Questions about the VV Grand

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I hope this isn't stupid to ask but why can't this mod just use one big battery instead of stacking? I am not going to ever stack batteries (too scary) but i want this mod because it has a side button which might be better for my hands.

Another dumb question is about the chip lifespan? I would be keeping it in one setting would that make a difference? I want something that can last for a few years or be easily replaceable. Does it have a fixit kit like my Reo Mini?

I have arthritic hands that cause carpal syndrome flare ups. My hands are weak and small. Otherwise i would just get a Grand but alas my hands would disagree!

BTW I love my little REO and named her "Karma" Just wanted to get a bigger REO if possible.

 

[JC Okie]

I don't know all the technical explanations about the stacking batteries, but I do know that with the VV Grand, they have to be. The chip regulates the volts, and it has to have something to regulate, and one battery will only give you 3.7 volts.....so there'd be no way to get to the high end (5.5 volts) unless the power is there. But...I'm convinced they're safe. The spring is the safeguard built into the mod itself, plus the batteries use safe chemistry.

I understand about liking the side button....I like it.

The Grand is not much bigger than the Mini....but it might be easier to push the button without cramping your hand. It's not too big for small hands....heck, it's the size of a business card. The button's on the top, but it might just be easier because of the "reach" being a little longer.

The Woodvil models (none available at this time, but there will be at some point in the future) have side buttons. That's really what you need. You might watch the Classifieds and try to pick up one of those.....but they don't come up often.

The vv chips work well, but there is the possibility that your chip could go out....if that's the case, the VV Grand would have to be sent in to be fixed. There's not a repair kit for that.

 

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Thanks, I will think about getting the REO Grand instead because I do want the bigger bottle size and the battery life is longer.

Sometimes my hands hurt so bad it makes me very sad!

I don't even want high volts I just want the style of the VV REO GRAND. Wish it would be possible to just have it set low and work.

 

[super_X_drifter]

I absolutely love my VVG. The size, being only slightly taller than a grand and that sweet trigger finger button are a perfect fit.

I have ZERO fear of stacking batteries in this device. As long as they are AW IMR 18350. The spring and vent hole in the door are there in the event that any type of failure ever happened. I'm convinced that the dangers related to battery stacking are directly related to battery quality and user stupidity.

I mean, on another note, I carried a little plastic bomb around in my pants, right next to the family jewels for 30+ years to light my cigs.

If you have a quality mod like a REO, and quality batteries like AW IMR 18350s, you have less to worry about than you did using a bic lighter, and I never even gave that a thought when I used one

I say get you a VVG and enjoy some additional comfort while attaining vaping excellence

 

[JC Okie]

If you could get past the fear of stacking batteries, the VV Grand would be the perfect REO for you. I used to worry about stacking batteries, but I don't worry about the VV Grand at all. These are the safest batteries out there, and the VV Grand has its own built-in safeguard as well. I vape at low watts, and rarely ever even move the dial. But the button is perfect, and the vape is very consistent. And it has the 6ml bottle. Maybe do some more research about what makes stacking batteries dangerous and then see if you can get past the fear. Your hands would thank you.

Jan

 

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Can you use one of those 2cent safety devices. They are round discs, would it fit/work to make the batts safer?

I will read about stacking batteries but i know you have to be careful about the charging and keeping the pairs together and the charging together. I think maybe i won't be good at remembering even with marking them. I suffer from CRS...

Does anyone know a good link?

 

[super_X_drifter]

Can you use one of those 2cent safety devices. They are round discs, would it fit/work to make the batts safer?

I will read about stacking batteries but i know you have to be careful about the charging and keeping the pairs together and the charging together. I think maybe i won't be good at remembering even with marking them. I suffer from CRS...

Does anyone know a good link?

The VVG has built in protection in the chip. .

 

[RedhatPat]

The kick, crown, short-stop, and safety fuse are only for the mechanical reo's. If you have a VV Reo it's taken care of for you like super_X & JC said. Reminds me of a Provari in a way. I say that because I have a 'vari mini next to me and I use the same 18350s from provape interchangably with my VVG. As long as you don't put them in backwards or use magnets, then you won't have to sweat the VVG. It was a good call to make the most user-friendly model reo the safest one too, in my opinion.

I would recommend a new VVG over any other model, even a woodvil, to anyone new to Reos and/or bottom feeders in general. If stacking batteries is the only wishy-washy thing holding you back from buying one, than I would say pull the trigger and buy one. In this case brother, dive-in the water is fine! If your situation is the same as mine! Whoa that rhymes!

ETA: I'd like to see an 18650 vvg but I figured theres a reason there isnt one
RHP

 

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Well I am feeling more assured already. Thanks for the poem

btw it would be sister not brother

All of you have got me thinking maybe there is hope after all. Just need to find out how long the chip lasts, because isn't that what makes it work and i hate sending things to get repaired! If the chip doesn't fail then how long is its lifespan? Does any one know?

 

[RedhatPat]

I should just call everyone George because I'm never right about genders anymore. All I know is you're one cool looking alien poking another alien in the eye. Now, having said that, I like you I really do and here's why, we think about the same.

