RBA is much harsher than my nautilus?

[iliketovapesafely]

So I usually use a nautilus on my provari but since i started DIYing my own ejuice I started using an RBA more so I can switch up flavors etc...

But for some reason the RBA is way harsher even though the vapor production isnt nearly as much as on my nautilus.

At first I would have people try flavors and everyone, EVERYONE coughs from the rba... but they can hit the nautilus fine.

I thought it was the nic but no its definitely something about the RBA, what could be causing this extra harshness?

 

[ckquatt]

What RBA are you using? And how is it set up? Whats the nic level in your juice? Need some more info.


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[iliketovapesafely]

It's the RBA that came with the nautilus (dont really know the name). Im starting to think it has to do with the volts to watts conversion. Using my 1.8ohm coil 4 volts = 7.2 watts. Nic level is 3-6, depending on what flavor im using.

My friend built the RBA i have no idea what the resistance or ohms are on it, so I think I may be outputting in the 15-20 watt range which recent studies have shown releases more "bad" chemicals like formaldehyde.

In another thread I posted someone mentioned that the RBA must have lower resistance than the nautilus because I was getting E1 error... so if the coils are say .5ohm and im running 4 volts through it how many watts am I at?

For now, I'm gonna stick to my nautilus..

 

[Baditude]

Need more info. What rba specifically? What ohm is the coil? What nicotine strength? Which version of Provari? (2.5, P3, Radius, Procyon?)

 

[Baditude]

My friend built the RBA i have no idea what the resistance or ohms are on it, so I think I may be outputting in the 15-20 watt range which recent studies have shown releases more "bad" chemicals like formaldehyde.

In another thread I posted someone mentioned that the RBA must have lower resistance than the nautilus because I was getting E1 error... so if the coils are say .5ohm and im running 4 volts through it how many watts am I at?

Your Provari has a built-in ohm meter, so if you know how to work your Provari you can measure the resistance of the coil. If you are going to be dealing with buildable coils, you also need to have an ohm reader.

The Provari doesn't do watts. Its variable voltage only. If you are getting an E1 error, it means you either have a short circuit in the atomizer, or the atomizer resistance is lower than the Provari can fire. The Provari can not fire a coil less than 1.2 ohm and it won't fire consistantly if the coil has a short.

Learn to use an ohms law calculator (Google it). Any two known values will provide the two missing values. So o.5 ohms and 4 volts means you'd be using 32 watts (power), which I already told you the Provari can't do.

It appears you don't know your equipment and haven't researched in how to use it properly.

 

[iliketovapesafely]

Ok so the provari is reading 1.3ohm for the rba coil. So my guess was right that I'm hitting that 15-20 watt range on the RBA vs 7 watts on my 1.8ohm nautilus coil... could this be the culprit?

Tonight I had it turned up to 4 volts so I'm getting about 13 watts which is roughly double the wattage I get on my nautilus 1.8 coils (7 watts) so this accompanied by the chemicals released in the 15-20 watt range is the culprit?

BUT I usually run it at 3.5 volts on the RBA which is supposed to be 9 watts so its about the same as 4 volts on the 1.8 nautilus coil = 7 watts. I don't think this is the issue, it must be something else...

Is it maybe the material the RBA coil is made of ?

Which is "safer" to use? Nickel, Canthal, etc...

so much science and math... haha

 

[Baditude]

What kind of RBA is it? A dripper, a genesis-style or kayfun-style tank?

You need a Temperature Control mod to use nickle wire. The Provari is not TC.

I think you are over-thinking the "chemical release" part. Your issues seem to be an ohms law issue as well as not knowing/understanding your equipment. Getting an E1 error generally means the processor in the Provari detects a short or you are using a voltage setting the processor can't complete. A short can cause a harsh vape. Do you have another mod you can run the RBA on? What are the results of that?

 

[Izan]

So I usually use a nautilus on my provari but since i started DIYing my own ejuice I started using an RBA more so I can switch up flavors etc...

But for some reason the RBA is way harsher even though the vapor production isnt nearly as much as on my nautilus.

At first I would have people try flavors and everyone, EVERYONE coughs from the rba... but they can hit the nautilus fine.

