RBAs are they stronger?

[John_]

I've been vaping on RBAs more specifically RDAs almost exclusively since my first month of vaping. I've grown accustomed to the TH, the flavor, and the vapor from these things. You get the right coil or coils on one, get a nice juice, and bam vaping nirvana. I've stepped all of my juices to 6mg or lower because the TH on the higher nic juices just shreds my throat. My friend who has recently started vaping (eGos and clearos, CE4s mostly) wanted to try my Helios, thinking nothing of it I let him take a drag and he immediately started coughing, his eyes watered up and everything. He didn't do a very big lung inhale, I figured he'd be fine. He usually vapes 12-18mg juice in his clearos so I figured 6mg would be fine for him. I guess he just wasn't used to all of the vapor? Anybody have a similar experience? I had forgotten how strong/brutal RBAs can be if you aren't used to them. Do I just have a strong build or was he just not used to it?

Build:
VHO Helios on top of a VHO Titan, 0.7 Ohm dual 18 gauge micro-coil wicked with cotton

 

[LeoRex]

Dude... think about it... your bud has been vaping the equivalent of wine coolers and you poured a bottle of 151 down his throat.
That's awesome!

Just one of those coils puts out more than what he is used to... bet it put some starch in his collar.

 

[StarsAndBars]

Does he normally take direct lung inhales? I tried one the other night and thought I was about to explode!

 

[John_]

He wasn't really hurt, he coughed a few times and then he was fine. I added to the comedy by doing a huge lung hit and letting out a cloud right after he was finished coughing and I knew he was okay.

I know the difference between wine coolers and 151 but it just hadn't crossed my mind since I hadn't used anything other than 151 in awhile.

 

[metamorpheus]

I think I deterred a few smokers from vaping at work like that unfortunately. When I had my protank I vaped strictly 26.4mg e liquid. I had a rebuilt atomizer in my protank to make denser vapor. 4 people at work tried that and hit it like a weak disposable and ended up coughing on it and got an instant 1 hit buzz. After the first one I warned people it was strong and to take it easy, but my idea of take it easy was different than theirs apparently. Now I have a KTS and use an Igo-W dual coil at .8 ohms with XC-116 with 12mg liquid and warn people who want some to take a 2 second drag..they still cough.

Some people like that though. One of my coworkers asks for a couple drags a few times per shift even though he coughs every time. Its funny because he says it makes him cough every time, but it's like a fetish. I replied, "you gotta cough to get off right"? My other coworker bought an MVP after trying my setup and my brothers multiple times when a shop opened a few doors down from our work. He has a clearo and is vaping 24 and I still see him coughing on it sometimes, then he asks me to make him some of the 26.4

 

[metamorpheus]

I think I deterred a few smokers from vaping at work like that unfortunately. When I had my protank I vaped strictly 26.4mg e liquid. I had a rebuilt atomizer in my protank to make denser vapor. 4 people at work tried that and hit it like a weak disposable and ended up coughing on it and got an instant 1 hit buzz. After the first one I warned people it was strong and to take it easy, but my idea of take it easy was different than theirs apparently. Now I have a KTS and use an Igo-W dual coil at .8 ohms with XC-116 with 12mg liquid and warn people who want some to take a 2 second drag..they still cough.

Some people like that though. One of my coworkers asks for a couple drags a few times per shift even though he coughs every time. Its funny because he says it makes him cough every time, but it's like a fetish. I replied, "you gotta cough to get off right"? My other coworker bought an MVP after trying my setup and my brothers multiple times when a shop opened a few doors down from our work. He has a clearo and is vaping 24 and I still see him coughing on it sometimes, then he asks me to make him some of the 26.4

So, stronger? Most definitely. You reach a much higher plasma peak of nicotine when you have more vapor per inhalation. More nicotine at a more rapid rate will give you a buzz you couldn't reach with a factory clearo or carto. When I first got my Igo-W and vaped 26.4 out of it, it took my breath away..literally. Felt like I had asthma and had to catch my breath after each puff. Crazy buzz, made my eyes skip around like I ingested a certain tranquilizer.

 

[23skidoo]

Build:
VHO Helios on top of a VHO Titan, 0.7 Ohm dual 18 gauge micro-coil wicked with cotton

Do you have to use a pipe bender to wrap a micro with 18 gauge wire? 20 or so wraps per coil?

