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thormak

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I seriously need a in-dept tutorial about using ready wires.
Currently still twisting NR - Res - NR my own, l like the outcome but just takes long time and hard work. (I'm fuzzy and i like neat coils)

Everytime I use the ready wires, if I have both joint inside the ceramic, one leg light up (hot spot).
I then have to stick the Res leg directly to negative groove so that it made contact without using the NR joint.

Am I doing right? I have tons of ready made but didn't really use them after a few trials, not my liking really.
 

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I seriously need a in-dept tutorial about using ready wires.
Currently still twisting NR - Res - NR my own, l like the outcome but just takes long time and hard work. (I'm fuzzy and i like neat coils)

Everytime I use the ready wires, if I have both joint inside the ceramic, one leg light up (hot spot).
I then have to stick the Res leg directly to negative groove so that it made contact without using the NR joint.

Am I doing right? I have tons of ready made but didn't really use them after a few trials, not my liking really.

To have both joints inside ceramic is good this way you avoid the R touching the ceramic but:
When it is so you don't want the joint to touch the inner wrap of R coil!!!
If it does like in micro coil and only for one wrap you cut down the resistence as you actualy
By pass this R wrap.
This could be turn like hot spot or can even melt the join.

So I suggest after installing the wick and connecting the -+ wires to go with a tiny screw
Driver on the join and make sure they are clear from touching the inner R,and if not just prob
The outward a bit.

Here take a close look and see: both NR in atty chambers,but not touching the R wraps

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No hot spot here it's always saturated between the R wraps,and it give great warm flavor and TH.
I suspect that's becouse some of the R wraps are a bit offside to the airhole.

If you prefer less TH and more vapor then the ready made 32 cantal can be wraps very close (still the same with space between wraps)
Yet most of it will be above airhole.

Also make sure after put all together make sure the wick is T Aline above airhole and not moved
Do to instale sideway.

Ody and Ith V1 give this way better flavor and TH then micro on new Update IMO if run
Soild around 1.5 ohm.

I have some thought that
As long as we put more air stream on the coils we keep them run cooler
And in turn we avoid the last heating boost that I like for the finish of inhail that probebly
Happend better if some R wraps are not directly above air hole.
There for on the new update I end now building more wraps and higher ohm 1.6 or 1.7
As I find this give better TH and more of a counsatrate FL taste.

In general I'm more after analog like inhale with a kick in the end of the inhale,
Then a pillows soft too mellow clouds.

But I work this to preform the way I like,so it may not be as good for everyone.

I hope you find some of this information useful.
Until next post
Pa ra ra ram paraaaaaam ;) lol :laugh:
 

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To have both joints inside ceramic is good this way you avoid the R touching the ceramic but:
When it is so you don't want the joint to touch the inner wrap of R coil!!!
If it does like in micro coil and only for one wrap you cut down the resistence as you actualy
By pass this R wrap.
This could be turn like hot spot or can even melt the join.

So I suggest after installing the wick and connecting the -+ wires to go with a tiny screw
Driver on the join and make sure they are clear from touching the inner R,and if not just prob
The outward a bit.

Here take a close look and see: both NR in atty chambers,but not touching the R wraps

image.jpg
[/url]


No hot spot here it's always saturated between the R wraps,and it give great warm flavor and TH.
I suspect that's becouse some of the R wraps are a bit offside to the airhole.

If you prefer less TH and more vapor then the ready made 32 cantal can be wraps very close (still the same with space between wraps)
Yet most of it will be above airhole.

Also make sure after put all together make sure the wick is T Aline above airhole and not moved
Do to instale sideway.

Ody and Ith V1 give this way better flavor and TH then micro on new Update IMO if run
Soild around 1.5 ohm.

I have some thought that
As long as we put more air stream on the coils we keep them run cooler
And in turn we avoid the last heating boost that I like for the finish of inhail that probebly
Happend better if some R wraps are not directly above air hole.
There for on the new update I end now building more wraps and higher ohm 1.6 or 1.7
As I find this give better TH and more of a counsatrate FL taste.

In general I'm more after analog like inhale with a kick in the end of the inhale,
Then a pillows soft too mellow clouds.

But I work this to preform the way I like,so it may not be as good for everyone.

I hope you find some of this information useful.
Until next post
Pa ra ra ram paraaaaaam ;) lol :laugh:

I did coil it this way actually. But no matter how neat I put it, i always get a hot spot in one leg.
But if i coil the same way with non-ready wires, no problem at all.

I usually use a 1.5mm rod and roll the coils around to push the coils neat.
But of course, i wrap directly against the wick if i am using silica.

I'll give it a try again later, lets hope they worked fine.

This is some of my usual coils:
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It's not to clear from the picture but I think I see what may cos this.
I don't see the one more full wrap of the NR from each side.

So it maybe that the join part or the end part of the R is indeed not in full contact
With the wick.

Wrap closer the R wraps and Make the one more wrap of NR from each side then try it.
This should make sure all R wraps are in full contact with the wet wick.

Try it like so then post back,how it work for you.
 

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If you're doing a microcoil with a ready wire the last wraps on the edges should not touch the other wraps. what eliminates shorts in microcoils is the layer of oxidation on the wire. The NR wire will not have this layer and might cause problems in the last wrap. I have broken a lot of ready wires this way.

That's correct.
I don't do micro coils anymore with ready made.
If you look on the last picture I post you will see that the last full wraps
Of the NR don't touch the R anywere this is no good.
They are made only to make sure all parts of R include join will be in firm
Contact with the wet wick.

I don't like floating joins suspended in mid air.
 

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I don't really do micro coils, never liked them.
Just simple and easy coils that draw the flavor will do.

I think the coils somehow loosen when I was attaching the positive and negative NR, that's how certain coils are getting hot spots.
I view back the first Ithaka video by imeo, gotta pull and tighten the coils before I twist the NR between the positive post.
That solves for now. Let's see if the Pene v1 and Ody can be solved.
 
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