Revisiting V4L...

[RachelWest]

Hi all
Several months ago I ordered a Vapor4Life Zeus kit, and launched into it as I do everything: with total frenzied abandon. The problem, of course, is that without reading any directions or the virtue of patience, things tend to...not go well. I basically burned through the smilomizers immediately, not knowing that they take a little finesse.
I recently ordered a smilomizer along with some liquids and miscellaneous tanks etc., and with the advantage of hindsight was able to properly fill and use it. Yay. It's really quite good.
That being the case, I'm interested in rekindling my relationship with V4L products. After a few searches on this forum there seems to be a lot of talk about growing V4L issues; I too have had a few in dealing with the site and orders, but I'd like to put all that aside and ask for some guidance in what V4L products are recommended favorites. Thank you in advance for any help.

 

[Susan~S]

I don't use Vapor4Life products so I can't make any recommendations.

Check out their Forum here on ECF: Vapor4Life | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[djsvapour]

What I'm going to say will be ignored (because I'm out of town), but I'll say it anyway.

You can do much better than those products for less money. Also, some of the products they sell aren't compatible with the current "best/newest" products on the market.

They make a good sales pitch and we know that some of what they sell is quite good, but that's about as much as one can say. My opinion is that it is low end tech at high prices.

I wouldn't buy from them (if they were UK) because even if the prices are not totally crazy (not an unashamed rip-off like similar 'slick' marketing operations) what they want you to believe about what they sell is quite ridiculous, frankly. There are three things that put me off buying from or recommending these "brand" stores.


1. Selling readily available equipment re-branded at extortionate cost. (They pass, it's not totally extortionate, no).
2. Just overcharging full stop. (I don't know, in English prices it is all too expensive)
3. Claiming to be the best, most innovative, most efficient products on the market. In this case they fail, and fail badly too.

So, from me, 3,500 miles away, I say NO.

 

[RachelWest]

I don't use Vapor4Life products so I can't make any recommendations.

Check out their Forum here on ECF: Vapor4Life | E-Cigarette Forum

Thank you!

 

[RachelWest]

What I'm going to say will be ignored (because I'm out of town), but I'll say it anyway.

You can do much better than those products for less money. Also, some of the products they sell aren't compatible with the current "best/newest" products on the market.

They make a good sales pitch and we know that some of what they sell is quite good, but that's about as much as one can say. My opinion is that it is low end tech at high prices.

I wouldn't buy from them (if they were UK) because even if the prices are not totally crazy (not an unashamed rip-off like similar 'slick' marketing operations) what they want you to believe about what they sell is quite ridiculous, frankly. There are three things that put me off buying from or recommending these "brand" stores.


1. Selling readily available equipment re-branded at extortionate cost. (They pass, it's not totally extortionate, no).
2. Just overcharging full stop. (I don't know, in English prices it is all too expensive)
3. Claiming to be the best, most innovative, most efficient products on the market. In this case they fail, and fail badly too.

So, from me, 3,500 miles away, I say NO.

I'm have no doubt that there's validity to your opinion, and the same can be said for most if not all companies. Business is business. But I'm not sure to what you're saying "no". I didn't ask a yes or no question; I asked for advice, specifically stating that I wished to put aside any gripes, to avoid exactly this.

 

[RachelWest]

I don't use Vapor4Life products so I can't make any recommendations.

Check out their Forum here on ECF: Vapor4Life | E-Cigarette Forum

Thank you Susan, I'm not sure how I missed that.

 

[djsvapour]

I'm have no doubt that there's validity to your opinion, and the same can be said for most if not all companies. Business is business. But I'm not sure to what you're saying "no". I didn't ask a yes or no question; I asked for advice, specifically stating that I wished to put aside any gripes, to avoid exactly this.

Business is business. That's true. It also means when a company gets mentioned on a community forum, somebody should step in and make cases for and against. I am making the case for you to walk away. Use what you have, sure and make up your own mind.

Cue; lots of very happy customers...

I appreciate I come over as brusque, but I lost $800 to 'brand' companies in the search of an e-cig that worked and was reliable...

 

[john333]

Well spoken. Please let us know how it goes.

 

[RachelWest]

Business is business. That's true. It also means when a company gets mentioned on a community forum, somebody should step in and make cases for and against. I am making the case for you to walk away. Use what you have, sure and make up your own mind.

Cue; lots of very happy customers...

I appreciate I come over as brusque, but I lost $800 to 'brand' companies in the search of an e-cig that worked and was reliable...

I totally understand your point, and I actually agree. But I thought I'd give it a go. Until I'm really angry. Haha

 

[RachelWest]

Well spoken. Please let us know how it goes.

I certainly will! Thank you.