I dropped a TON of cash when getting started. I think you almost have to in order to find the right fit. But once you find it, the costs level out quickly and you will end up saving substantial $$$.
Quitting smoking sucks! A little of my story, suggestions would be great!
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I dropped a TON of cash when getting started. I think you almost have to in order to find the right fit. But once you find it, the costs level out quickly and you will end up saving substantial $$$.
Hello and welcome to the forum. Sailorman covered things pretty well, but if you're hesitant about DIY at this stage, Aroma Ejuice sells premade WTA liquids. I've tried them and they do seem to have a bit more oomph than regular eliquids.
I don't have a signature with the "analogs avoided" below yet...but I've been smoke free because of the vaping for 2 months 23 days now (Quit date March 1, 2012). Absolutely thrilled about it so far. Use 24mg juice....Hit it a LOT when you feel cravings. It has always worked and I was between 1 and 1.5 pack-a-day Marlboro Lights smoker for 25 years.
Riva 1100 mah batteries 4.2 volt
1.7 ohm Smoktek cartos single coil
Been working like a charm...just keep hitting the vape if you ever feel cravings. I've only had maybe 2 or 3 moderate temptations so far. Where the $$$ is concerned I know I am past the "break even" point already with equipment vs. cigarette costs....Probably passed that point three weeks ago and my vape habit only costs 25% of what analogs did (and I'm buying from a vendor! No Do it Yourself yet!!)
Good luck on your journey....I emphasize, just ALWAYS treat your PV like a cigarette in times of need.
Riva 1100 mah batteries 4.2 volt
1.7 ohm Smoktek cartos single coil
Been working like a charm...just keep hitting the vape if you ever feel cravings. I've only had maybe 2 or 3 moderate temptations so far. Where the $$$ is concerned I know I am past the "break even" point already with equipment vs. cigarette costs....Probably passed that point three weeks ago and my vape habit only costs 25% of what analogs did (and I'm buying from a vendor! No Do it Yourself yet!!)
Good luck on your journey....I emphasize, just ALWAYS treat your PV like a cigarette in times of need.
Two and a half months cigarette free, and Even with crazy late night purchases going a bit on a frenzy, I am totally saving money in the long run.
Cigarettes are expensive where I live at nearly 10 bucks a pack. So that could explain the bulk of the savings. I was at nearly a pack a day, but even at a half pack a day that still is 5 bucks daily, 35 per week!
I have found comfort in the variety of flavors and strengths, I have some juice that doesn't have any nic at all...Just for enjoying the flavor and keeping my hand to mouth fixation busy. I have not gained any weight and actually have lost a little! There have been times where I have felt frustrated and overwhelmed by choice and having to make decisions. I continue to tell myself how far I have come and each and every cigarette that is not smoked is a victory in itself.
Good luck to you and thanks everyone that contributes, you all have played a role in my success! This forum and your contributions continue help me keep a positive perspective. Thank you all.
Cigarettes are expensive where I live at nearly 10 bucks a pack. So that could explain the bulk of the savings. I was at nearly a pack a day, but even at a half pack a day that still is 5 bucks daily, 35 per week!
I have found comfort in the variety of flavors and strengths, I have some juice that doesn't have any nic at all...Just for enjoying the flavor and keeping my hand to mouth fixation busy. I have not gained any weight and actually have lost a little! There have been times where I have felt frustrated and overwhelmed by choice and having to make decisions. I continue to tell myself how far I have come and each and every cigarette that is not smoked is a victory in itself.
Good luck to you and thanks everyone that contributes, you all have played a role in my success! This forum and your contributions continue help me keep a positive perspective. Thank you all.
Well nearly two weeks in. I had half a cigarette today, after a full week with out any. I found it in my car wile looking for my cell phone. Most of the draw was not wanting to toss it (being a card carrying cheapskate). It was stale and gross, but it tasted like when I first started smoking. It's really strange how much my taste has changed, but not much for food, just vape and smoke.... oh and whiskey...
I am now tasting vape again, though it is quite different than the when I first started. I'm still using the same stuff (Bloog's 555). I don't love it, but it works until I have a $100 to drop on some labware, nic base, and an assortment of flavors.
I'm also wanting to upgrade my e-cig. I no longer feel the need to smoke something that feels like a cigarette. In the first few days I think that helped, but now something that looks more "interesting" would work for me.
Any suggestions on that would be great. I want something on the low price side with good bat life, and I'd rather not have a stupid light on it. I guess I may ask that again on a new thread, but not tonight.