I thought it was the nic but no its definitely something about the RBA, what could be causing this extra harshness?

Do you have the VVTF V1 or V2 RBA

cheers
I

 

[tj99959]

You can make a RBA as harsh (or not) as you wish. However you will not learn how to do that through osmosis.

 

[Baditude]

My friend built the RBA i have no idea what the resistance or ohms are on it,

You can make a RBA as harsh (or not) as you wish. However you will not learn how to do that through osmosis.

His friend might be a great coil builder. There is just as great a chance that he's a terrible coil builder.

The original poster is obviously a newbie. He doesn't seem to know what gear he has or how to use it, so that makes it extremely difficult to help the poor guy.

 

[tj99959]

His friend might be a great coil builder. There is just as great a chance that he's a terrible coil builder.

However it always amuses me how many out there think coil resistance is the only thing that makes a RDA a good vape. He might want to check the wick.

 

[leftyandsparky]

However it always amuses me how many out there think coil resistance is the only thing that makes a RDA a good vape. He might want to check the wick.

Evil wicks are a bad thing!

 

[iliketovapesafely]

I change the wick daily.

I understand my equipment, I just dont know exactly how or what my friend used to build this coil on my RDA "dripper". You guys keep saying you dont know what an RDA nemesis is... its the RDA that came with the nemesis. It has the nemesis logo on it.

The wire question was simply for future and also possibility that he may have used a different type of wire than what im used to. So what provari doesnt use nickel, I never said I was trying to. Just wanted to know the best type of wire for a coil. I was only talking about wire because I have a kanger topbox coming in with 3 different types of coil.

What else do you guys need to know? I provided all the info that was asked of me. I know my equipment just fine. I know how to calculate watts.



So far im thinking the coil type or build is the culprit. Honestly its so much harsher than it should be.. I havent actually "changed" the coil in about a week, just burned the gunk with some dry burns and ran it under some water to "clean" it

can anyone think of possibilities?

 

[iliketovapesafely]

VVTF V1

Heres some pics maybe someone will recognize this RBA

https://db.tt/7n6cuCla
https://db.tt/7Q6Qa88C

 

[Izan]

Does that RBA have two coils in it? one horizontal and one vertical (with NO wick)
( is that the Atmomixani /nemesis logo on it?)




Please be safe
I

 

[ENAUD]

What's going on with that wire on the other side???

Maybe you should just stick with the Nautilus for now...

 

[iliketovapesafely]

What's going on with that wire on the other side???

Maybe you should just stick with the Nautilus for now...[/QUOTE]

I disconnected one coil because the provari was giving me E1 error with 2 coils so I just use one ... didnt have the screw driver so I just disconnected the second one

I think I figure it out honestly i changed the wick again and cleaned the coils again, dripped some juice and it was smooth. Proabbly a combo of dirty wick and high nic juice

 

[WharfRat1976]

Heres some pics maybe someone will recognize this RBA

https://db.tt/7n6cuCla
https://db.tt/7Q6Qa88C

LAWLZ [emoji12]

 

[WharfRat1976]

What's going on with that wire on the other side???

Maybe you should just stick with the Nautilus for now...

This pic is an RDA. It looks like an IGO variation. It has nothing to do with your Nautilus of course. The coil is fried. The wick is fried and the center post is spun out of position and looks fairly corroded and "dirty."

I would throw it in the garbage and get a new RDA of your choosing and have someone coil and wick it that knows what they are doing.

Whoever set this up did not know what they were doing. It can be salvaged but I would throw it away.

 

[ENAUD]

This pic is an RDA. It looks like an EGO variation. It has nothing to do with your Nautilus of course. The coil is fried. The wick is fried and the center post is spun out of position and looks fairly corroded and "dirty."

I would throw it in the garbage and get a new RDA of your choosing and have someone coil and wick it that knows what they are doing.

Whoever set this up did not know what they were doing. It can be salvaged but I would throw it away.

That was the OP's pic, I linked it to make it easier to see. Way too many discrepancies and contradictions in the OP's posts, I stand by, Just stick with the Nautilus for now...