Releaux Evolv DNA vs. Joyetech Chips

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Hi fleet
you gonna love it

There are always gonna be HATERS, but thats their loss

Everyone is calling it a fix .because the the fire button just brushes against the curve on the screen ribbon cable .

It would probably be fine if left alone .

I used to work in a mobile phone repair shop and repair phones as my job, they use the same type of flat flex ribbon cable on lots of parts, when fitting screens and other parts in phones the ribbons are flat when new. many times they needed to be folded and creased to fit the part into its place so they are pretty tough little things.

The FIX if you even want to call it THAT aint nothing to worry about as J says if ya wanna check, in the battery bay you will see 6 small screws the lower 4 are what holds the front face plate on, just remove them and look to see if the screen cable is touching bottom edge of the fire button,if not then you dont need to do the so called FIX .if it is then its up to you if you want do the FIX or not ,all it involves is using a tooth pic to gently lift that end of the screen up from the sticky pad that holds it down ,you only need to raise it a couple of mm then with the same tooth pic tuck the screen ribbon towards the screen to create a S shape in the excess ribbon cable hold it with the tooth pic and gently press the screen back down on its sticky pad ,the cable does not actually go under the screen, just under itself, to create that soft S shaped curve ,lifting that end of the screen just makes it easier to tuck it back on its self ,without the need to try and squeeze it in and damage anything. .
its a real easy FIX if you even want to call it a FIX, its more just piece of mind knowing that your fire button is not touching the ribbon anymore.

I only did mine because i took the front cover off to see what all the fuss was about .

Its up to each individual person if they want to do anything with it or not .



HATERS ....HATE ALL YA LIKE...ITS YOUR LOSS
 
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From what I hear the dna model is fine, but the RX200 has an issue where the throw on the firing switch rubs against the hot wire behind it. It has caused some shorting issues. Supposedly, one can open it u[p and tie the wire back out of the way pretty easily.
You've got that backwards, unless the RX version has the same issue.

Hi fleet
you gonna love it

There are always gonna be HATERS, but thats their loss

Everyone is calling it a fix .because the the fire button just brushes against the curve on the screen ribbon cable .

It would probably be fine if left alone .

I used to work in a mobile phone repair shop and repair phones as my job, they use the same type of flat flex ribbon cable on lots of parts, when fitting screens and other parts in phones the ribbons are flat when new. many times they needed to be folded and creased to fit the part into its place so they are pretty tough little things.

The FIX if you even want to call it THAT aint nothing to worry about as J says if ya wanna check, in the battery bay you will see 6 small screws the lower 4 are what holds the front face plate on, just remove them and look to see if the screen cable is touching bottom edge of the fire button,if not then you dont need to do the so called FIX .if it is then its up to you if you want do the FIX or not ,all it involves is using a tooth pic to gently lift that end of the screen up from the sticky pad that holds it down ,you only need to raise it a couple of mm then with the same tooth pic tuck the screen ribbon towards the screen to create a S shape in the excess ribbon cable hold it with the tooth pic and gently press the screen back down on its sticky pad ,the cable does not actually go under the screen, just under itself, to create that soft S shaped curve ,lifting that end of the screen just makes it easier to tuck it back on its self ,without the need to try and squeeze it in and damage anything. .
its a real easy FIX if you even want to call it a FIX, its more just piece of mind knowing that your fire button is not touching the ribbon anymore.

I only did mine because i took the front cover off to see what all the fuss was about .

Its up to each individual person if they want to do anything with it or not .



HATERS ....HATE ALL YA LIKE...ITS YOUR LOSS
I'm going to assume that this is directed towards me.

Don't confuse being critical with being a hater. What you describe is what I would call a fix, and that fix voids your warranty.
 

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So I'm looking into purchasing a Releaux. I see there are two different types. One is about $150 and contains the DNA chip and the other is about $50 and contains a Joyetech chip. I understand that the DNA is one of the best chips, but is it worth the extra $100 over the Joyetech? I'm not finding much info comparing the two.
At the moment I'm using a Sigelei 150w and Zephyr Buddha RDA with most of my builds coming out anywhere between 0.15-0.2 Ohms using VTC4 batteries.

Any help on this matter would be appreciated. Thanks!
Is memory serves just the Evolve board costs $80. That is a big reason for the cost difference.

I am using the Joyetech eVic and it works great do either one should work great.
 
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You've got that backwards, unless the RX version has the same issue.


I'm going to assume that this is directed towards me.

Don't confuse being critical with being a hater. What you describe is what I would call a fix, and that fix voids your warranty.
So don't fix it and if it fails you have a 1 year warranty, which other company offers a year?
You don't even have to take the chip out just mail the mod they'll replace it for free.
 
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So don't fix it and if it fails you have a 1 year warranty, which other company offers a year?
You don't even have to take the chip out just mail the mod they'll replace it for free.
That's true, and Evolve gets the nod for that, but in this case it would be the fault of the mod for the chip failing. In my opinion, its ridiculous that a mod has to be sent off to be fixed due to its faulty design.

Hexohm's come with a lifetime warranty, correct? Completely different devices, I know, but you asked.
 
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I'm going to assume that this is directed towards me.

Don't confuse being critical with being a hater. What you describe is what I would call a fix, and that fix voids your warranty.

I am not pointing any fingers you assume what you want

I am just stating a FACT there will always be HATERS

So if ..YOU.. think that HAT fits..YOU..then wear it

As far as the warranty then thats up to the individual if they want to void it or not .

we all know if you tinker with stuff and break it then its your own fault.

