Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

[ShariR]

I have vaped unflavored for 2-3 years now and after I vape up my flavors that I already have I doubt I'll buy flavored again. I never get tired of it, my taste for it never changes like it does with flavored...

Hi stranger! Good to see you. Hope you are well.

I vape unflavored several times a month. I start off thinking I will vape it for a couple of hours to clear out my tastebuds and more times than not I find myself vaping it for a day or two. It is a nice quiet change for me. I only use it in my 510 attys, wonder what it would taste like in my r91.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hi stranger! Good to see you. Hope you are well.

I vape unflavored several times a month. I start off thinking I will vape it for a couple of hours to clear out my tastebuds and more times than not I find myself vaping it for a day or two. It is a nice quiet change for me. I only use it in my 510 attys, wonder what it would taste like in my r91.

Hey, ShariR.

What I found out about vaping unflavored out of my Magma is that it is a GREAT way to tell how good your set-up is, meaning there's so "flavor" to cover up any missteps in the build. It's actually quite nice out of a rebuildable, but best for me out of a 510 for sure.

 

[classwife]

I vape mostly unflavored...and will add a drop or 2 of something flavored here and there.

 

[aikanae1]

I have some 100mg in deep freeze, but I've never opened it and hope I never have to.
So yeah, I actually wasn't kidding.

You probably ordered by now but I thought I'd mention that Nude Nicotine offers a sample of their nic for a small fee + shipping. I think more nic suppliers are doing that since talk in the DIY forum has been comparing nic supplies (i.e. ask if you don't see a sample offerred).

 

[DC2]

You probably ordered by now but I thought I'd mention that Nude Nicotine offers a sample of their nic for a small fee + shipping. I think more nic suppliers are doing that since talk in the DIY forum has been comparing nic supplies (i.e. ask if you don't see a sample offerred).

Thank you, but I already received my sample of 12mg unflavored from Mt. Baker.
I kind of like it, and could definitely vape it if need be.

 

[Digital-Dragon]

Ok, glad I found this thread. Does anybody know of a rda that has the same 'mouth to lung' style draw as an old school '510 bridgeless dripping atomizer'?

I started on the ones with a bridge over three years ago, then for a couple solid years used the bridgeless ones. I got into the rda world a while ago and I love my 454 Big Block! But I have to do lung hits, which are nice and makes huge vapor that is super smooth, but it's not the same as a mouth to lung hit... I also have a 1:1 Kayfun Lite V2 clone that I just hate, not enough airflow and I find it unusable at any watts. I just want to be able to do a nice long draw into my mouth, then 'pop' it into the back of my throat with a really shallow inhale. followed quickly by a slow exhale. But I get horrible results when I try just partially closing the air holes on standard rda's, mouth to lung drags don't seem right at all at any watts on the rda's I'v tried.

So, any suggestions? I've heard that the Magma or the Dripper Pro might be what I'm looking for, but I want to check with you people. Thanks!

PS, I'm also firmly in the flavorless diy camp!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Ok, glad I found this thread. Does anybody know of a rda that has the same 'mouth to lung' style draw as an old school '510 bridgeless dripping atomizer'?

I started on the ones with a bridge over three years ago, then for a couple solid years used the bridgeless ones. I got into the rda world a while ago and I love my 545 Big Block! But I have to do lung hits, which are nice and makes huge vapor that is super smooth, but it's not the same as a mouth to lung hit... I also have a 1:1 Kayfun Lite V2 clone that I just hate, not enough airflow and I find it unusable at any watts. I just want to be able to do a nice long draw into my mouth, then 'pop' it into the back of my throat with a really shallow inhale. followed quickly by a slow exhale. But I get horrible results when I try just partially closing the air holes on standard rda's, mouth to lung drags don't seem right at all at any watts on the rda's I'v tried.

So, any suggestions? I've heard that the Magma or the Dripper Pro might be what I'm looking for, but I want to check with you people. Thanks!

PS, I'm also firmly in the flavorless diy camp!

Hey.

Maybe a Fatty V2 would be right for you?

 

[Digital-Dragon]

Hey.

Maybe a Fatty V2 would be right for you?

Hmm, just watched the pbusardo video on it, might work for me but the Dripper Pro seems like it might be better for me. Plus it'd look great on my Provari, with that setup for Mouth to Lung, and my Stingray X with the 454 Big Block on it for Strait to Lung I'd be set.

