Reomizer 3 vs 4 vs 5

[zero7starz]

Morning everyone

I am in savings plan to pick up a REO, and while I'm saving I'm fine tuning my shopping list. I've got many things picked out and also own quite a few things I'd need.

One thing I can't quite nail down though is, which Reomizer to get! The website's description only gives me a small amount of insight, like single or duel coil, but I wanna know more about them!

Why would someone choose one over the other?

What sets them apart from each other?

Which ones do you own, what do you like and dislike about it, why did you pick that one, and would you pick that one again?

From my time as a vaper, similar equipment can either have no real difference, or be completely night and day. Appreciate any insight guys, thanks!

 

[BockinBboy]

RM2: Considered 'The REO standard' and sets the bar for most comparisons. Single coil only, brass construction, ceramic base, delrin drip tip - easy build and a flavour beast (RM is a bottom fed Triangle atty)

RM3: Option of either a single coil version or a dual coil version, stainless cap and base, stainless drip tip - tighter build area on dual coil, but another flavour beast (RM3 is a bottom fed A-6 atty)

RM4: Dual and single coil, airflow control, full stainless including the wider drip tip - plenty of build area, cloud beast and good flavour (RM4 is a bottom fed Atomic clone atty)

RM5: Dual coil only, airflow control, full stainless (drip tip included?) - plenty of build area, cloud beast (RM5 is bottom fed Double Cross atty)


I provided at the end of the descriptions what each 'RM' was before is modded into a bottom fed atty.

I went for the RM4 - had the most versatility, and can really adjust to just about anything (you won't get the level of flavour as the smaller RM2 or 3 though, but still really good). I also prefer the wide drip tips like what comes with the RM4.

- Bboy

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Excellent synopsis, Bboy.

I'll just add that if you like direct lung draws, the RM4 or 5 would be more to your liking. The RM2 and 3 are more natively built for mouth2lung draws.

 

[zero7starz]

RM2: Considered 'The REO standard' and sets the bar for most comparisons. Single coil only, brass construction, ceramic base, delrin drip tip - easy build and a flavour beast (RM is a bottom fed Triangle atty)

RM3: Option of either a single coil version or a dual coil version, stainless cap and base, stainless drip tip - tighter build area on dual coil, but another flavour beast (RM3 is a bottom fed A-6 atty)

RM4: Dual and single coil, airflow control, full stainless including the wider drip tip - plenty of build area, cloud beast and good flavour (RM4 is a bottom fed Atomic clone atty)

RM5: Dual coil only, airflow control, full stainless (drip tip included?) - plenty of build area, cloud beast (RM5 is bottom fed Double Cross atty)


I provided at the end of the descriptions what each 'RM' was before is modded into a bottom fed atty.

I went for the RM4 - had the most versatility, and can really adjust to just about anything (you won't get the level of flavour as the smaller RM2 or 3 though, but still really good). I also prefer the wide drip tips like what comes with the RM4.

- Bboy

Thank you!! That was exactly the reply I was looking for.

From your description, I think I would (as well) go with the RM4 for the versatility. While I have a great dripper that I love, I don't use it a whole lot so the versatility would be nice while I hammer down my prime build.

Curiously though, I understand how a rda could be single coil only. Usually due to the amount of posts on the deck. How could one be duel coil only though? Does it just have too much airflow with a single coil or what?

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

The single/dual options are referring to the air holes on the atty caps.

The RM3 has single hole (single coil) and two hole (duals) versions and the RM4 has afc which can be set to one or two holes. The RM5 always has two holes in use, no matter the afc setting.

 

[CABBA]

I started with an RM4 but was not very happy with the flavor. Got an RM2 and it's much more my speed. I'm a fan of single coils, flavor over vapor. I think the RM2 should be the standard baseline for flavor vapors. Mouth to lung style. I could see how the RM4 could be made to produce some more vapor with its dual coil capability and ability to open up the air flow. RM3 has some good reviews but I can't say. My next BF purchases will be a modded Plumeveil and hopefully a BF cyclone. I'd like to drill out my RM2 a little but it vaping too well for the time being.


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[Rmcgloth]

I have rm2 and rm3, and have drilled both out to enable lung hits. Flavor is still there in spades, to the point where I dilute juices 50/50 with unflavored. Running at .5 ohms they both give a warm vape with nice thick vapor. A very different experience from my modded quasar, which runs much cooler, and has less flavor. The afc and chamber are similar to the rm4 and five I suspect.

 

[Raynman]

If the OP goes for the RM4 remember you will need the LP Reo Grand. Also if you decide to get the RM2 it will be listed as low profile reomizer or low profile Brass reomizer if you want brass. LP Reo Grand affords you the most options as far as toppers.

 

[Spydro]

Another add FWIW...
I'm only about a month into Reos and BF atty's, so still experimenting. And I vape 24/7, so rotate a lot of jooses to avoid vapers tongue. So far I'm running .7-1.8ohm micro/cotton builds in all of my Reos. Which build is matched to what the liquid/blend I am vaping in it likes for max flavor. The stock air hole in the RM2 is a flavor machine, but it is lacking for my long lung hits. IOW more rich vapor without over cooking the joose equates to more flavor for me. Why I went back to mech's and left the VV/VW with super low sub ohm and freak builds behind. My builds are KISS again. So two of my RM2's are drilled out to 5/64" now, and that is making for a nice compromise for my long lung hits and giving me excellent flavor. Another RM2 is on it's way to me, so one of them will get drilled to 7/64" to be like my VA Cyclone is that is the best of both worlds for me... massive flavor and rich vapor from a similar size atty. If it does the same in a RM2 (which it should), all of them will probably be drilled to that size. It's not about VTF for me, it's FVT. Wide/big bore drip tips are also a bonus for my style of vaping. YMMV.