I dont know what ya problem is and i dont realy care.
 
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Download the latest firmware and settings file from:
Reuleaux DNA200 Setting File with Latest Evolv Firmware Launching - Wismec Electronics Co.,Ltd

Install Escribe
Take the mod and plug it in to the PC, wait for everything to download...

(Do this part after not before plugging in the Mod)
click on file > open > <wherever your Wismec downloaded settings file is>

Go to the Mod tab, click on watt-hour calculator, it will ask if you know the total voltage say yes.
Battery cell Capacity type in 2100, nominal voltage should be 11.1

Next you can do a full battery analysis overnight or I could save you 24 hours and give you a discharge profile from another VTC4 user, see attachment.

After you download the csv file go in escribe: Load CSV > <wherever you put the CSV file you downloaded>

Now your mod understands your batteries alot better and the meter makes more sense.
The current firmware I have is the same firmware on the Wismec site.

At this point click on File > Save > and save it wherever you want (this is your settings file backup)

After this you pretty much can mess around with themes, profiles, etc...
Make sure you have a good backup first with a battery discharge profile that matches your batteries.

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As for Illumn, that's really weird I've never had to contact them but check your e-mail maybe the spam filter? I've never had problems with them, LIKE EVER!

PS: IMPORTANT! Rename the file attached from .txt to .csv the site doesn't let me upload csv files.

You are the man! I'll try this out. I mistakenly said that I'm using VTC4's at the moment, but I'm actually using VTC3's. Wasn't thinking when I said that. I'm at 0.22Ohm's so I should be fine though.
In good news my Illumn order finally shipped today. Still haven't received an email explaining why it hasn't updated in 5 days though.. whatever.
I really appreciate all your help. Seriously. I would have never known about battery profiles if you didn't tell me. That makes this mod THAT much better.
and to everyone else... chill with the drama lol
 

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You are the man! I'll try this out. I mistakenly said that I'm using VTC4's at the moment, but I'm actually using VTC3's. Wasn't thinking when I said that. I'm at 0.22Ohm's so I should be fine though.
In good news my Illumn order finally shipped today. Still haven't received an email explaining why it hasn't updated in 5 days though.. whatever.
I really appreciate all your help. Seriously. I would have never known about battery profiles if you didn't tell me. That makes this mod THAT much better.
and to everyone else... chill with the drama lol
I tried to find a VTC3 profile but no one has posted one, not worth doing a full battery analysis if you've got VTC4s on the way.

Just use the mod with the vtc4 profile and try not to drain below 25% you'll be fine. Not sure ehy Illumn took so long but at least you got your batteries for a great price.
 

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I tried to find a VTC3 profile but no one has posted one, not worth doing a full battery analysis if you've got VTC4s on the way.

Just use the mod with the vtc4 profile and try not to drain below 25% you'll be fine. Not sure ehy Illumn took so long but at least you got your batteries for a great price.

Yep at least I didn't have to stare at this thing until my VTC4's came in! So you think I should use that profile with my VTC3's? and where are you looking for these? The DNA forums?
 

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DNA battery profiles you can get from either Facebook or the Evolv forums. They're all user contributions, you can make your own profiles but you need to do a full battery analysis usually overnight takes a while to drain the 3 batteries from full charge. They're similar enough to where you shouldn't have much of a problem for a day or two, don't go draining the batteries all the way down though, 1600MaH vs 2100MaH, so as long as you don't go below 25% (giving you a safety margin) you'll be fine.
 

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DNA battery profiles you can get from either Facebook or the Evolv forums. They're all user contributions, you can make your own profiles but you need to do a full battery analysis usually overnight takes a while to drain the 3 batteries from full charge. They're similar enough to where you shouldn't have much of a problem for a day or two, don't go draining the batteries all the way down though, 1600MaH vs 2100MaH, so as long as you don't go below 25% (giving you a safety margin) you'll be fine.

How do I load this CSV file? I'm not seeing anywhere to browse and select it.
 

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Wow how did I miss that! You think I should reload this CSV after I get the VTC4's so it can learn those batteries?
No, because the discharge graph you're loading is for VTC4s not VTC3s. What you do want to be careful with is not to go too far below 25%, as that discharge graph is meant for 2100MaH batteries (VTC4) not 1600Mah (VTC3).
 

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No, because the discharge graph you're loading is for VTC4s not VTC3s. What you do want to be careful with is not to go too far below 25%, as that discharge graph is meant for 2100MaH batteries (VTC4) not 1600Mah (VTC3).

No worries I never let my batteries get that low. Thanks again man.
 
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dont get the rx200, someone dropped theirs and it stopped working..
dont get the dna 200, still too much bugs, but knowing your mod might die anytime is not a mod i want to own, evolv does have good customer service/ no questions asked / send your mod in, which is good

sx mini q or ml class =)

Too late. Already got the Reuleaux DNA 200. Already love it.
 

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yeah you can't even build a dual 18650 mechanical box mod for less than it costs to have a dual battery mechanical box mod shipped to your house, really... & if you can, it'd take some hunting skills for the box, the 510 connection, battery-sled, wiring kit and then if ya want a mosfet, the button... NOPE! I've done a fair-bit of hunting and I can't figure-out a way to build one for less than 35-40 bucks or more, and I can grab a nice mech box mod at fasttech for 25 bucks. That country has us BEAT! haha. Although... If you've already got a box/container, and you've got a mod or two you dislike, well then.... ya might pull it off! Course then, it may-not wind-up as pretty as a pre-machined box.
 
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