relatively new to vaping/question about liquids

[loksins]

hey guys, new to this forum here.
so after experimenting with pen vaporizers for a few months i decided to go all out and buy a proper one, i got a eleaf istick tc100w with the uwell crown 2 tank.
first impressions were really good until i switched liquids, then it started to feel burnt with no flavour, and really hurting my throat.
i bought more coils which are 60-100w and it seemed to help somewhat.
but my real question is with the liquid. do some types of liquids burn out coils faster than others?
i have 2 liquids from matonay premium gold, 1 is blueberry and other is heisenberg. now whats really confusing me is that the heisenberg on a fresh coil is really wonderful, good flavour and good on the throat but the blueberry one pretty much just ruins the coil and no matter what i do i cant get it back to the level where the heisenberg was at.
i used the heisenberg liquid only for a few days and it was great, then the blueberry one and within 10 minutes of use it started hurting like hell.
could it just be a bad batch on the blueberry one? i prime the coils and all that.
also i read online that the uwell crown 2 were apparently known to be kinda ....ty but i find it very strange that 1 flavour works and the other one ruins the coil.

sorry for wall of text but any help would be appreciated. thanks!

 

[gandymarsh]

Welcome to ECF!

It would help to know;
What resistance are your coils?
What wattage you are using?
What nicotine level?
What ratio of VG/PG is your juice?

 

[loksins]

thanks, 0.25 ohms (says recommended wattage level 60-100w) and im using 60-65.
6mg nicotine, and it really doesnt say the vg/pg anywhere on the bottle. all it says it's "high in vg content".

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Are the liquids dark or colored or sweet?
The above tend to clog wicking material, caramelize & burn on the coils rapidly.

 

[loksins]

they're clear, blueberry smells sweet and the heisenberg one is like fruity/minty

 

[loksins]

the thing that confuses me the most though is that the liquid seems to ruin the coil from just a few drags. i smelled the blueberry and it has lost some of its smell, or it has changed a bit not in a good way. could it just be a bad batch?

 

[Mike .. w]

the thing that confuses me the most though is that the liquid seems to ruin the coil from just a few drags. i smelled the blueberry and it has lost some of its smell, or it has changed a bit not in a good way. could it just be a bad batch?

I'm pretty new to vaping , but I owned a crown 2 , when I say owned I mean it as I threw the junker into the garbage after buying my smok cloud beast and baby beast . The crown 2 in my opinion is the problem. I like sweet juices , and switch flavors often , literally 4 or 5 times a day . The crown 2 never performed well for me . The coils seem to have some serious issues. Even the newest replacement ones after all the first batch issues. My advice is get a different tank all together. Of course I've not been vaping long but if you Google crown 2 reviews you will find many many complaints. I only learned of this after purchasing one , I was assured by the lady at the shop it was a great tank lol. Maybe it is for some I dunno . For me it was horrible , always tasted burned , dry hits for days and days . JuSt so frustrating. I am a noob but I know what I experienced with the crown 2 and after switching to the baby beast , and sometimes the beast if I'm feeling crazy I've had zero problems like this if it's primed correctly. Not so with the crown 2 , it nearly drove me away from vaping honestly . I figured if this is a good tank what's a bad one like? lol. Dunno if this will help but just throwing my 2 cents out there.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

hey guys, new to this forum here.
so after experimenting with pen vaporizers for a few months i decided to go all out and buy a proper one, i got a eleaf istick tc100w with the uwell crown 2 tank.
first impressions were really good until i switched liquids, then it started to feel burnt with no flavour, and really hurting my throat.
i bought more coils which are 60-100w and it seemed to help somewhat.
but my real question is with the liquid. do some types of liquids burn out coils faster than others?
i have 2 liquids from matonay premium gold, 1 is blueberry and other is heisenberg. now whats really confusing me is that the heisenberg on a fresh coil is really wonderful, good flavour and good on the throat but the blueberry one pretty much just ruins the coil and no matter what i do i cant get it back to the level where the heisenberg was at.
i used the heisenberg liquid only for a few days and it was great, then the blueberry one and within 10 minutes of use it started hurting like hell.
could it just be a bad batch on the blueberry one? i prime the coils and all that.
also i read online that the uwell crown 2 were apparently known to be kinda ....ty but i find it very strange that 1 flavour works and the other one ruins the coil.

sorry for wall of text but any help would be appreciated. thanks!

