pass Through, Joye ego-C

Kanger T3:
Kanger T3 Bottom Coil Clearomizer, Kanger T3 Cartomizers, KR T3 Clearomizers

This one comes fit with the 2.5 ohm coil and I prefer the 1.8 ohm for most flavors. The light flavors do better on the 2.2ohm coil, imo. So... you may want to pick these up here:

eGo 3ml Tabac BCC (Bottom Coil Changeable) Clearomizer

[the 'tabac bcc' is the same thing as the kanger T3]

And you can get extra coils here: Maybe pick up another 1.8 and a couple 2.2's - they're easy to replace - just unscrew the old one and screw in the new one.
eGo 3ml Tabac BCC Clearomizer - Spare Bottom Coils

 

[bettysue]

Hi Kent,

Thank you so much for the information and links. Thing is I added up the individual parts and they some to much more than a kit. Being on a fixed income I need to purchase the most for the least I can.

What do you think of this kit and what other items, besides the e-liquid, would I need to purchase with it?

https://secure.cighub.com/content/ego-c-starter-kit-1100mah-white-lcd-version

thank you so much for the reply and advice,
betty

 

[DJ RyckRak]

Hi Betty !
I answered one of your posts the other night...
but you were looking for a cig-a-like.

Looking over this kit, I believe it is a very good starter kit...
somewhat like the ego-c kit I started with four months ago.

The only other thing you might need to but is a couple more atomizers for spares...like 3-5 bucks each.
And your juice...menthol I think it was...18-24MG/ML is what you need as a 2 PAD smoker.
You are set to Vape !!!

Best to You !

EDIT: I see that you can add a 5 pack of atomizer heads (it's in the descrription in BLUE)....also go with the HIGH for your liquid, get like 2 - 30ML bottles,
Should last you about a month.

 

[bettysue]

Hi Betty !
I answered one of your posts the other night...
but you were looking for a cig-a-like.

Looking over this kit, I believe it is a very good starter kit...
somewhat like the ego-c kit I started with four months ago.

The only other thing you might need to but is a couple more atomizers for spares...like 3-5 bucks each.
And your juice...menthol I think it was...18-24MG/ML is what you need as a 2 PAD smoker.
You are set to Vape !!!

Best to You !

EDIT: I see that you can add a 5 pack of atomizer heads (it's in the descrription in BLUE)....also go with the HIGH for your liquid, get like 2 - 30ML bottles,
Should last you about a month.

I know, up until this morning I was all set to buy a 510 system and had narrowed it down to two models, the regular and the tank system. Then I looked back on some of the replies I had received and saw that many also recommended the Joyetech ego-c system.

I honestly don't know which would be the best kit for me, although Kent replies that the 510's are an older system. I need to decide tonight as the more I read the more confused I get as to which one is right for me.

thank you so much for your reply and advice

betty

 

[Kent C]

This was the history of the 510 line (510 designates the type of threading on the battery for the atomizer or whatever else you might put on it - cartomizer, clearomizer, tank, etc.

Joye 510 - cig style ecig (cig size)
Joye eGo
Joye eGo clones
Joye eGo mega systems
Joye eGo-t
Joye eGo-c

Up to the 'mega systems' the cartridges all had some type of filler that held the ejuice - the problems were - some could taste the filler; and the cartridges were small (except the mega carts).

With the eGo-t - there was no filler but a tank that fed directly into the coil area via a 'spike' that had wicking in it. But the atomizer body and coil were all one unit.

With the eGo-c - this was the same as the eGo-t except the atomizer body, the coil unit, and the coil unit holder were separate parts. So... when the coil burn out, you could replace it by buying ONLY the coil unit @$4-5 vs. having to buy the whole eGo-t atomizer for @$10-14.

The kit you show, while not a joyetech kit is an eGo-c type and like DJ points out in the edit, you'll have 5 coil units which should last you a while. There are some 'tips' you should know about when starting this unit. The caps on the tanks will either already have a hole in them or they won't. If they don't, then you should 'pre-punch' that hole first before filling and before inserting into the spike - you'll understand this better when you get the system The cap on the tank is at the opposite side of the mouthpiece. That is also where you fill the tank with ejuice. I take a ball point pen - take the ink cartridge out and using the pen hole - make a hole in the cap... there are other ways of course.... and make sure you remove the 'chad' if it doesn't come out when making the hole.