Here's my first thread in reoville http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/392249-reo-me.html and ordered my first Reos mod (vvg silver) on march 15, 2013 so I can only speak for myself but the chip and everything is running smoothly going on 3 months so far,

and an easy answer to any possible trips to Maine would be to own 2 Reos! (If I can afford it, I double up on everything that's great to me, even lamps)

ETA: Soon someone will be around to back up their answers to your questions with things like links and proof, probably will come to you as a chimp or a monkey, a lot wiser reonauts, and so forth. Until then let me say, welcome more2! You don't know it yet but you will buy a VVG so that makes you one of my peoples

RHP

 

[nerak]

Here are the Specs of the VV Grand:

15 watts maximum power output
Wheel adjustable voltage dial
Improved battery life 2 x 's avg. , we have a new controller that is MUCH more efficeint. avg. 12 hrs per charge
batteries (18350)
3-3 to 5.5 volt adjustment
Reverse battery protection
Over current protection
Over temp. protection
THere is NO cutoff circuit built into the controller , it goes until the batts die
The electronics meaning the vv chip has a 3 month warranty after that I will have to charge people for a replacement

 

[oldbroad]

Thanks, I will think about getting the REO Grand instead because I do want the bigger bottle size and the battery life is longer.

Sometimes my hands hurt so bad it makes me very sad!

I don't even want high volts I just want the style of the VV REO GRAND. Wish it would be possible to just have it set low and work.

i, too, suffer from arthritis. I had a grand and had to sell it because it hurt too much to use the top button, even with the delrin cover. I got two vvg's and have had no issues with the arthritis, because of the side button and the fact that, tho it's a bit taller than the grand, it's slimmer so easier to hold and the edges are slightly curved. I just leave the setting at it's lowest and I get plumes of vapor and a great throat hit. Of course i know use only RM2 rebuildables.Yho, when I was using atties, it was still a good throat hit and lots of vapor.

 

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I have 2 weeks to make a decision between the Grand or the VV Grand.
VV has never been something i liked but the style of that mod is awesome

Maybe/wish it could be made smaller like REO Grand size and just be mechanical with a side button. Plus I like just having 2 battery sizes to buy and since i already use the 18650 in my other mods then it is more economical.

Decisions would be easier if i was rich

 

[JC Okie]

The VV Grand is only about 3/4" taller than the Grand. The side button is sweet. They're both great, and it is a hard decision. I'll say that I used my Grand all the time until I got my VV Grand. Now I almost never use my Grand. And I almost never change the setting on the VV, so it's not that I needed/wanted variable voltage. But the vape stays totally consistent because of the vv chip regulating the output. With the Grand, there was a drop off from 4.1 volts when the battery was fresh, down to around 3.7 or a little below when I could tell I needed to switch batteries. With the VV Grand, there's almost no drop off until the last couple of draws when I know it's time to switch out batteries. So....it's (for me) not the variable voltage that is it's best feature; it's the consistent vape quality from beginning to end.

Not trying to sway you. The Grand being all mechanical is a plus. There's less chance of anything going wrong with an all mechanical mod, and you can wash it and pretty much repair it yourself. But it does have the top button, so wouldn't be much of an improvement over the Mini for your hands.

I'm a girl with small hands, and the VV Grand is not too big for me, and it feels less awkward to hold and fire than the Grand in some ways. It fits more naturally in my grip, and my firing finger just naturally squeezes when I'm ready for a draw. Once you get used to it, your Mini will feel tiny.

Jan

 

[RedhatPat]

I am not a girl with small hands, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once and I can say that unless you're comfortable field-stripping a Reo Grand then I believe a VVG is the better option because of the built-in protection. In 3 months it'll mark my 6th straight month with this device and then I'll come back and report on it for ya. Hopefully by then you will have bought one and been happily vaping off one.

Do not resist :::wiggles fingers::: you will buy a VVG and it may even be Silver-Silver :::wiggles fingers some more:::

RHP

 

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are you trying to hypnotize me

Perhaps there is a thread with happy long time users using VV Grands. That is my main problem because i don't know how long the chip can last for it's normal lifespan. And i don't know how much the replacement/repair chip would be.

 

[JC Okie]

How about just PM Rob (redeyedancer) and ask him those very questions. He'll give you a straight answer including how much it would cost to replace a VV chip. I know they're guaranteed for the first 3 months, then he'll charge to fix them, but I don't know what he charges.

 

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I will do that. Thanks

 

[wabbit]

I love my VVG.

 

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Thanks for the Specs and i have a question about this THere is NO cutoff circuit built into the controller , it goes until the batts die

If you have the voltage set for 3.7 then your battery will still go until it is below that (dead) ? No matter what you set it for it will still vape after it drops below the setting? Yes or No

I have trouble with understanding things that is why i said yes or no to the question i asked.

Here are the Specs of the VV Grand:

15 watts maximum power output
Wheel adjustable voltage dial
Improved battery life 2 x 's avg. , we have a new controller that is MUCH more efficeint. avg. 12 hrs per charge
batteries (18350)
3-3 to 5.5 volt adjustment
Reverse battery protection
Over current protection
Over temp. protection
THere is NO cutoff circuit built into the controller , it goes until the batts die
The electronics meaning the vv chip has a 3 month warranty after that I will have to charge people for a replacement