Racism in America - from a minority viewpoint

[gashin]

Why do caucasian people hate themselves so much and are afraid of showing pride in their culture? It seems like Americans are willing to bend over backwards for foreign cultures and minorities to the point that they're willingly degrading their own identities in the belief that they NEED to accept and integrate foreign culture and ideals. I've known a lot of white people and it seems like they're afraid of promoting their cultural backgrounds or the accomplishments of their ancestors (White people have invented the majority of social and technological advances) in the fear of being called "racist." This has spilled over into court rulings and glamorous media portrayals that seem to overly benefit minorities, one example being the recent case where the results of a Firefighter advancement test were discarded because the top scorers were white, and the overly positive portrayal in the media of minorities being as morally competent as whites despite the fact that the majority of prisoners in many prisons are minorities. This has also spilled into education with the tendency for higher education institutions, school loans, and scholarship programs to favor minorities. It's sort of a reverse affirmative action that's going on and it annoys me. What especially annoys me is the fact that minorities in this country are MORE racist than the white majority - for example, many ethnic asians show blatant racism against blacks, mexicans, and other asians (I'm asian) while many South Americans I know also show obvious racism against blacks.... It seems a lot of white Americans are now taking pride that Obama was elected BECAUSE he is black and also in the fact that foreign culture (Japanese, Chinese, and even Arab) is flourishing here at the expense of our own culture.... What's even worst is that it seems like caucasians are even promoting the take-over of our companies by foreigners with almost no alarm being sounded..... I don't get it

 

[emus]

Try visiting a country where one religious group is trying to get a foot hold in an area that was inhabited by another religious group. I've been there and it is scary. I have traveled and it is absolutely unbelievable what is going on in this world. Not much in local news or world news about some big problems.

Maybe we better change topic before we get banned.

 

[Ryle]

Gashin .. I thought I was the only one that noticed such things... this country at least (I don't get out much so I cant speak for anywhere else) has gone from racially discrimitive to racially favoritist and it really irritates me too... if you use the "......" even jokingly or hell.. even discribe someone as "black" you're critisized the same as if you had KKK or a swastica tattooed to your forehead... but they can call white people whatever they want and it's ok? And for the record.. just because I've got to say it somewhere where it's relitivly safe (meaning I can't get punched in the face for it) "African american" is NOT a proper classification of a "person of color" living in the USA who's family has been here for the last 100 years... "_____ American" was meant to be used for imigrants... .. and lets not even get into the point about the fact that not all "people of color" are from Africa.. I would think calling them "african americans" would be even more rude than calling em black.. or brown.. or caramel colored.. it's an adgitive.. not an insult..

Also.. what do they call "people of color" in the UK anyway?? African UK-ians?? .... hmmmmmm gonna have to hunt down a brit and ask



(BTW.. not meaning to offend anyone.. just giving my $0.02)

 

[CellWho]

If you didn't mean to offend anyone, perhaps you should have thought twice about posting.

This thread is inappropriate!!!

 

[playerags]

If you didn't mean to offend anyone, perhaps you should have thought twice about posting.

This thread is inappropriate!!!

I couldn't disagree more!!! Us "European Americans" shouldn't be allowed to express our feelings? Your comment is exactly what he is talking about. And personally, I don't intend to offend anyone but if it does I don't care. I can say, where I come from, I've never been denied anything because of my color. But the thought of people that think I should have to work harder at things because of my color does chap my .... But that's okay.

 

[Elendil]

This is a timely thread considering the recent Supreme Court decision

White firefighters win Supreme Court appeal - Yahoo! News

 

[happily]

If you didn't mean to offend anyone, perhaps you should have thought twice about posting.

This thread is inappropriate!!!

this thread was 4 hours old and getting buried, when u decided to bump it

 

[CellWho]

this thread was 4 hours old and getting buried, when u decided to bump it

You are 100% right. My bad.

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

This is NOT an inappropriate thread, it's another viewpoint of someone in our country making an observation on a cultural shift.

The anger and hostility whipped out by humans (and, deep down, that's what we are......HUMANS!) over the color of one's skin or ethnic background is degrading to us all. We're cross-fertile, meaning we all come from the SAME genetic material....wether your skin is black, yellow, white, red, or pink with purple polka-dots! Not one better than the other.

