Request to Rob: PLEASE! make a reo button cover add-on

[Pega]

My only qualm with my mini is the button. It's just uncomfortable to me (I have seen others with the same complaint on here). I am using the the syringe plunger mod on it now, but it's not exactly aesthetic...

Could you make a disc of sorts from the same material that the Reo button is made of that could be glued to the top of the button if the user wishes to do so?

 

[redeyedancer]

My only qualm with my mini is the button. It's just uncomfortable to me (I have seen others with the same complaint on here). I am using the the syringe plunger mod on it now, but it's not exactly aesthetic...

Could you make a disc of sorts from the same material that the Reo button is made of that could be glued to the top of the button if the user wishes to do so?

Yes I will make something soon for just that purpose .I will add if your firing pin is clean and your battery is charged you really shouldn't have to apply that much pressure to fire the atty .

 

[Delilah718]

Yes I will make something soon for just that purpose .I will add if your firing pin is clean and your battery is charged you really shouldn't have to apply that much pressure to fire the atty .

YOU'RE THE BESTEST EVER!

 

[BlueWater]

Thanks, Rob! Here's one for our very own caped crusader!

 

[Delilah718]

Thanks, Rob! Here's one for our very own caped crusader!

That was so cool Jeff -- but in my mind, our caped crusader is not old - ever!

 

[unsure]

YOU'RE THE BESTEST EVER!

 

[Streptile]

I will add if your firing pin is clean and your battery is charged you really shouldn't have to apply that much pressure to fire the atty .

Yes, it took me a minute to figure this out, too. The button is just closing a circuit, so pressing it harder or softer has no impact on the amount of vapor we get. I learned that a very gentle press will fire the atomizer just as well as a hard one.

 

[FeistyAlice]

Yes, it took me a minute to figure this out, too. The button is just closing a circuit, so pressing it harder or softer has no impact on the amount of vapor we get. I learned that a very gentle press will fire the atomizer just as well as a hard one.

I'm not in any way singling out Streptile when I have my say below. I have posted the gist of this post before and I will do it again.

I get annoyed every time someone claims that "it only takes a small amount of pressure" or "gentle pressure" to fire a Metal REO and "if you have to use more than a small amount of pressure you are a 'Button Masher'."

No matter what anyone says Metal REOs are ALL different in button action. FACT!!!!

I am one of THE MAJOR REO "FAN Girls" and a major collector and user of REOs (many of them)!!!!!! I am in no way criticizing the form and function of our REOs. I am pointing out a fact that cannot be disputed unless you want to call me a liar. I am quite "technically" inclined and I've spent my life using, making, repairing, fine/small/tiny objects of varying materials; electronics, natrual, textiles, you name it I more than likely have experience.

I'm going to contradict, again, what many people believe and/or think about "not needing to mash the button." Anyone with hand/finger issues will be much more sensitive to the amount of pressure needed to make the firing pin contact the battery positive button/nipple/top. Unless you have issues it would be difficult to imagine how difficult it is for some people to even "assume the position" to even hold an object, let alone apply any pressure, with a digit, while holding it. It can range from not being able to grasps the obeject, to positioning the digit, to applying pressure or other issues. There are some people who even have issues, due to various medical conditions, with any pressure on various parts of the the hand, that causes varying nerve ending irritations that can range from uncomfortable to extremely painful. With some arthritis, even movement can produce mild to extreme pain. In my case, holding a needle, for needle pointing, with my right hand (that requires no force like sewing, for instance) became impossible over 10 years ago, due to pretty extreme arthritis in my thumb. I can grasps and use a larger object, such as a screwdriver with much less pain or discomfort.

I am not a "button masher." DH is not a "button masher." I have been using AW IMR batteries since soon after our Technonut=Lee suggested they were the BEST battery to use and before Robert "converted" over to recommending them. I did use some flat top BDLs, first, with only a very few Mini and Grands, and used magnets, exactly the same size as the AW IMR button, to make them the same configuration as the AW IMR button top. I didn't use the BDL for long as I found the self discharge, in storage, to be too fast. The AWs will hold their charge days longer, in storage, with much less self discharge.