Really I just wish there was something like the hh.357 or a normal Cisco Spec atty that could be be easily and reliably rebuilt. Anybody out there used a rda that hits just like a Cisco Spec Dripping atty?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hmm, just watched the pbusardo video on it, might work for me but the Dripper Pro seems like it might be better for me. Plus it'd look great on my Provari, with that setup for Mouth to Lung, and my Stingray X with the 545 Big Block on it for Strait to Lung I'd be set.

Really I just wish there was something like the hh.357 or a normal Cisco Spec atty that could be be easily and reliably rebuilt. Anybody out there used a rda that hits just like a Cisco Spec Dripping atty?

I had a eBaron Dripper Pro. It is pretty close to what you are looking for too.

 

[Digital-Dragon]

I had a eBaron Dripper Pro. It is pretty close to what you are looking for too.

Ok cool. I've heard from a couple people now that I should try a Dripper Pro. I think I'll have to pick one up, though I do wonder why there aren't many new rda's that are designed for Mouth to Lung, and the Dripper Pro is ancient considering how quickly the rda world is moving.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Been playing again with tanks and RDA's, and mang... I just keep coming back to the atomizers, specifically the darn HH357. It does seem expensive, until I consider how much juice I can rip through with an RDA in a day. More vapor but less flavor, and I have to put a couple ml in at a time, and don't get many more hits than 4 or 5 drops in an HH. By the end of the day, I've gone through 8ml vs. 3, and at a cost of about 0.40/ml, the HH pays for itself in two weeks on juice saved.

The more things change....

 

[Mr.Mann]

Ok cool. I've heard from a couple people now that I should try a Dripper Pro. I think I'll have to pick one up, though I do wonder why there aren't many new rda's that are designed for Mouth to Lung, and the Dripper Pro is ancient considering how quickly the rda world is moving.

It's simple: they don't put out copious amounts of vapor! That is what the ecig market is now mostly predicated on, though there is still a fanbase for the things you are talking about.

 

[Digital-Dragon]

It's simple: they don't put out copious amounts of vapor! That is what the ecig market is now mostly predicated on, though there is still a fanbase for the things you are talking about.

Yeah, totally true that most everybody wants more vapor. I stayed away from rebuildables for years, and was totally fine with my bridgeless dripping atties, but would watch people like RIP Trippers on youtube and envy the giant clouds. So a while ago when I got my 454 Big Block, got a build in it, and hit it, it was immediately obvious that only a full lung inhale would do, and MtL would not work at all. Which was totally disconcerting for me, I had never realized that all these youtubers like RIP were lung hitting it, I thought that MtL was how ecigs were supposed to be used, and that lung hitters were just weirdos. So now I'm blowing giant clouds just like RIP, but I'm not getting that throat hit I would get from the little, good old drippers, and strangely enough, I'm starting to really miss them even though they don't put out those massive clouds. I'm also thinking that when I go to put a build in the Dripper Pro (if that's what I get) I should try a coil smaller than the micro coils I've been making, maybe a nano or super nano, whatever is the best copy of the coil in the old school dripping atties.

Here's the qualities I think a rebuildable dripper thats meant for Mouth to Lung should have: 1) very small chamber 2) moderately tight draw 3) airflow from beneath coil.

What else am I missing?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yeah, totally true that most everybody wants more vapor. I stayed away from rebuildables for years, and was totally fine with my bridgeless dripping atties, but would watch people like RIP Trippers on youtube and envy the giant clouds. So a while ago when I got my 545 Big Block, got a build in it, and hit it, it was immediately obvious that only a full lung inhale would do, and MtL would not work at all. Which was totally disconcerting for me, I had never realized that all these youtubers like RIP were lung hitting it, I thought that MtL was how ecigs were supposed to be used, and that lung hitters were just weirdos. So now I'm blowing giant clouds just like RIP, but I'm not getting that throat hit I would get from the little, good old drippers, and strangely enough, I'm starting to really miss them even though they don't put out those massive clouds. I'm also thinking that when I go to put a build in the Dripper Pro (if that's what I get) I should try a coil smaller than the micro coils I've been making, maybe a nano or super nano, whatever is the best copy of the coil in the old school dripping atties.

Here's the qualities I think a rebuildable dripper thats meant for Mouth to Lung should have: 1) very small chamber 2) moderately tight draw 3) airflow from beneath coil.

What else am I missing?

You have it right, but I don't think it necessarily needs to have a small chamber. I think the whole chamber business is overblown (so to speak),

Yes though, I still love the authentic TH of a regular atty above all other hits. Flavor has to go to RDAs, but I take the feeling of a hit to flavored air any day. When I close my eyes I still like to feel it. Setting flavor aside, I hate that with RDAs is almost like you have to see it to believe you actually hit it! That straight-to-lung hit does little more than warm the throat on the way down --it's basically the anti-TH.

