Hi I am new to using an rda I have purchased the wotofo recurve and bought the coilology SS prebuilt coils 7 in 1 performance pack, I can't find anywhere a suggested wattage and as I am used to prebuilt tank coils with recommended wattage it is a little confusing so any help would be appreciated thanks.
Recommended wattage coilology 7in1
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Start low...work your way up to what works for you.
Yeah I find I'm liking them at the higher end my mod can go to 70-80 Watts but I don't want to do anything that's dangerous as I'm not sure if that's safe or not?
Agree with the above. Also experiment with the air flow options of your atomizer to find what works best.
You should be relatively safe if using a regulated mod. What batteries are you using?
I use an eleaf istick power 80w it has built in batteries so I don't know. I have a vandy vape pulse 80w coming though I will be switching to that when it arrives I don't know which batteries it takes but I have some 18650 batteries already, but I know some mods can take other batteries too what difference do they make?
First, I'm surprised they're working well at 70-80W in a Recurve. Not the smallest single coil atty out there but still not all that big. Even with higher mass complex coils I rarely exceed 50 W, but you may very well prefer a warmer vape than me.
Battery safety us an important topic in vaping. With a built in battery you're relying on the manufacturer to have installed one with the proper rating. With the Pulse arriving, it's your headache. While it is a regulated mod which adds a degree of safety thanks to built in circuit protections, running it at 70-80W is best done with a 30A rated battery, 18650, 20700, or 21700. The size affects total charge as in mAh, which gives you a feel for how long it will run. The true CDR rating tells you how many amps it will safely provide without getting too hot or doing bad things. If you are commited to 18650s in it, then a Samsung 20S will provide 30A and 2000 mAh of capacity. Sorry this isn't the latest rating chart by Mooch (I know bad me. I'll update this evening) but here's a list of both batteries and at the bottom trusted vendors. While it is out of date the ratings on the batteries shown hasn't changed although some newer 20700 and 21700 should be on there
Regardless with the latest ratings the 20S would be the winner if you only use 18650s.
(Mooch I promise not to do that again. I'm running late and can't find a newer one in my photos on the phone. Honest)
Edit: this is the latest. There should be another one coming out in May
Battery safety us an important topic in vaping. With a built in battery you're relying on the manufacturer to have installed one with the proper rating. With the Pulse arriving, it's your headache. While it is a regulated mod which adds a degree of safety thanks to built in circuit protections, running it at 70-80W is best done with a 30A rated battery, 18650, 20700, or 21700. The size affects total charge as in mAh, which gives you a feel for how long it will run. The true CDR rating tells you how many amps it will safely provide without getting too hot or doing bad things. If you are commited to 18650s in it, then a Samsung 20S will provide 30A and 2000 mAh of capacity. Sorry this isn't the latest rating chart by Mooch (I know bad me. I'll update this evening) but here's a list of both batteries and at the bottom trusted vendors. While it is out of date the ratings on the batteries shown hasn't changed although some newer 20700 and 21700 should be on there
Regardless with the latest ratings the 20S would be the winner if you only use 18650s.
(Mooch I promise not to do that again. I'm running late and can't find a newer one in my photos on the phone. Honest)
Edit: this is the latest. There should be another one coming out in May
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If there is enough length on the legs you could add a wrap to it. It will give you more surface area and higher resistance. You can get the same clouds with less power.
If you plan on using the pulse at 80W you should get some 30A batteries. I would recommend some good 20700s. Any 18650 that high in amp rating will likely have a low mah rating. A mod that takes 21700s would be a better choice IMO.
So what benefits will I get for having these higher batteries? I don't know nothing about this sorry can you break it down for. Me
Super simple no math equations
Up to 60W a 20A battery is adequate
Up to 75W a 25A battery is adequate
Up to 90W a 30A battery is adequate
This is based on basic electrical equations, we usually call Watts law but it's not really a law like Ohms law but does the same thing for regulated mods (Ohm's law works for unregulated mechs).
The idea is that the battery will provide adequate current even under the maximum stress on the battery.
For improved runtime a larger 20700 or 21700 is preferred with equivalent Amp ratings.
For wattage any higher a multibattery mod is used. Then the math is per cell. So 2 20A batteries would be good to 120W, 2 25A 150W etc.
A 30A 20700 would be preferable for the Pulse if the option for purchase exists. Better runtime.
@shaunislegend, you could download Watt Calculator from the Play Store if you have an Android phone. It'll give you a rough idea of wattage range of coils, and it's free at least.
Thanks I'll use that as a rough indicator, I just read that with premade coils it's not as simple as looking at the resistance because other factors come into play?
Yes, it's true. Mass comes into play as well.
Because higher mass coils require more power to reach temperature.
Because higher mass coils require more power to reach temperature.
Battery safety and importance cannot be understated. Thanks to you and others for constantly posting this stuff, it seems every other day or more these charts and info are posted in reply to inquiries, and it is done without complaint. Thanks
With a regulated device resistance has little to no value. You set the power based on your preference which will be dictated by the mass of the coil, not the resistance. You could use a low mass 0.5ohm coil that may only require 10 to 15 watts, or use a high mass 0.5 ohm coil that could require 60 to 80 watts. The coils you have chosen are of high(er) mass given their Clapton type design.
I’d follow @puffon recommendation to start low and work your way up until you find your preference.
I’d follow @puffon recommendation to start low and work your way up until you find your preference.
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So @Don29palms – you continue to disagree but yet offer no explanation. You are entitled to that but why not educate and explain what you disagree with so that others may learn and use that information to their benefit.
When using a regulated mod (chip based), the best battery for the job will have an adequate "amp rating" to put out the desired wattage.
Don't expect a 20 amp battery to be able to put out over 75 watts in a single battery mod. That will stress that battery out and it will have poor performance and could be a safety issue.
WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)
Up to 45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
Up to 60W:
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
Up to 75W:
LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR
Up to 90W:
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR
Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
Batteries are the most important items in your setup. Don't cheap out by using the cheapest batteries that you can find. It pays off in the long run to find authentic name brand batteries with the specifications that your vaping style uses. Learn safe battery practices.
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
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