More tips here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/286941-ego-c-leaking-issue-2.html#post5798271

post #19 and click on the link I give in that post.... That is for the eGo-t but much of it also pertains to the eGo-c. On cleaning, I use a vodka bath and for the t you had to put the whole atomizer in. With the c only the coil unit

 

[bettysue]

I hadn't noticed that the kit wasn't a Joyetech. Should I look around for a similar Joyetech system or will a generic work ok?

Also what is a "chad"? I know here in Florida a couple of presidential elections ago the "dangling chads" were an issue , but what are they in relation to the unit? Also in the kit I linked to which part is the coil unit?

thank you again Kent,

betty

 

[Kent C]

I hadn't noticed that the kit wasn't a Joyetech. Should I look around for a similar Joyetech system or will a generic work ok?

Also what is a "chad"? I know here in Florida a couple of presidential elections ago the "dangling chads" were an issue , but what are they in relation to the unit? Also in the kit I linked to which part is the coil unit?

thank you again Kent,

betty

On clones... depend on your funds Although .. you get what you pay for. Not saying that there isn't an occasional lemon from any manufacturer, but I've had good luck with Joyetech. When you have what people copy, then you usually have something good.

Chad - same idea as the 'florida chads' - when you punch out a hole on the cap of the tank, sometimes there's still a 'chad' there and if you have some thin end scissors, it's best to cut it off, so it doesn't get in the way of the flow or, worse, stuck in the spike where the wick is.

Coil unit is the small cylindrical unit with the spike sticking out the top.

 

[bettysue]

On clones... depend on your funds Although .. you get what you pay for. Not saying that there isn't an occasional lemon from any manufacturer, but I've had good luck with Joyetech. When you have what people copy, then you usually have something good.

Chad - same idea as the 'florida chads' - when you punch out a hole on the cap of the tank, sometimes there's still a 'chad' there and if you have some thin end scissors, it's best to cut it off, so it doesn't get in the way of the flow or, worse, stuck in the spike where the wick is.

Coil unit is the small cylindrical unit with the spike sticking out the top.

On the coil again, what is the part name on the kit? The atomizer? atomizer head? etc?

I can't seem to find a Joyetech starter kit for under $75.00 plus more to upgrade the batteries from 650 to 1000. My funds are definitely limited as I am disabled on a fixed income but if the clone kits are known to give out I also don't need to waster money. I'm SO very confused right now.

On the Joyetech ego-c kits on some sites like the link I am going to put below, you can choose the battery upgrade, Type A or Type B, and regular resistance or low resistance. I have no clue except for the possibility of the battery upgrade as what to choose. Then when searching for ego-c kits I came across the ego-cab kits. Seems liek with every search I am finding more and more models and types. I just want a good starter kit to get going on my transition.

https://www.cignot.com/category_s/23.htm?searching=Y&sort=13&cat=23&show=10&page=2

thank you again,

betty

 

[Kent C]

bettysue :On the coil again, what is the part name on the kit? The atomizer? atomizer head? etc?

people use different names, but Joye calls it the atomizer head. Coil unit. Head.... it IS where the atomizer/coil is.
Joyetech eGo-C, Changeable System

I can't seem to find a Joyetech starter kit for under $75.00 plus more to upgrade the batteries from 650 to 1000. My funds are definitely limited as I am disabled on a fixed income but if the clone kits are known to give out I also don't need to waster money. I'm SO very confused right now.

I understand, but it's the same with any product type. Knock offs are cheaper - in price and in quality.. usually. You just have to decide which way to go on that - your choice. Many start off with clones and do well. Those who don't, save up and get a Joye later. Riva kits are usually cheaper and seem to hold up well. I've had a few. Check the vendor's return policy. If they have a good price on a clone and say, a thirty day return policy - go for it If they have a week return policy - go elsewhere.

