Rebuilding For Beginners

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Spazmelda

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I really agree with this. The screw made my life easier by far. I started rebuilding protanks and vivi novas too. I also used a length of 32ga kanthal folded in half and twisted as a threading needle to pull my cotton yarn thru the coil. Good luck.

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I do that for cotton, but wrap the coil around the wick for silica. That is one way that micro coils are easier. You don't have to worry about holding the wick and wrapping around it and can focus on getting the coils nice and pretty. Magnifying reader glasses also help me a lot. My eyes are getting old.
 

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Thanks Spaz for adding your description!
I have watched many more videos today and I don't think this will be hard to do. Just a little practice to get it right. Now I have a couple of questions.

What are the advantages of building a "regular" coil and building a micro coil?
Why do some double the wire and twist it together before they wrap the coil?

I am sure I will have more questions as I do this but I want as much info as I can before my supplies arrive and get started.
 

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I'll let someone else address the advantages of a micro coil. I never got the hang of them in a protank, although I'm using one right now in a Kayfun. I can't really compare protank with a regular vs. protank with a micro.

Twisting the wires together lowers the resistance of the wire. It's like using a thicker wire. Sometimes people do it just to get lower resistance without having to buy a different gauge wire. There may be other advantages to it, like better performance or something, but I don't know.
 

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I posted my thoughts on the advantages / disadvantages of the 'micro' style earlier in the thread.

You can think of twisted kanthal as like having a dual coil on the same wick.

You've doubled your electrical conductivity (halved your resistance), so it's probably more of a sub-ohm style thing, though I don't doubt it's possible on a regulated mod.

From my (limited) understanding of vaping physics, the appeal is exactly the same as thickening up the wire any other way: it will increase surface area, theoretically creating a more even heating of the wick, and less burning, at any given temperature. In fact, the fact that it's two wires twisted together will increase surface area more than using a single thicker wire of the same total resistance.

I've never tried it, but trust me, you'll have enough on your plate doing a standard build to begin with - don't worry about that stuff yet.
 
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I never, ever thought I'd build my own coils. I'm just not mechanically inclined in the least. Now DIY liquids I could get into and would be right up my alley but building coils? Not going to happen. Then curiosity got the best of me. I had planned on just making a "normal coil". Read a lot but I'm a visual person so YouTube was the best option for me.

Watched a couple of videos but still thought "I dunno, will probably end up blowing my face off" then I watched RipTripper's video on making micro coils. It looked incredibly easy and suddenly I wanted to try it. Ordered some kanthal online but I was itching to get started and couldn't wait so drug the husband out to the local vape shop and bought some there. Then hit Harbor Freight for a couple of other items. Set up a lamp at the kitchen table and set to making some micro coils. I made 12 that first night (and only one failure). They all came out to 1.7 to 2.0 ohms (I used rolled up cotton for wicking material). Honestly, the hardest part in the whole process was learning the right amount of cotton to use and threading it through the coil. To my eyes a micro coil looked easier to me than regular coils.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw my experience out there. Good luck in whatever you decide.
 

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I forgot to mention earlier that the day I went out to the local shop to buy some kanthal one of the workers there said he'd be happy to show me how to build the coil. We have a lot of vape shops in town but this particular one has the best reputation, by far, of all of them (which is why I went there). So I did have the added benefit of being shown in person how to do it. It helped but just the video alone was very good as well.
 

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THis is the method I use to make the micro coil (NOTE: I do not use the jig I just wrap around a 16 gauge syringe needle).
How To Make A Perfect Micro Coil With The Darkzero Coil Jig - YouTube

Once the coils is made it is put in the protank head just like any other coil. Then the cotton is inserted.

I really prefer micro coils with cotton wick I think I get much richer vapor and flavor.
 
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