Edit note:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
I am now tasting vape again, though it is quite different than the when I first started. I'm still using the same stuff (Bloog's 555). I don't love it, but it works until I have a $100 to drop on some labware, nic base, and an assortment of flavors.
I'm also wanting to upgrade my e-cig. I no longer feel the need to smoke something that feels like a cigarette. In the first few days I think that helped, but now something that looks more "interesting" would work for me.
Any suggestions on that would be great. I want something on the low price side with good bat life, and I'd rather not have a stupid light on it. I guess I may ask that again on a new thread, but not tonight.
Edit note:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
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You don't even need $100. 120ml of 24mg PG base is $7.50. 120ml of VG is $3.19. A Glass Beaker is $4.00. A buttload of syringes and blunt tipped needles and some bottles will run you $10 and Flavorings are $1.50 each. That's about $25 plus flavorings for enough supplies to make a couple hundred ml of juice, or a few hundred if you want a lower nic level.
Prices are from Wizardlabs.us The best prices on DIY stuff on the internet.
Then, grab a Kgo for $45.00 and a $7 box of cartos. So, you can end up with 200-300ml of juice and a new e-cig that'll last you 10 hours between charges, all for $100 shipped and get change back. Here's the kgo.
KGO
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
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Well, I guess I don't need $100 worth of stuff, but I'm having a hard time trimming it down.... In my cart right now I've got about $25 of flavors, $35 in labware, and $25 for nic and PG (larger amounts)... well that adds up to 85, but still. I guess I don't need all the labware, but it would be nice to have, and I don't need all those flavored, but how can I not try a lot of them when they are only $1.50 each? Plus they have free shipping on orders over $65!
I'll have to look into the Kgo.
Maybe even an Ego Twist with variable voltage to play withbnrk
I've looked at those. Seems cool, but I don't know if I really need variable voltage, I'd rather just have high voltage all the time and take smaller drags, or tap a manual button for lower heat.
I think I want to stay away form automatic systems for my next one.
Gotta take it one day at a time, but you're definitely on the right track. I supplimented my vaping with analogs for a bit, but once I ran out of my last pack in January, I haven't looked back. In the beginning it was really difficult just vaping (1 pack a day or more) especially when I was drinking! I feel your pain, but keep trying different combinations and you'll find it! Good luck!
Try a higher mg of nic as opposed to a larger amount. For example, 120mg of 24mg costs 7.50 but the same amount of 48mg is only $10 and 60mg is less than $13. You can cut it with cheaper VG and save some money. Also, the glass labware is tempting, but the plastic stuff is a lot cheaper and works just as well. And I've also discovered that it's easy to buy too many syringes. I make about 200ml a month and use 2 plastic beakers, a little funnel and 4 or 5 syringes. I have a ton of labware I never even use. It's easy to go overboard in your mind.
Also, download the free juice calculator ejuicemeup. Google it. It's the best calculator out there and it'll tell you how much PG and VG you're going to need to cut higher nic concentrations down to useable base. I buy 100mg and make 30mg unflavored base to make a 24 or 18mg final product. The higher the concentration of nic you use, the less it costs.
Dr.Jerry, this is the one I've been happily using for a good while now & chose it mainly for its "bang for the buck" appeal. It has not disappointed: Crystal Clear Vaping I bought mine from a different vendor for less money about 7 months ago, but it came with fewer features & extras, did not come with free shipping and at that time included only a tiny (3ml?) bottle of juice. However also at that time there was no issue with the switches on these units; Smoktech had not yet attempted to upgrade the switch to include a 5-click shutoff feature. It took them awhile to get the bugs ironed out and some of the questionable 5-click "upgraded" models are still being marketed for less money, but beware: they may not work with atomizers or cartomizers below 2.0 Ohms resistance. The ones being sold by CCV are rated to function stably at 1.25 Ohms; personally I only go as low as 1.5 Ohms on my E-Power, usually 1.7 or 1.8, but it's nice knowing I could vape a lower resistance atty if I cared to try one.
The E-Power uses replaceable rechargeable batteries and a replaceable switch, either of which (or probably one of each) are cheaper than replacing the battery/switch unit of a comparable proprietary PV such as an eGo, KGO, Riva, etc.
Best of luck, & Happy Vaping!
The E-Power uses replaceable rechargeable batteries and a replaceable switch, either of which (or probably one of each) are cheaper than replacing the battery/switch unit of a comparable proprietary PV such as an eGo, KGO, Riva, etc.
Best of luck, & Happy Vaping!
The more I look at PV's the more I think I could make one. What I'm looking for happens to be very simple; a thing to hold a battery, with a button switch, and a threaded end that fits a mass produced atti. Maybe starting with a little flash light would be simplest.
