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Well I'm happy non smoker with e cig but my goal was to wean off the the nicotine and I'm having trouble doing so. I vape 6mg and alternate with 3mg currently but when I vape the 3 mg I just vape twice as much.

I want to go down to just 3 mg in the beginning of March and slow down vaping. I currently vape about 3 squonk bottles in the pulse 80 watt of a mix of 6 mg and 3 mg a day.

I guess what I'm asking is there any tips from anyone who has been successful in cutting down their nicotine?
 

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I take 2 days nic free every 10-14 days.
After the 2 days has past my nic tolerance is pretty much reset.
The first time I went for nic free it seemed like a daunting prospect based on my 42 yrs experience with tobacco and trying to go without cigs but I was surprised me how easy it was.
I dont know if its the same for everyone but there is only one way to find out if it works for you.
I started vaping on 18mg24mg and now use 2mg-4mg. I do have some 6mg but its too strong for me even as a mtl vape.
I dont aim to not use nic at this stage. I like it.
 

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It's weird.

After lowering my nic intake from inititally ~12mg down to 1.5-3mg during my 1st 6 months of vaping, I contemplated going up again in order to reduce my overall vape consumption - I thought higher nic = less vape. Right ? Mhm, not necessarily.

About 2 weeks ago, I tried exactly that, poured nic shots into my mix and got it up to about 6mg/ml. Instead of the expected kick, all I got from it was a slightly woozy feeling in my stomach all day long, without any pleasure increase. Maybe it's not that higher nic% satisfies you with less liquid consumption, but that the effects of higher nic simply discourages you from vaping as much as you would naturally like to.

Right now, I'm using a 0.6mg/ml mix, and I couldn't say that I miss anything :ß
 

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I'm no help to you I'm just getting over a smoking relapse, reducing nic is not my idea of a good time just now although I think it's over, really.

I will say, maybe try smaller reductions like from 6 to 4.5 or 5 or something. If you DIY it should be easy and if you don't, get some same flavor eliquid in 0 nic and mix to the appropriate percentage.

Hmm. I guess I did have something to say. As you get lower, I'd say the usual "cutting in half" deal gets harder, I would think.

You can also try delaying vaping some, I guess. Etc.

Anna
 

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It's weird.

After lowering my nic intake from inititally ~12mg down to 1.5-3mg during my 1st 6 months of vaping, I contemplated going up again in order to reduce my overall vape consumption - I thought higher nic = less vape. Right ? Mhm, not necessarily.

About 2 weeks ago, I tried exactly that, poured nic shots into my mix and got it up to about 6mg/ml. Instead of the expected kick, all I got from it was a slightly woozy feeling in my stomach all day long, without any pleasure increase. Maybe it's not that higher nic% satisfies you with less liquid consumption, but that the effects of higher nic simply discourages you from vaping as much as you would naturally like to.

Right now, I'm using a 0.6mg/ml mix, and I couldn't say that I miss anything :ß
Exactly, Initially I thought I was going to get an increased kick when I went back up a few mg but instead it just makes me feel woozy and lethargic.
 

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People are different. Some seem to have little trouble reducing or even eliminating nic, while others find it quite difficult.

As someone more in the latter camp, the only advice I have is: Take it slow. Reduce no more than 10% at a time. Instead of dropping form 6 to 3, try 5.5. Of course, nobody sells 5.5, but I bet you can find whatever juice(s) you currently buy in 6 as 0 too. So buy some 0 and add 10% of that to your 6. Vape that for a few weeks to see how it goes. You may still vape a bit more, but chances are, it won't be twice as much. If you find yourself not vaping more, than cut another 10% from there.

You may also want to ask yourself why you want to "wean off the the nicotine"? Isn't getting rid of the tar, carbon monoxide, and numerous other nasty things in smoke good enough? There has been more than one story about someone who managed to cut their nicotine all the way down to zero (and maybe even quit vaping entirely) then reverted to smoking not long thereafter because they were no longer scratching their itch.
 