And, it's symptomatic of the nanny state/political correctness BS, this shift - where the majority is made to feel no pride in their accomplishments, and instead feel guilt that they worked harder and longer for their success.

 

[mamu]

it's symptomatic of the nanny state/political correctness BS...

That statement sums it up for sure.

 

[Linthorn]

I don't mean the topic (which is fertile discussion ground, by the way), I mean its presence here. In the 17th century, coffee was banned for the common folk in many European contries because, among other reasons, it created revolutionaries. People would gather in coffee shops, drink coffee (caffiene), and discuss politics. Apparently the caffiene both energized the conversation and made the drinker think differently. Sometimes it encouraged action. The state saw this as subversive and so coffee houses were shut down and the drink was strongly curtailed or banned.

Why do I bring this up? Well, this is an e-cigarette forum. We are presumably vaping away and loading up on nicotine. From out of nowhere we are discussing social issues unrelated to smoking or e-cigs. Seems that the combination of nicotine and a virtual gathering are having the same effect the 17th century coffee houses did.

I find this very interesting.

Oh, and I'm not the least bit offended!

 

[surbitonPete]

This subject is far too risky for a white person to make a comment on.

 

[MrsJaaxx]

At this point, I really just would like to see skin color or ethnicity not being an issue when it comes to employment/promotion/getting into college. There was a time in the U.S. when it was reasonable to make it law for a certain number of minorities to be hired/promoted/accepted into college, because minorities really were very much discriminated against unfairly. Today, the job/promotion/college acceptance should be based on who is the most qualified, most experienced, and most capable-- the best person for the job, regardless of the color of their skin. You hire the best qualified. If he's black, fine. If he's white, fine. Hispanic, absolutely. When he's doing his job it certainly isn't going to matter how much pigment is in his skin--what will matter is how competent he is at his job.

 

[gashin]

Exactly what I'm talking about! It seems like race is the 4th rail of politics if you're white. Seriously, white people are being treated unfairly and are expected to be totally free from even having the concept of race in their mind. In contrast, minorities openly attack white people with racial epithets and they're considered funny.... In fact I will go as far as saying that minorities in this country view the caucasian majority as chumps to be taken advantage of and this ideal is being promoted in the media and in colleges which teach anti-American rhetoric and portray the white man as being the criminal masterminds behind most violent acts - name one recent movie where a black man or mexican role was depicted in a criminal light. In reality, the media is portraying minorities as being perfect human beings, who are totally free from bigotry and highly patriotic. From my own personal experiences and relationships with my minority friends - black, mexican, peruvian, south asian, east asian, and filipino - I've found that they actually view white people as an oppressive force that needs to be taken advantage of and they enjoy every event in which a minority benefited at the expense of white people or when a minority surpasses a white person in any field. They don't view this country as being united - rather they view their own ethnic cliques as fighting to get above the others. This contrasts with the way it seems that white people are promoting the disproportionate rise of minorities with unfair economic, educational, and social benefits - I'm being honest here - minorities do not view these advantages as being fairly given, rather they take them for granted see it as a way they can take advantage of the white majority and gladly do so.

Gashin .. I thought I was the only one that noticed such things... this country at least (I don't get out much so I cant speak for anywhere else) has gone from racially discrimitive to racially favoritist and it really irritates me too... if you use the "......" even jokingly or hell.. even discribe someone as "black" you're critisized the same as if you had KKK or a swastica tattooed to your forehead... but they can call white people whatever they want and it's ok? And for the record.. just because I've got to say it somewhere where it's relitivly safe (meaning I can't get punched in the face for it) "African american" is NOT a proper classification of a "person of color" living in the USA who's family has been here for the last 100 years... "_____ American" was meant to be used for imigrants... .. and lets not even get into the point about the fact that not all "people of color" are from Africa.. I would think calling them "african americans" would be even more rude than calling em black.. or brown.. or caramel colored.. it's an adgitive.. not an insult..

