Recommendations for a significant upgrade

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manfellow

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I would definitely avoid a cartomizer tank if I were you because they can be a huge pain in the ... to refill sometimes.

True but now I'm loving the Triple V Sidewinder carto-tanks from valleyvapes.com.
Just pop the fill plug and refill from the side.
I haven't had any sort of leakage/gurgling/problems of any sort.
My Vivi Novas always seem to work great and then all of the sudden every once in a while dive into a session of problems and I end up swapping heads and fiddling with it until I do something mysterious which gets it working great again. :?:
They are definitely a super bang for your buck even with the occasional "what the hell is going on with this thing?"
 

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My 18350 batteries chug along at 5v with a 2 ohm carto on my Provari. If you were to get a fixed volt REO then the 18350 battery should last a fair bit longer than a 650mAh eGo battery. Unless you begin using lower res cartos with the REO and your not used to using low res cartos with your eGo. The 18350 battery will typically last a bit longer than a 650 eGo though. Most 350s r 700mah. Mine lasts me almost alll day. I don't vape constantly, never putting it down, but I do vape a lot. So, thats my experience. No battery has disappointed me so far except the cig-alikes lol.
 
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This talked me out to the hybrid and into a Provari. I am going to order:

Provari Mini (black)
Standard charger
Car adaptor
Extension cap
2 18350
2 18490
Ego adaptor
Carrying case

From Madvapes, the metal STV Vivi Nova tank with an extra pack of 2.4ohm coil head and short drip tip.

I have lot of juice and ego clearomizers/tanks. Am I missing anything for vaping bliss?
 

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I think youre going to be VERY satisfied with that decision.

Heres a simple equation to help you figure out the target range for the voltage of your juice/atty combo.

Take the atomizer or cartomizer resistance from the package or from clicking the Provaris button until you can check the atomizer ohms. Try to get in the habit of doing this if you mix resistances in your attys/cartos.It can save you fried atties, bad tastes and worse.

Then add 2 to the atties resistance number. So a 1.7ohm atty would be 1.7 +2 = 3.7 volts. Thats a good starting point to get the maximum flavor and vapor from your juice and you can bump it up or down from there to suit your individual taste, throat hit and vapor preferences.

For dual coil you double the atomizers resistance so 2.0 x 2 equals 4 and then add 2 (this number stays constant) to get 6.0 volts.

Low resistance equals a cooler vape while higher resistance and dual coil gives you a warmer vape.

Hope that helps and congrats again on your purchase youre going to love it.
 

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Vivi Novas dont do a Provari justice by half. If you really want to taste your juice either go with a carto/tank setup...I prefer Phiniac with 1.7 ohm Smoktek pre-punched and flanged cartos....or go with an RBA or just drip.

Ive found that testing the two setups, a vivi nova and my Phiniac side by side that the difference in flavor and vapor is like going from an ultra light analog to a full flavor.
 

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Vivi Novas dont do a Provari justice by half. If you really want to taste your juice either go with a carto/tank setup...I prefer Phiniac with 1.7 ohm Smoktek pre-punched and flanged cartos....or go with an RBA or just drip.

Ive found that testing the two setups, a vivi nova and my Phiniac side by side that the difference in flavor and vapor is like going from an ultra light analog to a full flavor.

Ok. Good. It's not just me. I'm very happy with my provari and a carto tank. I was just testing the waters with all this rebuildable stuff. Started cheaply of course... And not impressed with the viva nova at all.

soshot Congrats on the choice of the provari. There are a lot of great options out there. But, I think you'll find like I and many others have, (Because I never thought I'd put up that kind of money for a PV), you will never be sorry you bought a provari.

I'm curious how the viva nova works out for ya. A LOT of folks love them.
 

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Apparently there are the original "Vision Vivi Nova" and just "Vivi Nova". Vision is definitely the one to get. GotVapes.com is where I buy them, but there are other authorized resellers of course.

The first thing I do when I get them is toss the silica wick and replace it with my own cotton/bamboo DIY wick. The taste is day and night! There's a good thread on this: "Wicks: safe vs. dangerous". The veterans on that thread really like Vivi Novas once they are rebuilt ;) It'll take you a week to read up though...

The provari is pricey but king in the vaping world in terms of reliability.
 

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Oh god zapped. I couldn't have explained things better and the add 2 or x2 for dual coils is a great recommendation. And your recommendation for using CARTOMIZERS instead of vivi novas is good too haha. I just found that out for myself. Vivi Novas really aren't all that great honestly. They look fantastic and its nice to have a couple around in case you run out of cartomizers. They are nice to have because you can rebuild them if your going through tough times and you can't afford a new carto.. But wow, I was really surprised to find out that the vivi novas just DON'T perform well when the juice level in the tank is below 3 quarters filled honestly.
 

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The provari mini is on my list, but I'm unsure screwing a tank to the top will be durable enough.

I know you decided on the Provari, but to set your mind at ease………a few days after I got mine, my girlfriend knocked mine off a table. The tank got cracked, and it sheared some of the threads off of the cartomizer that was in it, but the Provari doesn't even show cosmetic damage. She did something similar to my Vision Spinner a week or so before I got it, and the battery's been flaky ever since.

