Questions about withdrawal.

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ravendove

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So, about a week ago I ordered the standard starter kit from Volt. I went with the manual's, and ordered the liquids I'll need. Though I haven't received my products just yet, I'm really excited. Infact, I was so excited, that I was distracted from the fact that I will go through withdrawal symptoms. (I completely forgot to even think about it!) But I'm not worried about the nicotine, since I have that covered. What I'm concerned about is the chemical additives in cigarettes. I know there will be some withdrawal, I just don't know what to expect. Is there anything I should do to prepare myself for a complete switch from the analog to the e-cig?
 

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things that come to mind are: increase your water intake as vaping can and will dry you out. it also helps to flush all the toxins out.

vaping to a comfortable level, when I first started, I would vape so much that it would make me nic sick, only cause of all the different flavors I kept getting. Also your taste will be off for awhile as your taste buds will be healing from all the analog damage.
 

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One thing I did was several months before switching to e cigs I changed brands to American Spirit. 100% additive free tobacco. Taste good too. The idea being that much less chemicals to withdrawl from. Actually felt some minor withdrawls for a few days after switching over but I knew this was a good thing. Anyway my point is if you feel the need to cheat go with the American Spirit brand and you'll be putting that much less poison back into you that you'll have to withdrawl from. Hope this helps.
 

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Most common withdrawal symptoms are dizziness (for increased oxygen in your blood), coughing (to get all the nasty stuff out of your lungs) and dehydration. How long you have them and when do they start varies, I started to feel light headed after a week and it lasted a couple of days; on the other hand, I never had the cough, since I had smokers cough and it just went away.

Just google "cigarrete withdrawal symptoms" and those are the ones you could have, except for the nic cravings.
 

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things that come to mind are: increase your water intake as vaping can and will dry you out. it also helps to flush all the toxins out.

vaping to a comfortable level, when I first started, I would vape so much that it would make me nic sick, only cause of all the different flavors I kept getting. Also your taste will be off for awhile as your taste buds will be healing from all the analog damage.

Totally agree with this ^^

I did the same thing, vaped so much that I felt lightheaded & got a queasy stomach (I still do that to myself sometimes late at night w/this blasted vanilla because I like it so much!) Water seems to be absolutely KEY in keeping yourself feeling good. My taste buds were all kinds of crazy in the very beginning, and they're still changing, it seems. None of this was anywhere near comparable to what I experienced quitting smoking cold turkey or w/patches, etc. It was night and day for me & any symptoms I had/have are completely manageable.

Good luck!!!!!!
 

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The first time I went to the E-cig, I did have withdrawals from the other stuff. I felt antsy, and wanted to smoke a cig, but pushed through it.

This time, I didn't have the withdrawals from the other stuff. If necessary get some extra batteries, during the first few days, running out of battery is not a good thing (not that it ever is).

You may need to try different levels of nic as well. I smoked ultra lights, but use 24mg juice to fight the cravings (trying to wean to 18 as much as I can). The impression that I get is that different people are affected differently by nic levels. What may make a 3 PAD Marlboro red smoker feel sick may not fight the cravings of an ultralight smoker.

This is just my opinion on the matter. YMMV
 

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I don't know that you withdrawl from the other chemicals in analogs? I'd never heard that. My withdrawls seemed mostly psychological, tried to light my ego once :p With the proper amount of nicotine, the rest seemed a fairly easy mind over matter: craving a smoke, have a vape. Vape until you don't want to smoke anymore, of course recognizing & avoiding overdose :) So far as the proper level of nicotine for any vaper? That's a question only the vaper can answer, it seems. Every smoker smokes differently & every vaper vapes differently. I like to "pipe" it alot, just take puffs into my mouth without inhaling much, so I go through alot of juice but still don't smoke. That's the hardest thing about vaping, finding what works for you & makes withdrawls non-existent... though you will crave the vape instead! :p
 

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Only you will be able to determine that. It will happen when you are ready. Don't rush it and just listen to your body - that, at least from my point of view, is the only way to do it.

I started 4 days ago from normal cigs to PV , started to get the above mentioned withdrawal symptoms on day 2.