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You might need to pick up a habit for when you don’t want to vape. Here are some options:

Eat sunflower seeds.
Use a cinnamon stick as a cigarette.
Suck on ginger root.
Drink ginger tea with lemon and honey.
Use a fridget spiner.
Use a pen or pencil as a fridget spiner.
Deep breathing.

What works for me when I need a nic hit with lower nicotine, I just stealth vape on purpose. When that doesn’t work, stealth vape from a mod set up with MTL nic salts. (Find Mods have a better power range than pods to get a really strong hit) Also another thing that helps is changing the settings of your device (changing air flow, power/TC) Not only will it change the flavor and warmth, but also at least to me the feel of the nicotine. Currently I vape most of the time on 3 mg. Even if I end up vaping more, I do enjoy it more than higher nicotine.

Or if you want only 1 device you can try the following.



 
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In my view this is a physical process that comes into play. Dropping nic from 18 to 12 is easy as your body still gets enough of the substance to not start agitating and 12 to 6 is the same.

Even a little bit of something usually scratches the itch. HOWEVER....when you get to 3mg from 6mg this is not enough in your system hence the chain vaping. Don't forget that we only get a bit of the nicotine available so at aa certain concentration it becomes almost nothing :)

I suppose what i'm trying to say here is that you can't do this without some effort and will power. In other words you have to treat it a bit like giving up and you know do some of those other things that you might do as distractions.

For me there is increasing evidence that there is very little in the way of unhealthy consequences from nicotine addiction so I for one intend to keep vaping :) Good luck to you:)
 

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I agree with @charlie1465 100%. I easily dropped from 24 to 6 mg/ml over a couple months when I first started. I later dropped to 3 mg ( that was in vogue, using 3 mg with a sub ohm at the time) and relapsed after 4 years cigarette free.

Let me say, it was way harder to quit that second time than it was the first.

Only you know for sure how you will do, and if you can struggle through it and get to zero without faltering. For me, not smoking is still a struggle, and vaping twice as much is not a trade off I’m willing to make.

I know me, and I’ll vape as much nic as I need to feel satisfied.
 

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I have been successful tapering.

I vape with a pretty high frequency probably because I was a heavy smoker. In the beginning, I used different equipment and my nic was 50mg so I will not count that.

Since I started sub-ohm-ing my frequency has not changed very much. The strategy I used was to go down really really slowly. I started at 12 and I am now at between 2 and 3 mg with vaping the same amount. I purchase my e-juice rather than DIY and I would buy a bottle of 12 and a bottle of 3 (I rarely bought 0 to mix because I found it did not have as much flavor) and I'd mix in different ratios so that I could decrease slowly,

In your case, you seem comfortable at 6. So you could purchase a bottle of 6 and a bottle of 3. If you mix those together in equal parts that will be 4.5mg of nic. Try that level instead of dropping from 6 to 3 and see how that works. If it works well with only a small amount of discomfort, stay there a bit and when you feel good at that level then try the 3.

If the 4.5 does not work you can mix in different ratios - there's a calculator or we can help with that and you can go down in smaller increments 6, 5, 4, 3 etc.

I have been at between 2 to 3 for a few years. Eventually, I'd like to go down further but I am no hurry.

Now that I am at a fairly low level I do purchase 0mg juices at times. I did try straight 0 and was not too happy so I know my jump from 2-3mg to 0 will be done in very small increments until I get to 0.

Hope this helps!
 

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Well I'm happy non smoker with e cig but my goal was to wean off the the nicotine and I'm having trouble doing so. I vape 6mg and alternate with 3mg currently but when I vape the 3 mg I just vape twice as much.

I want to go down to just 3 mg in the beginning of March and slow down vaping. I currently vape about 3 squonk bottles in the pulse 80 watt of a mix of 6 mg and 3 mg a day.