Okay, back to vaping on my Magma. LOL. RDAs at night and regular atties until night fall.

 

[Digital-Dragon]

You have it right, but I don't think it necessarily needs to have a small chamber. I think the whole chamber business is overblown (so to speak),

Yes though, I still love the authentic TH of a regular atty above all other hits. Flavor has to go to RDAs, but I take the feeling of a hit to flavored air any day. When I close my eyes I still like to feel it. Setting flavor aside, I hate that with RDAs is almost like you have to see it to believe you actually hit it! That straight-to-lung hit does little more than warm the throat on the way down --it's basically the anti-TH.

Okay, back to vaping on my Magma. LOL. RDAs at night and regular atties until night fall.

Yeah, for me I don't feel normal lung hits from RDAs on the way down at all, and it's the volume of vapor on the exhale that gives me some satisfaction, along with the pure taste of my VG, and the visual vapor is nice also... But I just miss that thump to the back of the throat (that's what she said) on the inhale from the regular old atties... Anyhoo, I'm also considering an Atomic or an Igo W now for MtL.

You lung hit your Magma? or MtL?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yeah, for me I don't feel normal lung hits from RDAs on the way down at all, and it's the volume of vapor on the exhale that gives me some satisfaction, along with the pure taste of my VG, and the visual vapor is nice also... But I just miss that thump to the back of the throat (that's what she said) on the inhale from the regular old atties... Anyhoo, I'm also considering an Atomic or an Igo W now for MtL.

You lung hit your Magma? or MtL?

Straight-to-lung mostly, though I found a subtle in-between that works also: a top-of-the-throat-to-lung inhale. It may not make much sense when I write it, but if you take a hit to the throat, stopping short of gong all the way down, and then take air in, it is somewhat close but still not the better than a regular MtL inhale on a regular atty, but better than a StL for some feeling. Too much of it though can be taxing.

 

[billherbst]

You have it right, but I don't think it necessarily needs to have a small chamber. I think the whole chamber business is overblown (so to speak),

Yes, the chamber size distinction is not as meaningful to me as to many others.

Yes though, I still love the authentic TH of a regular atty above all other hits. Flavor has to go to RDAs, but I take the feeling of a hit to flavored air any day. When I close my eyes I still like to feel it. Setting flavor aside, I hate that with RDAs is almost like you have to see it to believe you actually hit it! That straight-to-lung hit does little more than warm the throat on the way down --it's basically the anti-TH.

Yowsa. Recently I switched certain of my bottom-feeders from Cyclone-clones (that almost reads like a stammer) and A6 RDAs to Vapage hybrid slant-coil 510 atties (and back). In doing that brief experiment, I re-confirmed that the devices offer two very different vaping experiences. Old-school atties have a tighter draw, with the emphatic throat hit you mentioned, while RDAs (at least mine) are optimized for an airy draw and greater vapor volume. The flavor is different, too, but not in a simple more or less way (at least not for me). With my particular devices, flavor from 510 atties is more focused and substantial but a bit subdued, whereas RDA flavor is expansive but lighter, with a greater aura but less impact. I don't have a good metaphor for that, but pound cake versus angel food cake with icing is in the right direction. Pound cake is plainer but dense; iced angel food is lighter and sweeter.

Although I've used RDAs on all 13 of my bottom-feeders for more than a year, I wouldn't say that RDAs are necessarily better than 510s as an overall experience, despite the general attitude in the community that newer vaping hardware is superior to the old stuff. Certainly the days of "blue foam" were pretty lousy, but basic 510 atties, whether dripped or bottom-fed, remain a viable standard. After all, that's the whole point of this thread.

 

[DC2]

There are days when I wonder if it was wise to have stocked up on so many 510 atomizers a few years ago...
The discussions you guys just had above make me very happy that I did.


I love my 510 atomizers and have never felt any need to try anything else.
But I can't help but wonder sometimes what I'm missing out on.

Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything that I care about.

 

[y cherry y]

I agree with Bill. I also think the hard hit that 510's demand gives me a more concentrated blast of vapor to all parts if my mouth -- roof, tongue, soft palate, throat. With some juices, I get different flavor components in different spots.

 

[ShariR]

What an interesting conversation. I had forsaken my 510 attys for a few months and vaped only with my Russian 91%. I had an urge to go back to my 510 attys and I am so glad I did. It is a perfect way for me to reconnect with my juices and savor the vaping experience rather than blowing though tens of ml of juice for convenience. Very different taste experience too. So satisfying and relaxing.