 

[John_]

Do you have to use a pipe bender to wrap a micro with 18 gauge wire? 20 or so wraps per coil?

I torch the coil, wrap it by hand, squueze it with tweezers, and then torch it again to make it hold the squished shape. Count the wraps if you want, I don't remember off the top of my head.

I think I deterred a few smokers from vaping at work like that unfortunately. When I had my protank I vaped strictly 26.4mg e liquid. I had a rebuilt atomizer in my protank to make denser vapor. 4 people at work tried that and hit it like a weak disposable and ended up coughing on it and got an instant 1 hit buzz. After the first one I warned people it was strong and to take it easy, but my idea of take it easy was different than theirs apparently. Now I have a KTS and use an Igo-W dual coil at .8 ohms with XC-116 with 12mg liquid and warn people who want some to take a 2 second drag..they still cough.

Some people like that though. One of my coworkers asks for a couple drags a few times per shift even though he coughs every time. Its funny because he says it makes him cough every time, but it's like a fetish. I replied, "you gotta cough to get off right"? My other coworker bought an MVP after trying my setup and my brothers multiple times when a shop opened a few doors down from our work. He has a clearo and is vaping 24 and I still see him coughing on it sometimes, then he asks me to make him some of the 26.4

So, stronger? Most definitely. You reach a much higher plasma peak of nicotine when you have more vapor per inhalation. More nicotine at a more rapid rate will give you a buzz you couldn't reach with a factory clearo or carto. When I first got my Igo-W and vaped 26.4 out of it, it took my breath away..literally. Felt like I had asthma and had to catch my breath after each puff. Crazy buzz, made my eyes skip around like I ingested a certain tranquilizer.

26mg? that's crazy I never went that high, probably only would've needed 1 hit, but I like the flavors too much which is why I've always stuck to the lower mg juices even when on clearos and cartos. I can understand the coughing thing sort of, Every now and then I want to get punched in the throat, not all the time though.

 

[Lessifer]

Do you have to use a pipe bender to wrap a micro with 18 gauge wire? 20 or so wraps per coil?

I'm pretty sure he meant 18ga inner diameter, as in wrapped on an 18ga needle, or at least I hope so.

 

[Thrasher]

there is also the fact if he's just starting out his throat isnt healed up yet and a big ol TH is gonna whack ya out

 

[23skidoo]

I torch the coil, wrap it by hand, squueze it with tweezers, and then torch it again to make it hold the squished shape. Count the wraps if you want, I don't remember off the top of my head.

I'm pretty sure he meant 18ga inner diameter, as in wrapped on an 18ga needle, or at least I hope so.

Glad someone got my attempt at a joke.

I've got a single micro in an Igo-L that is at 1 ohm, and I'm looking forward to having my buddy who vapes a Protank 2 and complaining about not getting a big enough hit off of it get all bug eyed when he tries it out this weekend.

 

[Lessifer]

I have two converts at work, one who is as much into vaping now as I am, and one who refuses to try any of our new gear because 1) it's too much for him and 2) he doesn't really want to know any more than how to refill his aero tanks and recharge his spinners. My wife uses a protank, and when I rebuild a head for her and try it out, it always seems anemic to me compared to a .8 ohm micro in a dripper, though she did just ask me to set up an aga-t auto dripper for her.

 

[metamorpheus]

26mg? that's crazy I never went that high, probably only would've needed 1 hit, but I like the flavors too much which is why I've always stuck to the lower mg juices even when on clearos and cartos. I can understand the coughing thing sort of, Every now and then I want to get punched in the throat, not all the time though.

started out with store bought 24mg and got into DIY juice. One batch of blueberry I accidentally added a little more nicotine and liked the throat hit of the slight boost over the 24. When I work I don't have time for a long vape session so I liked having a strong one to vape real quick and get a nice buzz. This gives me soar throats with my RBAs, so I stepped down by half.

 

[LeoRex]

Right! Those little ce4 clearos really only work around 7 to 8 watts.

I started vaping on stuff like that... if someone would have given me the .65 dc RDA I'm vaping now, my first draw probably wouldn't be pretty either. ;-)