Patient: "Doc, it hurts when I do this, what should I do?"
Doc: "Don't do that".
Seriously, you might try to contact the maker of the blueberry juice, and relate your experience to them. Since the juice is clear, and there are no tobacco extracts, I have to figure it's the sweetener they are using?

In any case, welcome to ECF! Glad to have you aboard and I hope you figure your problem.

 

[mcclintock]

Sounds like the blueberry is too strongly flavored. It takes 10 minutes to hit full flavor or build up and then becomes too intense. A flavor way too strong just tastes bad not like too much of the flavor. And a lot of flavors are limited by producing too much throat hit, not just the obvious ones.

 

[loksins]

I'm pretty new to vaping , but I owned a crown 2 , when I say owned I mean it as I threw the junker into the garbage after buying my smok cloud beast and baby beast . The crown 2 in my opinion is the problem. I like sweet juices , and switch flavors often , literally 4 or 5 times a day . The crown 2 never performed well for me . The coils seem to have some serious issues. Even the newest replacement ones after all the first batch issues. My advice is get a different tank all together. Of course I've not been vaping long but if you Google crown 2 reviews you will find many many complaints. I only learned of this after purchasing one , I was assured by the lady at the shop it was a great tank lol. Maybe it is for some I dunno . For me it was horrible , always tasted burned , dry hits for days and days . JuSt so frustrating. I am a noob but I know what I experienced with the crown 2 and after switching to the baby beast , and sometimes the beast if I'm feeling crazy I've had zero problems like this if it's primed correctly. Not so with the crown 2 , it nearly drove me away from vaping honestly . I figured if this is a good tank what's a bad one like? lol. Dunno if this will help but just throwing my 2 cents out there.

yeah i was worried that it was just the crown 2 which is just terrible, and i agree it made me feel sick of vaping when it produced those bad drags. thanks for the advice btw i think i might just go out and try one of those cloud beasts.. and same thing with me the guy at the shop said the crown 2 was a great tank even after i came back and complained it was tasting really bad. also i think im just throwing the blueberry out, makes me feel sick thinking about that one lol.

 

[Hitmetwice]

I think most of the points have been covered here except maybe this one... different flavours/juices will have their own power sweetspots. Just because the original juice you were using was great at 60 watts doesn't mean the blueberry will be.
It's sweetspot may be at a much lower wattage.

If you have tried the blueberry with a new, well primed coil and started at a very low wattage level working the power up slowly over time, backing the power back down after noticing the flavour starting to get funky then the liquid itself must be the problem imo.

Maybe try diluting the juice with some plain PG/VG to bring the level of flavouring in the liquid down. At least you might still be able to vape it and not waste it. Cheers.

 

[loksins]

I think most of the points have been covered here except maybe this one... different flavours/juices will have their own power sweetspots. Just because the original juice you were using was great at 60 watts doesn't mean the blueberry will be.
It's sweetspot may be at a much lower wattage.

If you have tried the blueberry with a new, well primed coil and started at a very low wattage level working the power up slowly over time, backing the power back down after noticing the flavour starting to get funky then the liquid itself must be the problem imo.

Maybe try diluting the juice with some plain PG/VG to bring the level of flavouring in the liquid down. At least you might still be able to vape it and not waste it. Cheers.

what about the recommended wattage level that's printed on the coil itself? says 60-100w and i figured i'd wear it out or something if i went below or above that range.

 

[Smoke_too_much]

I'd agree wholeheartedly with Rayonati on different juices needing different power settings. I've had identical mods, tanks, coils, but different juices and had one set at around 60 w and the other at 30 w's, the only difference being the juice. It's up to what you think tastes good.

I'm going to go out on a bit of a limb here and suggest it may not be the Crown 2 tank that is the problem. I don't have any 2's but I do have five 1's and the only reason I didn't buy any 2's was because they went to a different coil and I didn't want to be buying another coil type, had too many as it was. I then switched to the RBA anyway which makes a world of difference to the 1 and I suspect the same would hold true for the 2. You may want to consider that. I also note that you say your Crown 2 works well on the 1st juice, that would show me there is nothing wrong with the tank. Individual coils are another matter but trying new coils will normally eliminate that question.

The blueberry juice could be the problem as I've noticed that 3 or 4 different brands of blueberry leave a lot to be desired. In fact I washed one out of a tank last night because it tasted terrible, strong throat/lung hit, almost a nicotine peppery taste and yet it was only 6mg and a max VG and had been steeped way too long. I think the flavor blueberry (which I normally like a lot) can be a problem to get a good tasting one, try something else.