Currently using the 12mg juice, am wondering when it will be the best time to reduce the nicotine level to 6 or 0?
 

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Unless your e-juices are as bitter as analogs (unlikely!) you can also get some indigestion from lack of something bitter after meals. My herbalist told me that a lot of smokers don't put out the bile DURING meals because their body "knows" they will smoke after the meal and bitter tastes cause bile release, on the assumption that you ate something that needs extra digesting.

The fix for this that she recommended was herbal bitters, a few drops on the web between thumb and forefinger, lick it off after dinner. I noticed gourmet olives are also quite bitter, and I noticed that herbal bitters are much more popular in countries that are too far north to grow olives. So I'd say one or the other after meals for awhile until your digestion gets used to the lack of icky on your tongue after meals. I'm using olives for now but I might buy a little bottle of bitters to keep in my purse for restaurants that don't have olives :toast:
 

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It is probably different for everyone depending on the extent of your habit i.e. how many years, PPD, brand... But I felt considerably strung out and gross for about a week and a half after dropping the analogs. As mentioned before, WATER IS KEY. Eating well, getting good sleep and sufficient excercise will help speed up the process I would guess.
 

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Actually they say withdrawing from nicotine is EASY. No physical pain, just an empty kinda feeling. I thinks it's really ("Trying to forget about something,...Thinking about it!")...
I know they say the (because it's vapor, and not smoke that really penetrates deep!,...like to preserve meat!) that one may want to increase the mg for this reason, or work through the nasal more.
Can't say I've begun (10 HOURS WITHOUT A SMOKE...AND I'M REALLY LIKING THIS!...WOW!) but all I can say is (pardon the languauge:)...Who freakin cares!....(like,...they have Altoids tablets with carconegens / chemicals, so we don't withdraw...Christ!)......Go through it man!....THIS IS A BLESSING!...and I'll bet we hardly feel it,...(unless we "think" we do huh?)
Anyway...Good advise from the vapor people none the less.
PS ....Dizzy?....Cool!,....That's what kept me smoking in the beginning.......ENJOY IT WHILE YOU CAN!
 

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Yeah, like mentioned above... varies by person.

Some say "get some dark chocolate" to compensate for that MAOI adjustments. Some say "I just use snus (or WTA juice)". Some just "tough it out" and others don't have any issues. Make sure you get enough nic... newbies often have a hard time when they are new... and going through withdrawal at the same time doesn't help. And of course the usual "drink more water". Some taper off, others quit the stinkies on day one and don't look back.

For me... the cravings lasted about two weeks. But.... I ended up at 5 volts and higher watts than I got with the stock stuff to keep me off the cigs. I miss the form factor and the easy of use, but not all the nasty health issues, stink, or costs. So it's an adventure. :) The two weeks went by fast in hindsight. Hang in there.
 

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I see a few people commenting on bile... This may seem silly but, what is it and how is it related to smoking?
Bile is made by your liver and released into your digestive system by your gallbladder. It helps digest things. Too much can give you the trots, though.

Tasting something bitter causes extra release according to a lot of herbalists. "Liver tonics" sometimes work by just being bitter, though there are other kinds of herbs for liver healing, which are unrelated.

So smokers (and coffee drinkers if their coffee is nasty-enough) get extra bile from the bitter taste after the meal, and the body eventually compensates by releasing LESS during the meal than a non-smoker would get. So when we quit smoking, unless we always have something really bitter after a meal, we go through a phase where we are not getting enough. So temporarily having a bitter "digestif" after a meal, then tapering it off, can help with quit-smoking-indigestion which some smokers get.

If you always have bitter coffee or bitters after a meal anyway, or if you tended to not always smoke right after meals, then this would not be relevant -- the purpose is to replace the digestive stimulation of the after-meal cigarette with something that is not an analog but is still bitter, that you can taper off at your convenience.

If you are not noticing any indigestion then forget the whole thing.

And, veggies and water are a big help anyway, both with smoking cessation AND with the dehydration we vapers seem to get. (Why?????)
 
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