REO vs KFL+

[SoftSell]

If you're into rebuildables, get the grand lp and a lp atomizer of your liking (lp = low profile = will accept regular sized rbas/rdas). Also recommend a kit to rebuild your reo if it comes down to it, and spare bottles/o rings.
If your one and only reo goes down, you will have a miserable few weeks without, weeks I never intend to learn about.
I chose the Rm4 and it's to my liking, but the rm2 is going to be in the mail shortly, because from what I hear, it's the cats pajamas.

 

[Mark Howard]

I now have 5 Reos and am selling off all but one of my other setups, including the KFL+. I just don't use them, Reo always in hand (and pockets). That said, the RM2 gets a lot of love, but I think that's because it's the one thats been around for a while and everyone has an afection for. IMO the Cyclone or RM4 are better attys, for the way I like to vape. I do lung inhales with coils at .4-.6 ohms. No cloud chasing, but I don't like to fell like I'm sucking my brains out to get a little hit, and I don't find the flavor of the RM2 any better, no matter how many times I pull mine out and try to prove to myself otherwise. But if you like the ProTank draw, the RM2 may be your thing.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I now have 5 Reos and am selling off all but one of my other setups, including the KFL+. I just don't use them, Reo always in hand (and pockets). That said, the RM2 gets a lot of love, but I think that's because it's the one thats been around for a while and everyone has an afection for. IMO the Cyclone or RM4 are better attys, for the way I like to vape. I do lung inhales with coils at .4-.6 ohms. No cloud chasing, but I don't like to fell like I'm sucking my brains out to get a little hit, and I don't find the flavor of the RM2 any better, no matter how many times I pull mine out and try to prove to myself otherwise. But if you like the ProTank draw, the RM2 may be your thing.

Eh, I tend to like the draw on the KFL+ with the air screws out a good bit for a more airy draw. I don't mind the PT draw too much but like it more airy than that. I'm kinda like you I think - I'd rather have to suck less. not really a cloud chaser but I do really enjoy the increased vapor on the KFL over the PT, mostly though I prefer the ease of getting a lot of vapor over the amount so I may look at the RM4 then

 

[UncleChimney]

The KFL+ is a great tank, and my only serious gripe with it is that you couldn't take it apart with juice in it to fix the wick or recoil it. That really irritated me especially when you would build it and the wick wasn't great, it was a pain to take apart and redo the wick. No such problems with the REO. You can just take the cap off and rebuild your coil or rewick it.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I'm definitely getting a reo tomorrow. After completely rebuilding my kayfun for more dry hits i'm just ready for a REO. Seems so much easier to keep it from getting dry hits x.x and easier in general. Looks freaking awesome all around.

Still confused on the atomizer though. I think I'd like to get the reomizer 2 since it's what I'm able to find building tutorials on etc as opposed to the reomizer 4. But there is no LP Reomizer 2 on the website. only low profile reomizer, or reomizer 2. what do you guys mean when you say reomizer 2 LP? is it tucked away on the site somewhere?

my plan: order a REO Grand, atty, a couple of batteries orobably from light hound and one of the chargers in the $20 range. Also will pick up a repair kit maybe some o-rings. expensive purchase but seems worth it x.x

 

[Train2]

That's the one - if you're getting an LP REO, you get the LP Reomizer.
It doesn't say RM2, but that's it...
There's no more plain "Reomizers" - just the 2, 3, 4 and 5...
I mean, there WAS an original Reomizer, but it's not on the site - that's a 2.

I'm definitely getting a reo tomorrow. After completely rebuilding my kayfun for more dry hits i'm just ready for a REO. Seems so much easier to keep it from getting dry hits x.x and easier in general. Looks freaking awesome all around.