The hard part is picking what kind of atti or carto to work off of. 510's seem to be a popular one. I really don't know much about this subject. I understand how the Bloog's cartos work, but that's the only one I've played with thus far.
The hard part is picking what kind of atti or carto to work off of. 510's seem to be a popular one. I really don't know much about this subject. I understand how the Bloog's cartos work, but that's the only one I've played with thus far.
It seems that you like to use your hands. In that case I would suggest a simple box mod to start. Maybe a 3.7 volt no bells or whistles.
Cost about $10. For sure look into a Genisis based rebuildable atty like the orginal genisis, dans gtus, zenisis and so on.
They work great and save lots of money.
Cost about $10. For sure look into a Genisis based rebuildable atty like the orginal genisis, dans gtus, zenisis and so on.
They work great and save lots of money.
wow, I just started a little searching on that, now I'm thinking about ripping apart my hair dryer to harvest some nichrome wire... that's likely too thick to work, maybe some old guitar strings. But I think that's something I could put together with out spending much at all. I have some pyrex tubing kicking around, though I don't have a great way to cut it.
Well anyway, thanks a lot! I'll be looking into that a lot more. And if I build something I'll post about it here (well in the appropriated ECF forum).
Before you rip apart anything you might need check ebay for some wire hihi about 6$ and off you go.Happy hunting and building
They ain't rocket surgery, that's for sure. The kind of connection to use is a no-brainer. A 510, hands down. You have to make sure you use a heavy enough switch. Make sure the venting is adequate and minimize wiring connections. Go to the Mod section. They've been making them out of anything that'll hold a battery; flashlights, butane lighters and even a pistol.. That one was interesting. The cartomizer protruded from the barrel. Not something you want to vape at an airport, for sure.
thevaporroom.net Many PG/VG mix options! Great people, tons of sales and free stuff. Best juice I have ever tasted with amazing vapor plumes!
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Making your own decent atty takes a bit more finesse than making a simple mod. You need a good wicking material and either nichrome or kanthal wire of the right gauge. The stuff in a hairdryer is far too heavy. So is guitar string. You need about 32-38gauge It's not expensive, just tedious. I'd stick with a mod and get a re-buildable atty before you start re-inventing the wheel. You can get the right materials for rebuilding an atty at a couple sites. CloudsOfVapor is one.
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WOW!!! I feel your pain, Honestly!! In my first few months of vaping i had a hard time with flavor loss as well. Even now, I've been smoke free for over 7 months and I can't vape one flavor for more than 4 days before I can't hardly taste it anymore. I also find alot of flavors to be too weak, and I personally like a good throat hit. I'm now moving towards Genesis type mods. One, because I'll know exactly what kind of metal is being used, etc. and Two for better flavor, more customization and, and reduced costs. ha ha ha OK, so that was 2,3,4.
Right now I'm using standard rez attys with a tank, and a Variable voltage mod and I'm more satisfied than I ever was with the EGO style battery setups. They were ok, but they never quite got the job done. These newer more affordable VV mods on the market are a Godsend!!! Plus, Don't forget that everyone's taste buds are different. It kind'a sucks, but you just have to get out there and try different flavors until you find what works for you.
I do, However, recommend ecblendflavors.com. they have some really tasty flavors made here in the US, they're very affordable, and the turn around time on orders is pretty dang quick.
I think that in the end it comes down to the person trying to quit smoking. There were numerous times that I wanted a ciggy, and i was a 2 pack/day smoker before i quit, but i just kept on trying different things. dual coils, tanks, dripping, mega's, mini's, ha ha ha ha.
Wow!!!,.... OK, If I don't stop I'll be telling my life story all in one post. Good luck to all the beginners out there!! Vape On!!!
Right now I'm using standard rez attys with a tank, and a Variable voltage mod and I'm more satisfied than I ever was with the EGO style battery setups. They were ok, but they never quite got the job done. These newer more affordable VV mods on the market are a Godsend!!! Plus, Don't forget that everyone's taste buds are different. It kind'a sucks, but you just have to get out there and try different flavors until you find what works for you.
I do, However, recommend ecblendflavors.com. they have some really tasty flavors made here in the US, they're very affordable, and the turn around time on orders is pretty dang quick.
I think that in the end it comes down to the person trying to quit smoking. There were numerous times that I wanted a ciggy, and i was a 2 pack/day smoker before i quit, but i just kept on trying different things. dual coils, tanks, dripping, mega's, mini's, ha ha ha ha.
Wow!!!,.... OK, If I don't stop I'll be telling my life story all in one post. Good luck to all the beginners out there!! Vape On!!!
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