 

[CABBA]

I'm leaning towards drilling out my RM2. I just need a bit mor air. Was thinking to leave well enough alone but I think it has to be done. I'll start small (maybe 5/64") and go from there. FVT describes my order of preference too.


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[Spydro]

I'd like to try a RM4 Dual Coil, but have not found one available yet. With the right build I think it would be a flavor machine too.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I'm leaning towards drilling out my RM2. I just need a bit mor air. Was thinking to leave well enough alone but I think it has to be done. I'll start small (maybe 5/64") and go from there. FVT describes my order of preference too.


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It's a very easy atty to drill (brass), so maybe try 1/16" first and then go 5/64". You can always drill bigger, you can't drill smaller.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

I'd like to try a RM4 Dual Coil, but have not found one available yet. With the right build I think it would be a flavor machine too.

It's not bad for flavour, but you just can't beat the smaller chamber atties for flavour. You might like a RM3 with drilled holes better if you want to take a ride on the dual train. I know you're a lung hitter, so the stock holes on the RM3 would likely prove lacking.

 

[ed101z]

Before you guys start drilling out your air holes, take the Atomizers to Ace Hardware to find the drill bit size that's perfect. The drill bits are $2 a piece. That's much better than ruining your Atty. Will allow you to take smaller baby steps with the air holes.

For instance: I find the 1/16 drill bit to be to small for Microcoils; yet I find the 5/64 to be too big. I took both drill bits (1/16 & 5/64) to try and find one in between the two sizes. A #50 is perfect! It's a hair bigger than 1/16; hair smaller than 5/64. The #50 allowed one more wrap of 29g Kathal... as opposed to 5/64.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

^^^ good tip from Goldilocks, there (just joshing, ed, my man).

Alternatively, some folks use a tapered (conical) file to dial in exactly the size they want. Yep - you can file them just as easy as drilling, and the file is called a bead reamer (loooove that name).

 

[ed101z]

^^^ good tip from Goldilocks, there (just joshing, ed, my man).

Alternatively, some folks use a tapered (conical) file to dial in exactly the size they want. Yep - you can file them just as easy as drilling, and the file is called a bead reamer (loooove that name).

No problem Gramps. (just jiving. LoL)

Have not used a "bead reamer" before. Don't know if it would truly work because you can't get to the other side of the hole ...inside the top cap. You can the outside with no problem. I'm thinking by the time you got to the inside hole of the top cap... you may whittle off to much metal, and have a bigger hole than what you originally wanted. Would it work with Stainless Steel?

After seeing all those drill bits at Ace Hardware though, I personally would take the atty there, and spend some time sizing it up. Ace has the numbered bits (#49, #50, #51, #52, and etc).

 

[Spydro]

It's not bad for flavour, but you just can't beat the smaller chamber atties for flavour. You might like a RM3 with drilled holes better if you want to take a ride on the dual train. I know you're a lung hitter, so the stock holes on the RM3 would likely prove lacking.

I like the 19mm deck size and AFC of the RM4 more than the smaller RM2 & RM3... figure I can adjust builds for the flavor. I have no problem doing it and getting great flavor on single or dual 22/23mm toppers. See the RM4 as being more versatile, and without drilling it easier to pass it along later. I'm not so sure I want 22mm atty's on the Reos yet either. If I was I'd look into coverting some of mine into bf's or get on the list for those CH does.

 

[Spydro]

Before you guys start drilling out your air holes, take the Atomizers to Ace Hardware to find the drill bit size that's perfect. The drill bits are $2 a piece. That's much better than ruining your Atty. Will allow you to take smaller baby steps with the air holes.

For instance: I find the 1/16 drill bit to be to small for Microcoils; yet I find the 5/64 to be too big. I took both drill bits (1/16 & 5/64) to try and find one in between the two sizes. A #50 is perfect! It's a hair bigger than 1/16; hair smaller than 5/64. The #50 allowed one more wrap of 29g Kathal... as opposed to 5/64.

Good point, especially if you don't know what size air hole you need.

I have 5 large drill index sets packed away in storage, probably every size there is for both inch and metric up to 1" & 22/23mm, and one that is wire size bits. And I have a drill press, several machinists vises. Too much trouble to go find them for me. I knew I wanted 5/64", have a few of that size drill bits in the house that I use as a form for wrapping coils. So I simply chucked it up in a variable speed Dremel and the RM2 cap in a machinists vise, both that were also already in the house, and drilled it out. Their wall is very thin and easy to drill, and even old hands were more that steady enough to hold the Dremel perpendicular, turn it on and bore though in an instant. If I hadn't known what size I would have just used one of the metal cutting cone bits or one of the tungston carbide cone burrs in my Dremel kit to do it.

 

[CABBA]

look into coverting some of mine into bf's or get on the list for those CH does.

I ordered a BF PlumeVeil from CH. Should be interesting.


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[ed101z]

Good point, especially if you don't know what size air hole you need. ...

I'd have no clue as to what size air hole would work for me. The standard 3/64 seems to work great on the RM2 for single coils. That could change one day if I decided to go to dual coils.

I personally tested, and can confirm the Smallest to Largest (below) in case anyone might want to know.

1) 1/16 > 2) #51 > 3) #50 > 4) 5/64

...Don't know the sizes between 3/64 and 1/16... and sizes bigger than 5/64.