Still confused on the atomizer though. I think I'd like to get the reomizer 2 since it's what I'm able to find building tutorials on etc as opposed to the reomizer 4. But there is no LP Reomizer 2 on the website. only low profile reomizer, or reomizer 2. what do you guys mean when you say reomizer 2 LP? is it tucked away on the site somewhere?

my plan: order a REO Grand, atty, a couple of batteries orobably from light hound and one of the chargers in the $20 range. Also will pick up a repair kit maybe some o-rings. expensive purchase but seems worth it x.x

 

[Sloth Tonight]

That's the one - if you're getting an LP REO, you get the LP Reomizer.
It doesn't say RM2, but that's it...
There's no more plain "Reomizers" - just the 2, 3, 4 and 5...
I mean, there WAS an original Reomizer, but it's not on the site - that's a 2.

Fantastic. Thank you! It's happening tomorrow. Hopefully I can get the right amount of cotton in that thing as opposed to the KFL x.x

 

[rudy4653]

Fantastic. Thank you! It's happening tomorrow. Hopefully I can get the right amount of cotton in that thing as opposed to the KFL x.x

Sorry if I confused you by saying RM2.
You got the right one LP RM ! You're gonna love it.
Enjoy!! We'll be waiting for pics.

 

[Lillie Bennett]

Fantastic. Thank you! It's happening tomorrow. Hopefully I can get the right amount of cotton in that thing as opposed to the KFL x.x

It's very easy to play with the build to get it perfect. I take a few hits to tie me over and to make sure the deck is not dripping wet. Adjust, squonk and go!

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Thanks again everybody! Off to do my shopping now

Any other last tidbits of anything I'll need? I usually use 28ga kanthal. Almost out - ordered mre 28ga Kanthal a-1 AWG on eBay - not sure what the AWG means or how it differs from what I've got now, will it work?

 

[Raynman]

Not sure when the KFLs came out I did like ProTanks. I couldn't understand why anyone would need 6, 8 or more ProVari. Now I know the rest of the story I have 12 Reos.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Can anyone specifically recommend a good charger in the $20ish range? The one I saw recommended on a thread is out of stock at RTD vapors and lighthound doesn't carry it...was an xtar wp2

I'm gonna go with the AW IMR 18650 3.7v 1600mAh battery (2 or three of them) but I saw there is also a 2000mah version. will that work and last longer?

 

[Sloth Tonight]

another question - I'm into laser pointers lol so I actually have a charger for 18650 batteries already. I don't think my batteries are good enough for the REO or if this charger is good enough for REO approved batteries. the batteries I have are cheapy Tomo TR 18650 3800mah 3.7v li-ons. I'm honestly not sure who made the charger, got it off ebay I think for around $20 a long time ago. its specs are:
input: AC 100v-240v 50/60hz max 150ma
output: DC 4.2v 600mah

it actually says video/digital camera travel charger on it

will any of these work?

 

[Alamedean]

Thanks again everybody! Off to do my shopping now

Any other last tidbits of anything I'll need? I usually use 28ga kanthal. Almost out - ordered mre 28ga Kanthal a-1 AWG on eBay - not sure what the AWG means or how it differs from what I've got now, will it work?

AWG = American Wire Gauge

Yep, Kanthal A-1 AWG (insert gauge here), that's the wire you want.

Sometimes Reosmods.com site will say it is out of stock but you can call, yes call Rob at 207-490-9783 (he's in Maine) to check on availability and/or ask any questions you may have.

Congratulations!

 

[REDFISHIN]

Can anyone specifically recommend a good charger in the $20ish range? The one I saw recommended on a thread is out of stock at RTD vapors and lighthound doesn't carry it...was an xtar wp2

I'm gonna go with the AW IMR 18650 3.7v 1600mAh battery (2 or three of them) but I saw there is also a 2000mah version. will that work and last longer?

I had a lot of the same questions and they were answered in this post
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ie-reo-question-about-batteries-chargers.html

Hope it helps.
I haven't even had my REO for a week yet, but can say that it is a game changer for me.