Also.. what do they call "people of color" in the UK anyway?? African UK-ians?? .... hmmmmmm gonna have to hunt down a brit and ask



(BTW.. not meaning to offend anyone.. just giving my $0.02)

 

[gashin]

Yeah it's like white people can't touch anything regarding race with a 100000000000000ft pole.... and this has resulted in them creating laws and institutions that DISCRIMINATE against white people!

I couldn't disagree more!!! Us "European Americans" shouldn't be allowed to express our feelings? Your comment is exactly what he is talking about. And personally, I don't intend to offend anyone but if it does I don't care. I can say, where I come from, I've never been denied anything because of my color. But the thought of people that think I should have to work harder at things because of my color does chap my .... But that's okay.

 

[gashin]

Exactly right. Race shouldn't be an issue - it's an even worst problem when ethnic groups discriminate against themselves! American culture seens to value diversity to the point that hard work and actual intelligence are no longer valued.....

This is NOT an inappropriate thread, it's another viewpoint of someone in our country making an observation on a cultural shift.

The anger and hostility whipped out by humans (and, deep down, that's what we are......HUMANS!) over the color of one's skin or ethnic background is degrading to us all. We're cross-fertile, meaning we all come from the SAME genetic material....wether your skin is black, yellow, white, red, or pink with purple polka-dots! Not one better than the other.

And, it's symptomatic of the nanny state/political correctness BS, this shift - where the majority is made to feel no pride in their accomplishments, and instead feel guilt that they worked harder and longer for their success.

 

[gashin]

. Hopefully it will start a revolution (in thought at least) because as a minority who has greatly benefited from the countless accomplishments of and priviledges given to me by white people, I am sad to see that they are being programmed into lacking pride because of the chance of being labelled a "racist."

I don't mean the topic (which is fertile discussion ground, by the way), I mean its presence here. In the 17th century, coffee was banned for the common folk in many European contries because, among other reasons, it created revolutionaries. People would gather in coffee shops, drink coffee (caffiene), and discuss politics. Apparently the caffiene both energized the conversation and made the drinker think differently. Sometimes it encouraged action. The state saw this as subversive and so coffee houses were shut down and the drink was strongly curtailed or banned.

Why do I bring this up? Well, this is an e-cigarette forum. We are presumably vaping away and loading up on nicotine. From out of nowhere we are discussing social issues unrelated to smoking or e-cigs. Seems that the combination of nicotine and a virtual gathering are having the same effect the 17th century coffee houses did.

I find this very interesting.

Oh, and I'm not the least bit offended!

 

[happily]

And, it's symptomatic of the nanny state/political correctness BS, this shift - where the majority is made to feel no pride in their accomplishments, and instead feel guilt that they worked harder and longer for their success.

I have to agree right here and then stay out of it(kinda like religion) I've always been a firm believer than the DO-er's of the world get left behind because they are too busy handling there own business to sit at the steps of the capital and whine for handouts

 

[gashin]

That's an ideal that I believe will never be reached within our life times. Just look at how minorities have a disproportionate amount of representation in government - this isn't by chance but by careful planning by party heads to ensure the minority vote. Often times, these candidates do not represent all of their constituents fairly, but attempt to create and pass bills that will unfairly benefit minorities. I believe that this trend will continue as long as caucasians allow themselves to be taken advantage of. Another example is the strong ideal of diversity perpetuated by the media and higher education - they see diversity as being superior to hard work and intelligence. Entire generations have been indoctrinated in these values and it will be a hard fight to acheiving a race-free society.

At this point, I really just would like to see skin color or ethnicity not being an issue when it comes to employment/promotion/getting into college. There was a time in the U.S. when it was reasonable to make it law for a certain number of minorities to be hired/promoted/accepted into college, because minorities really were very much discriminated against unfairly. Today, the job/promotion/college acceptance should be based on who is the most qualified, most experienced, and most capable-- the best person for the job, regardless of the color of their skin. You hire the best qualified. If he's black, fine. If he's white, fine. Hispanic, absolutely. When he's doing his job it certainly isn't going to matter how much pigment is in his skin--what will matter is how competent he is at his job.

 

[solonguniverse]

I figure that the reason caucasians are willing to discriminate against themselves is because it's widely understood that we do receive preferential treatment in a lot of situations its just not advertised as loudly. I'm not going to elaborate, simply stating a fact.