I'm again challanging the, "only a slight press." I have over 20 metal REOs, most of them purchased new, from reosmods dot com, from the very first runs to the last; virtually every single build with any and all changes that have been made to the firing pins and buttons.

Every single Metal REO requires a diffierent amount of pressure to make full contact. More than half of our Metal REO require more than "gentle pressure." They came directly from the REO shop that way. I'm using a Blue Grand, at the moment, that will slightly fire, with minimal pressure, but needs to be depressed down more to fully fire. It has been this way from the beginning. Many more are this way, too. This is not an issue for me but it is for DH who has 76.5 year old arthritic hands/fingers. In addition, his fingers are extremely long and skinny. He used to play, quite well, Flamenco Guitar, a form that requires great skill in fine motor movement and great finger strength, but has had to basically stop playing because of his arthritis. He can fiddle a bit but not really "play" any more.

He prefers the size of the Mini but the button is an issue for him. If he was voting he would vote for the wired button in a Metal REO.

He loves the Woods, mainly because of the button, but keeps returning to the Mini, because of the size/weight, especially carrying it in scrubs pocket loaded with pen, penlight, rubber tipped stylus for his phone, phone, and glasses. His scrub tops do have two pockets so he can divide the items between the two.

I stopped by Hobby Lobby today to pick up some of the baking clay to make some "mushroom" buttons for him along with some tacky stuff, to hold them on but allow easy removal.

Peace and love, Alice

 

[davelog]

I use a single drop of Elmer's glue to hold mine on - it's strong enough to keep it from falling off and spinning unless I really shove it (I make mine teardrop shaped for easier turning), but weak enough to come off easily when I want without any damage to cap or button.

Re: mashing - when I'm using my 4.8v flat-topped batteries, I have to mash. Farther travel for the pin, I imagine.

 

[FeistyAlice]

I use a single drop of Elmer's glue to hold mine on - it's strong enough to keep it from falling off and spinning unless I really shove it (I make mine teardrop shaped for easier turning), but weak enough to come off easily when I want without any damage to cap or button.

Re: mashing - when I'm using my 4.8v flat-topped batteries, I have to mash. Farther travel for the pin, I imagine.

That's why I sized and purchased the rare earth mini-magnets to simulate the button found on button/nipple topped batteries.

Can you post a picture of your tear drop buttons. Sure would appreciate.

I have some silicone that I'l probably use to make button molds once I settle on the shape size button DH prefers. I'll try the Elmers white and the tacky stuff to compare. I, also, have some clear "museum" putty that is used to keep fragile items in place, that are easily knocked over or shift/move from environmental vibrations. I'm thinking the Elmer's may prove to be the best. Thanks for the suggestion.

Hugs, Alice

 

[davelog]

Sure, no problem!

I form mine by hand - first take a glob and push it down on a surface so it has a flat top, then stab it with an allen-wrench hex bit that's just a shade smaller than the button itself, to make a hex-shaped hole in the bottom (this gives you several points of friction on the sides of the button for the cap to 'grab', but it doesn't last forever - the clay even after firing will stretch a wee or crack under the continual stress). Then I trim and form and shape until I have a workable size and shape, then carefully remove the hex bit, peel it up from the work surface, and bake it hard. On some of them I've used clear nail polish on the top to protect the surface, but I leave the sides natural for friction against the finger when dialing it off or on.

 

[redeyedancer]

I will order some delrin rod tonight .I will make a fat button cap for all the metal mods .I will list them on the site so anyone can buy one for there older grands and mini mods

 

[unsure]

I will order some delrin rod tonight .I will make a fat button cap for all the metal mods .I will list them on the site so anyone can buy one for there older grands and mini mods

Gosh darn it...now I'll want to get a metal REO too.