 

[muzichead]

I was about to pull the trigger on some version of the KFL when the thought of having to go through all the setup hassles that are standard with them and decided to get a REO. Basically long story short, there is no turning back anymore. Its full vape on!!! I do have an RSST that I still have setup and sitting on the table next to me that I still vape on almost daily. It took me probably 2 months to find a setup in it that didn't produce the dry hits or leak, but I still vape it because it is a great vape overall. Does it compare to the REO / Cyclone setup, not really, but it is a great vape none the less. I did have to drill out the air hole on it to attain that vape though. I am glad I had it a month ago when my Grand went back to the spa for a little fabrication!!! Remember to post pics of your new Grand when it arrives. We LOVE pics of new Grands, or mini's, or Woodvil's, or anything REO!!!

 

[Sloth Tonight]

sweet thanks guys - and that's awesome that REOs are in Maine, I'm not too far from there so shipping shouldnt take too long

my god, I'm bogged down trying to pick a color LOL. didn't think I'd even care but when you're spending this much it's nice to be choosy I guess. copper vein looks cool, like it would blend well with the woods...

 

[olefolks]

Ray, its that dad gum dust that causes the affliction that we all have.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Hello people! I realize the KFL+ and REO are totally different beasts. Here is my question but I'll preface by saying my intention either way is to get a REO at some point soon, and my intention either way is to also get my KFL+ working well soon.

I upgraded from rebuilt PT heads to the KFL+ a few days ago. First tank was the best vape I've ever had. Since then I mostly wind up with lots of nasty tasting dry hits--not burnt, dry. No burns on the cotton at all. I think it's an airflow thing. At any rate I've so far not been able to get it right, except *maybe* the current tank, just re-did all but the coil and so far so good but too soon to tell. Anyway, unimportant.

What I want to know: it seems theoretically like the REO would be much easier than this. It seems like less gymnastics are involved in avoiding this kind of frustration. Am I right? I think I'm pretty decent at building coils (especially on the KFL vs Protank 2) and getting better with wicking but not awesome yet. But tanks are a hassle to get the airflow right, make sure everything is tight but not too tight, etc etc etc and dry hit dry hit ugh.

REOs seem like they would be much easier in this sense. Is this true in your experiences? If so I may just go ahead and order one Friday (payday) - intent so far being a REO Grand LP, and Reomizer LP. Maybe a repair kit etc. Id rather hold off for a month or so to continue enjoying my current set up - if I can, haha, and save up money so I'm not over budget during the pay period. (wouldn't be bad, just not ideal)

As you said different beasts. Even if all is perfect the vape from a side air dripper coupled with a Reo will be a totally different than what you get on a kayfun style. I do agree that its exponentially more frustration proof and easy to get a dripper or dripper + reo going. And for me the vape is superior anyway, but that's a matter of taste I guess.

My two cents with the Kayfun styles (I've had two Russians 91%)

They provide a different kind of flavor and vapor, some people swear by it, some hate it, and some just appreciate the change up (like me). There are dozens of threads with people complaining about dry hits and what not, and they're usually told that their build is off. Maybe. I've been rebuilding for a long time (my first 'rebuildable" was a modded CE2), and I was using non silica wicks back when everyone thought we were nuts in the wicking materials thread. I'm comfortable saying I know what I'm doing.

Depending on your vape pace, draw style, juice viscosity and preferred wattage these attics can be a nightmare in terms of wicking. I had to dremel the hell out of my Russian juice channels (they are now about the size of the aqua) to get it to keep up with me. I enjoy the challenge and the agitation in a weird way.

Anyway, I vote Reo

 

[Yerakon]

(...) I realize the KFL+ and REO are totally different beasts. (...)

Yep, the question might be, "bottom feeding or tank?"

These two systems are totally different, in the first juice is pushed by hand, in the second it is sucked by the capillarity of the wick (and the vacuum inside the tank).

In a system tank, the power that can be used is subject to the speed of the juice absorption from the wick;
in the BF system, it's you that commands!

That said, my preference is the BF, and in this area I consider the Reo a perfect system coupled with a good rebuildable atom