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I havent been vaping that long and im confused when it comes to coils..how do you know which one is best for your device,i have a kanger emow mega that came with the upgraded 1.5 dual coil (i understand the dual part) i see they have the 1.8 too. Is one stronger than the other, can it increase taste or anything like that? Basiclly im asking does it matter what ohms your coils are
 

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I'm generalizing so take this as a rule of thumb
Reducing ohms is all about heat vs battery life. Lower ohms + fixed voltage = higher amps, higher wattage, more vapor, shorter battery life.
Higher ohms will give you less vapor but your battery will last longer and you will use juice less quickly.
In all honesty at 1.5 vs 1.8 ohms im not sure how much difference you will notice. There is a difference and you would see it with measurements but i'm not sure you will actually notice it. I dont between 1.6 and 1.8.
 

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I'm generalizing so take this as a rule of thumb
Reducing ohms is all about heat vs battery life. Lower ohms + fixed voltage = higher amps, higher wattage, more vapor, shorter battery life.
Higher ohms will give you less vapor but your battery will last longer and you will use juice less quickly.
In all honesty at 1.5 vs 1.8 ohms im not sure how much difference you will notice. There is a difference and you would see it with measurements but i'm not sure you will actually notice it. I dont between 1.6 and 1.8.

Great answer. I'll just add that most pre-made coils in my experience have a tolerance that is higher than the difference between a 1.5 and a 1.8. So you could actually get a coil labelled 1.8 that meters at 1.5 and vice versa.

Your eMow is a variable voltage device so the beauty of that is you can adjust your voltage to give you the vape you prefer, regardless of the resistance of the coils you are using (within reason, obviously there is a lower and upper limit)
 

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Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-8 watts) and use stock coils.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 watts per coil. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) or dry with your clearomizers.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you are using dual coil atomizers, things get a bit more confusing. Dual coil atties consist of two coils configured in parallel, which means that a 2.1Ω atty is really two 4.2Ω coils--so you have to calculate your wattage based on the 4.2Ω number--not 2.1Ω--roughly. Dual coil atties require more wattage than singles, but not quite twice as much. They produce more vapor due to increased surface. I usually increase the power (wattage) by ~50% when using dual coils; for example, if I like 6 watts with a single coil atty, I start at 8-9 watts with a dual coil atty. That's just my preference--YMMV. When in doubt--start low and adjust up as needed.

If you are interested in high wattage (and/or sub-ohm)vaping, that's a different conversation altogether--and not my area of expertise. :)

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

e-cigarette-volts-ohms-watts.png
 
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Your eMow is a variable voltage device so the beauty of that is you can adjust your voltage to give you the vape you prefer, regardless of the resistance of the coils you are using (within reason, obviously there is a lower and upper limit)

if I understand it correctly, the OP only has an Emow tank, not the battery...

But he does own a vv batter, right? A Spinner?
 

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Im still trying to find my sweet spot , hopefully ill find it soon.anyhow according to that chart and being that my preferred ejuices are tobaccos and coffees ( if i ever find a good coffee ejuice) i should stay in the mid to high 4 volt area..oh does anyone knows a good coffee e juice?
 
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The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

e-cigarette-volts-ohms-watts.png

The chart is probably a good starting guide for a noob, but it is old so doesn't apply to lots of newer devices, many clearos are fine up to about 17W. I haven't seen anyone do a chart to cover things as they are now though and it would just be more confusing.
 

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The chart is probably a good starting guide for a noob, but it is old so doesn't apply to lots of newer devices, many clearos are fine up to about 17W. I haven't seen anyone do a chart to cover things as they are now though and it would just be more confusing.

This is a conservative chart, as I stated above, but for single-coil stock atomizers it is spot on. Kanger recommends 5-7.5W (per coil). Dual coils, of course, need more wattage. This chart was made before rebuildables and dual coil atties.

The only single stock coil (I know of) that can comfortably and safely go above 10 watts is the Aspire BVC coil--perhaps because it's stuffed with fiberglass/ceramic/whatever (Aspire is not forthcoming with accurate identification of the material--as a matter of fact,they just pulled their old description from the site). :)
 

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Im still trying to find my sweet spot , hopefully ill find it soon.anyhow according to that chart and being that my preferred ejuices are tobaccos and coffees ( if i ever find a good coffee ejuice) i should stay in the mid to high 4 volt area..oh does anyone knows a good coffee e juice?

Depends on the resistance and configuration (single or dual coli) of your atomizer. Try to start around 6 watts (per coil) and adjust up (or down) to your liking.
 

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Would you reccomend a box mod, or stick battery..all the sticks i have seen are 4.8 volts max or does it matter. All my tanks are dual coil kangers and im using 1.5 coils.iwant better taste

I never go higher than that with my stock dual coils, but I like to have a bit of overhead in my batteries. Egos begin to struggle at the highest voltages.

That said, I wouldn't buy a box mod quite yet if I were you. I have an MVP2 and a new iStick and they are nice, but iStick really needs work--the 510 connection is weak and the voltage is calculated is Means rather then RMS, making the device widely inaccurate and too hot at lower settings--wait for revision 2 :D; the MVP2 is great, even though it's bigger and less powerful (but accurate), but MVP3 with Evolv's DNA chipsets are about to be released. Wait for the MVP3 and then make you decision--even if you decide that you don't want it, the prices for MVP2 will probably start coming down.

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If you want better taste you may need to start rebuilding your Kanger coils--or move up to RBAs... There are many good tutorials on YouTube and here on ECF. Or check Kanger's new 1.2Ω BPDC coil--with Japanese cotton--compatible with all Kanger dual-coil tanks. I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how it works.
 

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I personally find the Kanger dual coils (1.5 and 1.8) perform best around 9.5 - 10 watts. It gives a nice warm full vape for the technology. I just started using a Nautilus mini with a 1.8 ohm BVC and I find that I have to push my MVP to 11 watts to get a satisfactory vape from that - not as much vapor and not that warm but the flavor is better. I really think it might need around 12 watts.
 
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