I guess what I'm asking is there any tips from anyone who has been successful in cutting down their nicotine?


What worked well for me is to make vaping ONLY about nicotine.

I vape mostly unflavored or only add a hint of flavor to make it palatable. That way I never vape because I want to taste strawberries or custard or whatever. I'm vaping only because I crave nicotine.

I gradually reduced the concentration while taking care not to increase the frequency or the volume. The volume that you vape is as important as the concentration. If you decrease the concentration but increase the volume, you may not be actually reducing your nicotine.

One thing that helps me is to have an emergency backup that is higher concentration. For example, if you decrease the concentration from 6 to 3 mg/ml then have a backup that is 6 mg/ml. Having the backup eliminates any anxiety about reducing the nicotine.

Not vaping indoors or in your car may help reduce the frequency. Eliminating social vaping can help too. That way you only focus on your nicotine dependence and your goals.
 
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I take 2 days nic free every 10-14 days.

Just goes to show how different it can be. I'm heavily addicted and 2 days would be a major ordeal for me... 1/2 a day would be a major ordeal for me. My goal is to eventually quit nicotine but it is a struggle.
 
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Just goes to show how different it can be. I'm heavily addicted and 2 days would be a major ordeal for me... 1/2 a day would be a major ordeal for me. My goal is to eventually quit nicotine but it is a struggle.
I don't vape much during those 2 days. I don't seem to have much interest in nicotine free vaping. I don't go out of the way to not vape, I just don't seem to pick it up.
Two hours without tobacco was a big deal.
 

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last two week, i try to reduce my nic intake, so i diluted nic salt 30mg to 15 mg (should be, base on my simple add 50% PG n VG calculation).
after few day of vaping this, i missing throat hit and so on.
Today i order another bottle of 30 mg and i try to vape on it, just 3-4 puff feeling dizzy and very uncomfortable now ........
 

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last two week, i try to reduce my nic intake, so i diluted nic salt 30mg to 15 mg (should be, base on my simple add 50% PG n VG calculation).
after few day of vaping this, i missing throat hit and so on.
Today i order another bottle of 30 mg and i try to vape on it, just 3-4 puff feeling dizzy and very uncomfortable now ........
In those two weeks you would have reset your tolerance.
I generally change level week to week so as to not create an expectation in myself of what dosage I'm going to receive.
I have stuck at one dosage for about 3-5 weeks though because I moved from mtl to dl and then started using tc almost exclusively. I' still finding my way in these things.
 

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Good luck.
My goal with vaping wasn't to quit smoking.
I just wanted to try it.
Two weeks later, and I threw out my last pack of cigarettes, still half full.
I started with 24mg juice, and nearly 7 years later, I'm still vaping 24mg.
Unless/until I have issues with it, I really don't see the point in weaning off the nicotine.
As a stimulant, it's on about the same level as caffeine health wise, so...
 

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I started at 24mg 4-5 years ago. I let my body tell me when it is time to reduce. After I was down to 12mg I only go down 1mg at a time; currently at 8-9mg. Relatively stress free route to take. Should mention I have no ambition to become nic or vape free.
 

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My goal has never been to be nic-free, just to quit smoking. I know a person that quit by chewing nic gum, and has been cigarette free for eight (?) years, but still chews the gum. I say do whatever it takes to remain smoke-free. For me, it's a pod mod with 50mg juice when the cravings hit. Otherwise it's 6mg in a squonker for vapor and flavor, or chain vaping.
 

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I guess what I'm asking is there any tips from anyone who has been successful in cutting down their nicotine?
Yes, at zero for the last couple of years.
I found that fooling my self by hiding which bottles had nic and which did not. I slowly eliminate mixes with nic so finally I was vaping zero nic e liquid.
Now I can vape as much as I want, no physical additions, US Gov. hassles with nic and save some money.
A good talk:
My Dependency on Vaping. It's not about the nicotine.
 
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