On the Joyetech ego-c kits on some sites like the link I am going to put below, you can choose the battery upgrade, Type A or Type B, and regular resistance or low resistance. I have no clue except for the possibility of the battery upgrade as what to choose. Then when searching for ego-c kits I came across the ego-cab kits. Seems liek with every search I am finding more and more models and types. I just want a good starter kit to get going on my transition.

https://www.cignot.com/category_s/23.htm?searching=Y&sort=13&cat=23&show=10&page=2

Type A is cone shaped and the tanks hold about 1ml of ejuice. Type B is cylinder shaped and hold about 2ml of ejuice.

Low resistance (LR) coils/atomizer units are 1.8ohms in the eGo-c and are better for stronger flavors and can run a bit hot and burn ejuices, in my experience. Standard resistance coils are 2.2ohm and work well with most flavors. With the eGo-c tank/atty unit system, I used Standard resistance (SR) on all my flavors.


thank you again,

You're welcome.

 

[bettysue]

I finally found the returns policy on the clone kit and it is only 14 days from the delivery date so I guess I either need to keep looking or just bite the budget and go for the Joyetech one. I have come across two or three clone kits that come directly from China with 120 day warranty and other warranties, some with free shipping but am just not sure about ordering from out of the country. I have ordered from China on eBay and have never had a problem but they have eBay to deal with if they default, with direct ordering there is no one to back you up on the sale.

Then of course once I decide on a kit I need to start reading about the e-liquid and the best type to buy as there seem to be many types.

I am admittedly getting very frustrated in my search for the kit and need to buy it before I reach the point of forgetting about the whole thing.

Thank you for any help and/or advice,

betty

added: If I go with the Joyetech I am leaning towards buying this kit and ordering the e-liquid from the same site. It looks like they are recommending the PG liquid as they say the VG is thicker and can clog.
http://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/e-cigarette-starter-kits/joyetech-ego-c-starter-kit/
They have a 30 day and 60 day prorated warranty. Opinions?

 

[Kent C]

I finally found the returns policy on the clone kit and it is only 14 days from the delivery date so I guess I either need to keep looking or just bite the budget and go for the Joyetech one. I have come across two or three clone kits that come directly from China with 120 day warranty and other warranties, some with free shipping but am just not sure about ordering from out of the country. I have ordered from China on eBay and have never had a problem but they have eBay to deal with if they default, with direct ordering there is no one to back you up on the sale.

Then of course once I decide on a kit I need to start reading about the e-liquid and the best type to buy as there seem to be many types.

I am admittedly getting very frustrated in my search for the kit and need to buy it before I reach the point of forgetting about the whole thing.

Thank you for any help and/or advice,

betty

added: If I go with the Joyetech I am leaning towards buying this kit and ordering the e-liquid from the same site. It looks like they are recommending the PG liquid as they say the VG is thicker and can clog.
Joyetech eGo-C Starter Kit - MyFreedomSmokes.com
They have a 30 day and 60 day prorated warranty. Opinions?

That's one way. I also like this kit for you:

eGo-C w/ SmokTech Redux Starter Kit

It comes with genuine Joyetech eGo-c batteries, charger and wall plug. And with a clearomizer that will be much less fuss than the eGo-c tank/atty system. If they had a custom Kanger T3 kit, it would be even better but you can pick some of those up later.

As far as VG ejuice - as a heavy smoker you'll like the vapor it gives off vs. PG and most VG blends are diluted to where they don't gunk up the coils any more than PG. Sometimes it's the flavorings that gunk up the coils. And MFS's have a pretty good line of ejuices. So, I'm thinking a couple of choices:

Samples:
E-Liquid - Sample E-Liquid - MyFreedomSmokes.com

If you know you want tobacco flavors go with one of those - one is PG, the other VG OR go with the single sample and get a few of each:

6ml Sample E-Liquid

These are in 6ml bottles. So you're going to want at least 5 of these to start and as soon as you find one you like, order at least a 20ml bottle of that ejuice in the same nic level and flavor.

And you have to pick how much nicotine (in terms of "mg" miligrams of nic) If you were an ultra light cig smoker - I'd get some 6-12 mg samples. Lights smoker - 12-18mg. Camel non-filters = 24mg nic.