If the bad taste you describe has a bit of a burnt taste to it then the problem may be something entirely different. Can you describe the bad taste?

PS: If you are going to throw away your Crown 2 like Mike above, do feel free to throw it my direction as I'd be happy to have it.

 

[Izan]

what about the recommended wattage level that's printed on the coil itself? says 60-100w and i figured i'd wear it out or something if i went below or above that range.

Personally... I ignore the propaganda from the manufacturer.
Power: Start low..work up slowly.

Cheers
I

 

[Hitmetwice]

Personally... I ignore the propaganda from the manufacturer.
Power: Start low..work up slowly.

Cheers
I

Hahaha, can I like this comment twice?
It matters not one bit what is etched on the coil.
The liquid itself will have limits as to how much
power can be applied and still taste decent.

Every flavour out there will simply not vape at the same settings. We each need to find the sweetspot for us with every new liquid/coil/tank combination we try. Cheers.

 

[mcclintock]

With any of these higher power type coils a certain airflow is assumed. If you don't want that much you can run a little low but it kind of gets slow acting and much lower it more or less stops working.

 

[loksins]

thanks for the replies guys, i'll definitely start low wattage from now on. i just bought a smok tfv8 baby beast, maybe il figure the crown 2 out with different wattage levels but i figured its nice to have 2 of them if i want to switch without the hassle of changing liquids.

 

[NealBJr]

There are several potential problems.

First, look at the ratio of PG and VG. VG is thicker, and has a consistency more like corn oil. PG has a consistency of water. Because of that, they wick to the heating element differently. A juice with a high VG base will need looser packed coils to wick efficiently. Some coils pack their cotton fairly tight to avoid leakage. I vape mostly higher VG juices, so I would have to take a pin and poke holes in some of the premade coils. YOu also may want to wait between drags to let the juice set in.

Second, it could be the flavoring of the juice. Some juice companies use flavoring that leaves a residue. I'd be hard pressed to say that it's this, since you said it is ruined after about 10 minutes. If you have one of your bad coils that you're no longer using (this will ruin the coil), take it apart and see where the problem is. First take out the bottom gold pin, then take off the rubber grommet below that. Then take tweezers and pull the coil out down through the bottom. Then take the tweezers and pull the cotton out, trying not to rip the cotton apart as you do it. Look at the wire that came out.. Some of it will probably be black (which is normal), but if it has a lot of hard residue that flakes off, then that is buildup due to juice. If the cotton is black, that means you burned the cotton.. you can verify this by giving it a light rinse with water to see if the dark stains are just darkened juice or burned cotton.

And lastly, there usually is a break in period for the crown 2 coils. Like others have said before, start off low.. at least for the first few tanks. some people recommend vaping the coils lower than expected for the first two tanks, then raising it a bit more after that, and increase slowly after that.

I hope you get it figured out. and welcome to the forums!!!

 

[medleypat]

It has been my experience that some of the watts manufacturers put on their coils are a little high. Just do what others have said and start low and work your way up. Also might just be a bad batch of juice. Another point I would like to make is don't always listen to one or two people on here some people just don't want to spend the time trying to figure out why something is not working right just toss it and buy something else. You made the smart move and came here and asked.

 

[BrotherBob]

hey guys, new to this forum here.
so after experimenting with pen vaporizers for a few months i decided to go all out and buy a proper one, i got a eleaf istick tc100w with the uwell crown 2 tank.
first impressions were really good until i switched liquids, then it started to feel burnt with no flavour, and really hurting my throat.
i bought more coils which are 60-100w and it seemed to help somewhat.
but my real question is with the liquid. do some types of liquids burn out coils faster than others?
i have 2 liquids from matonay premium gold, 1 is blueberry and other is heisenberg. now whats really confusing me is that the heisenberg on a fresh coil is really wonderful, good flavour and good on the throat but the blueberry one pretty much just ruins the coil and no matter what i do i cant get it back to the level where the heisenberg was at.
i used the heisenberg liquid only for a few days and it was great, then the blueberry one and within 10 minutes of use it started hurting like hell.
could it just be a bad batch on the blueberry one? i prime the coils and all that.
also i read online that the uwell crown 2 were apparently known to be kinda ....ty but i find it very strange that 1 flavour works and the other one ruins the coil.
sorry for wall of text but any help would be appreciated. thanks!

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