Oh god zapped. I couldn't have explained things better and the add 2 or x2 for dual coils is a great recommendation. And your recommendation for using CARTOMIZERS instead of vivi novas is good too haha. I just found that out for myself. Vivi Novas really aren't all that great honestly. They look fantastic and its nice to have a couple around in case you run out of cartomizers. They are nice to have because you can rebuild them if your going through tough times and you can't afford a new carto.. But wow, I was really surprised to find out that the vivi novas just DON'T perform well when the juice level in the tank is below 3 quarters filled honestly.

Yeah…that doesn't really match my experience. Different notes in the flavor do come out, but it's not like it's a "one's good, the other's bad" difference for me. If you clean the VNs well enough to keep them working, they can easily outlast the 2 or so cartomizers that you'd use in the same amount of time, and you can change their flavors easily. And juice level has nothing to do with their performance for me.

Conversely, someone recommended smoktech cartomizers. Never had good luck with them. Like……the good ones would last for 3-5 tanks worth of juice. The bad ones wouldn't make it thorugh the first one. I've never had a boge or a VN that performed that badly, and they're very much on my "do not buy under any circumstances" list.
 

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I'll just say that with the vivi novas, I felt like I had to be watching them. I had to be caring for them to work well constantly. with cartomizer tanks, you throw them in the tank and apart from them leaking until you take a couple sucks and then dry off the bottom, they work flawlessly until the tank is bone dry.
 
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dude get a good cartomizer tank first. then try the vivi novas. i promise you'll enjoy the carto tanks. Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks or IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us! or even smoktech dual coil cartos work well around 5v with the provari. Just get one. Even if its a cheap smoktech just to try it out. You can't go wrong with a carto tank.
 

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I'll just say that with the vivi novas, I felt like I had to be watching them. I had to be caring for them to work well constantly. with cartomizer tanks, you throw them in the tank and apart from them leaking until you take a couple sucks and then dry off the bottom, they work flawlessly until the tank is bone dry.

I'll give you that. But I kinda like how the juice looks swirling around the tank and how the wicks go clear-ish when they're properly soaked.

dude get a good cartomizer tank first. then try the vivi novas. i promise you'll enjoy the carto tanks. Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks or IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us! or even smoktech dual coil cartos work well around 5v with the provari. Just get one. Even if its a cheap smoktech just to try it out. You can't go wrong with a carto tank.

I'd agree except about the smoktech. They're definitely worth trying. I like what my A-juice tastes like out of a carto better than a VN. My B-juice seems to work a bit better in the VN. Fortunately, that works fine for me.

But I just can't bring myself to use pyrex. My juices aren't tank killers, and I don't like how fragile pyrex can be or how it breaks when it does. But that's just me.
 

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Thanks for the recommendations.

I'm probably looking for an 18350 mod. I travel a lot and typically keep the PV in my pocket. With the egos, I have a lot of problems with the tanks breaking and/or leaking (because they get bent around as I move). I really need something that will fix that problem and I'd rather not have to carry around additional tanks/clearomizers.

I'm disappointed to hear the hybrid or genesis mods leak. I thought they would be better and much longer lasting.

The provari mini is on my list, but I'm unsure screwing a tank to the top will be durable enough.

Super T's stuff is nice. They seem to be mostly marketed for dripping and prefer a tank.

The REO Mini looks goods. I do a lot of quick stealth vaping, especially at work. Unvaped juice in the drip will seems like it would be a problem.

I really like something with more vaping power than the egos that I can pop fresh battery into, PV and go without a lot of worry.

Feel free to suggest a PV tank system that might work me. I lean toward a one piece solution, because I haven't had much luck putting something together.

ProVari mini + J-Tank. The seals on a J-Tank are amazing. I can literally hold my provari by the tank and shake it without it sliding off. It's actually quite difficult to put the carto in compared to other tanks I've had.

OR maybe a smoktech locking one piece UDCT tank.. I have one and due to the smoktech carto I have for it I don't use it. Not until my Boge laser drilled cartos get here at least..

3ml J-Tank:
http://www.electronicstix.com/collections/standard-j-tanks/products/standard-j-tank-3-3ml

5.5ml J-Tank:
http://www.electronicstix.com/collections/5-5ml-j-tanks

Smoktech UDCT locking one piece tank:
http://www.hoosierecig.com/Smok-Tech-UDCT-locking-one-piece-cartomizer-tank_p_375.html

I have no experience with the 5.5ml J-Tank but I assume the seal will be just as strong as the 3ml.

The smoktech UDCT has a piece on the bottom that threads on and, if your carto has the lip around the bottom, it will lock it in place. My experience is the carto that comes with the tank (1.5ohm dual coil smoktech) is a POS. I use Dekang watermelon juice, 100% PG, and it can't even wick that so.. I don't recommend this and if you do buy it make sure you put a better DCT carto in it.
 
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I'll just say that with the vivi novas, I felt like I had to be watching them. I had to be caring for them to work well constantly. with cartomizer tanks, you throw them in the tank and apart from them leaking until you take a couple sucks and then dry off the bottom, they work flawlessly until the tank is bone dry.

I agree 100%. I was using a vivi nova for a while then I got my ProVari and J-Tank in the mail and have only used the vivi nova once since then. Well, I screwed it onto my ProVari this morning to try it out after a week or so not using it and 3 toots later I switched right back to my J-Tank.

I'm a carto tank kind of guy. As well as a kGo w/ mega carto while at work (with the occasional ProVari toot) kind of guy.
 
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