Just some clues - many of the tobacco flavors have other flavors added. For example (and ymmv on this depending on who's mixing)
555 - tobacco + peanut/nutty flavor (can have a bite)
Hilton or Camel - tobacco + chocolate
Kent - tobacco + vanilla (smooth)
Marboro/US/ or anything cowboy sounding - tobacco+vanilla and maybe coconut (coconut smooths)
Virginia - tobacco + almond (also a bite but not like some 555's)
RY4 - tobacco + caramel and maybe ginger (sweet)
DK TAB, Tobacco - pretty much straight tobacco
YMMV widely on these....

 

[bettysue]

Hi Kent,

You are just an amazing knowledge base for this stuff

One question on the kit you recommended, the description didn't state how much e-liquid it holds so I went to the parts section and found the replacement clearomizers. It gave how much liquid they hold (1.6ml) and ot also said they are low resistance. In a previous reply you recommended standard resistance, will the low resistance make a big difference?

SmokTech Redux eGo Clearomizer with Changeable, Replaceable Heads, Coils, and Wicks

thank you so very much again,

betty

added: my only opinion against the kit is it only comes in black and stainless while I prefer white. I'm sure that's just a girl thing and one I can overcome....lol

 

[Kent C]

Hi Kent,

You are just an amazing knowledge base for this stuff

One question on the kit you recommended, the description didn't state how much e-liquid it holds so I went to the parts section and found the replacement clearomizers. It gave how much liquid they hold (1.6ml) and ot also said they are low resistance. In a previous reply you recommended standard resistance, will the low resistance make a big difference?

SmokTech Redux eGo Clearomizer with Changeable, Replaceable Heads, Coils, and Wicks

thank you so very much again,

betty

added: my only opinion against the kit is it only comes in black and stainless while I prefer white. I'm sure that's just a girl thing and one I can overcome....lol

Betty,

With the regular eGo-c kit with the eGo-c atty and tank, I don't recommend the low resistance on those. But with the clearomizers, it's different. The 1.8 ohm clearos work for most flavors. Lighter flavors do better at 2.2ohm on the Kanger T3's and other clearos. So you should be good to go. If not then next purchase get a T3 with a 2.2ohm coil.....

Understood on the color

Since these are 'customized' kits, made up at MFS, you might contact the vendor and see if you could switch to white - also available in blue. Here's the link. Don't want to make it too complicated but it's worth and email to them, imo.

Joyetech eGo-C 1000mAh Battery

Good luck!

 

[bettysue]

Betty,

With the regular eGo-c kit with the eGo-c atty and tank, I don't recommend the low resistance on those. But with the clearomizers, it's different. The 1.8 ohm clearos work for most flavors. Lighter flavors do better at 2.2ohm on the Kanger T3's and other clearos. So you should be good to go. If not then next purchase get a T3 with a 2.2ohm coil.....

Understood on the color

Since these are 'customized' kits, made up at MFS, you might contact the vendor and see if you could switch to white - also available in blue. Here's the link. Don't want to make it too complicated but it's worth and email to them, imo.

Joyetech eGo-C 1000mAh Battery

Good luck!

Well...I did it! I ordered the kit you suggested in black. When I was debating about asking them to change the battery color I remembered a post I had read that said that white e-cigs can make businesses think you are smoking a regular cigarette and possibly cause problems, so I stayed with the black.

On the 6ml samples, it states on the site you can only order 1 per order so I only ordered 1 of the samples and a 30ml of the menthol tobacco, both in 24 mg nicotine level.

Priority mail was free so no shipping charges so my order total was $85.85. Does that seem about right for an initial order to start out? It's about $30 more than I had hoped to spend but I understand that being a heavy smoker that wants to wean off regular cigarettes and work my way down to 0 nicotine, I can't cut corners.

Thank you again so very much for the advice you gave me that helped to my decisions. If you thought I had questions before...just wait until my kit gets here...lol

take care,

betty

 

[Kent C]

Well...I did it! I ordered the kit you suggested in black. When I was debating about asking them to change the battery color I remembered a post I had read that said that white e-cigs can make businesses think you are smoking a regular cigarette and possibly cause problems, so I stayed with the black.

On the 6ml samples, it states on the site you can only order 1 per order so I only ordered 1 of the samples and a 30ml of the menthol tobacco, both in 24 mg nicotine level.

Priority mail was free so no shipping charges so my order total was $85.85. Does that seem about right for an initial order to start out? It's about $30 more than I had hoped to spend but I understand that being a heavy smoker that wants to wean off regular cigarettes and work my way down to 0 nicotine, I can't cut corners.