 

[Streptile]

Hi Alice,

Thank you for your explanation. I just meant that, whatever the sweet spot on your particular REO button is, you can't get more vapor by pressing harder. It took me a day or so to realize this

 

[Pega]

I will order some delrin rod tonight .I will make a fat button cap for all the metal mods .I will list them on the site so anyone can buy one for there older grands and mini mods

Good stuff Rob thanks a bunch! I hope that I"ve just made you tons of cash

 

[mlinky]

THIS: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uick-thoughts-my-first-reo-2.html#post3089236 is the best button cover. Fits perfectly without any adhesive needed. I have them for all of my Minis.

 

[FeistyAlice]

Thanks Margie, I've seen you reference this before. Make note. Write down specs and make a trip to Home Depot.

Hugs, Alice

 

[Pega]

THIS: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uick-thoughts-my-first-reo-2.html#post3089236 is the best button cover. Fits perfectly without any adhesive needed. I have them for all of my Minis.

Yes this kind of thing works if you are in the US. For us international customers, we cannot find this stuff easily (or it is in different sizes).

Also, I just don't want a rubbery thing on my reo. I want something that looks like it is part of the mod...

 

[FeistyAlice]

Hi Alice,

Thank you for your explanation. I just meant that, whatever the sweet spot on your particular REO button is, you can't get more vapor by pressing harder. It took me a day or so to realize this

My exact POINT is that on some Metal REOs you do have to press down harder than on others. Example is the not so very used Blue REO Grand I am currently using. A gentle press and it barely fires; you can listen to it. (I have always had better than "average" hearing, that I have ferociously protected, all my life, (I'm a "birder" so hearing is vital for identifying birds.) beyond the range that most humans hear. Extensive testing, a couple of years ago... results.. hearing better than most {almost all} females in my age group. I have to wear ear plugs at the movies because of pain from the loud sound that most people consider OK.) Press a little harder and if fully fires. This is not limited to only one REO!!!!!

More pressure to get full firing. Anyone is welcome to come to my house and test all of my 25 Metal REOs to prove me wrong. Bring a gauge to accurately measure, although it will be very obvious without sensitive instruments. I will give you any REO in my collection if you prove me wrong. Don't expect to leave here with an "award" REO.

This is what is so annoying to me. An experience with one or a few REOs does not provide adequate data. Many know my extreme attention to detail. With many of my REOs, gentle pressure does not provide full contact!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nor full firing!!!!!!!!

I have long term, extensive experience with many REOs. Generalizing that one only needs "gentle pressure" is INCORRECT for many REOs. It is misleading to those people who have REOs that don't fire with "gentle pressure."

Granted, "gentle pressure" is subjective. But when a certain amount of pressure produces a limited amount of firing, as measured by sound of "firing" and amount of vapor and then a little more pressure produces much more sound of firing and much more vapor produced we have a somewhat verification of what I am saying.

I have upmost respect and admiration for our Modfather Robert. He does test fire every REO before it leaves his shop. But does he regularly cycle through 20+ Metal REOs, in regular use, over months of use? Do you?

Come and use my relatively new Blue Grand, I have been using this week. It has two "modes" gentle pressure=slight firing, a little more pressure full firing. FACT!!!!!!!!

I'm not really crazy and I am a trained scientist.

I will continue to challenge the belief that "only gentle pressure is required" for all metal REOs. I care enough to try to dispel this misleading information that most people consider fact.

As Robert and a few others say, "Don't mess with Alice, she has those big paddles." That is only play, with some truth. I invite you to prove me wrong. Beliefs, without proof, are stupid or innocent misconception or ignorance. Acquire 20+ metal REOs, use them, and offer an honest evaluation.

Peace and love, Alice otherwise known as "Feisty Crazy Greedy Alice"

 

[Erfmann]

The little button mods are easy to make with the polymer clay....you can get kinda stylish with them too....