Thank you again so very much for the advice you gave me that helped to my decisions. If you thought I had questions before...just wait until my kit gets here...lol

take care,

betty

For what you got, I think you got a good price and a good start. You might want to pick up some lower nic methol, just in case 24mg is too much, so you can dilute it some. But depending on your habit, you may need it. Hiccups is my 'early a bit too much nicotine' warning... even though I was a 3 pack a day smoker, I smoked ultra lights and started vaping at 18mg now around 10mg nic.

You should 'recover' your investment in less than a month. What I did when I started vaping is that I decided that when the urge hit, I'd hit the ecigarette for three hits FIRST, then if I still wanted a cigarette, I'd have one. Once I got the Joye 510 ecig, I never had another cig. That will be 4 years in June. And I only tried out ecigs for 'what's this?' experiment, not intending to quit. Never thinking that Anything could replace smoking. I never tried to quite before that - no patches, no gum, no Chantix, no cold turkey

 

[bettysue]

For what you got, I think you got a good price and a good start. You might want to pick up some lower nic methol, just in case 24mg is too much, so you can dilute it some. But depending on your habit, you may need it. Hiccups is my 'early a bit too much nicotine' warning... even though I was a 3 pack a day smoker, I smoked ultra lights and started vaping at 18mg now around 10mg nic.

You should 'recover' your investment in less than a month. What I did when I started vaping is that I decided that when the urge hit, I'd hit the ecigarette for three hits FIRST, then if I still wanted a cigarette, I'd have one. Once I got the Joye 510 ecig, I never had another cig. That will be 4 years in June. And I only tried out ecigs for 'what's this?' experiment, not intending to quit. Never thinking that Anything could replace smoking. I never tried to quite before that - no patches, no gum, no Chantix, no cold turkey

I'm going to have to hold off buying anything else for a while, I just hope the nicotine isn't too strong for me. It is the level that was recommended for me on here so I went for it. I had also posted that I smoke menthol lights but was told that the "lights" has nothing to do with the nicotine level of the cigarette. I am not putting blame on anyone who responded for me though as I'm a big girl and responsible for my decisions

My ultimate goal is to work my way down to 0 nicotine. Funny thing is though I was in the hospital 2 1/2 years ago for 13 days and a couple of weeks ago for 5 days. In both stays the nurses would bring me a nicotine patch every day and I always refused them. When I'm in the hospital I don't think about smoking, don't crave a cigarette or anything else related to smoking. Yet as soon as I am discharged, once I'm in the car the first thing I do is light up.

take care,
betty

 

[Kent C]

I'm going to have to hold off buying anything else for a while, I just hope the nicotine isn't too strong for me. It is the level that was recommended for me on here so I went for it. I had also posted that I smoke menthol lights but was told that the "lights" has nothing to do with the nicotine level of the cigarette. I am not putting blame on anyone who responded for me though as I'm a big girl and responsible for my decisions

My ultimate goal is to work my way down to 0 nicotine. Funny thing is though I was in the hospital 2 1/2 years ago for 13 days and a couple of weeks ago for 5 days. In both stays the nurses would bring me a nicotine patch every day and I always refused them. When I'm in the hospital I don't think about smoking, don't crave a cigarette or anything else related to smoking. Yet as soon as I am discharged, once I'm in the car the first thing I do is light up.

take care,
betty

One thing you could do if the nic is too high is to dilute it with PG or vegetable glycerin from walmart. Just make sure it is for human consumption (food grade) and has the USP grade label. You get 4 oz. for a few bucks.

 

[bettysue]

One thing you could do if the nic is too high is to dilute it with PG or vegetable glycerin from walmart. Just make sure it is for human consumption (food grade) and has the USP grade label. You get 4 oz. for a few bucks.

Which department is it in at Walmart?

thank you,
betty

 

[Kent C]

Which department is it in at Walmart?

thank you,
betty

It may vary... here's one product, $3.88 for 6oz:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Humco-Skin-Protectant-Glycerin-Usp-6-oz/10417582

Discussed in this thread - one guy said above the rubbing alcohol ??

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...o-you-get-vegetable-glycerin.html#post2484860